>Ludwig Wittgenstein's application to study under Bertrand Russell at Cambridge involved an interview with the great philosopher in which Wittgenstein simply handed him a piece of paper containing a single short sentence. Russell read the sentence and took him on immediately.
What did it say?
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My last name--Wittgenstein--is fun to say!
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What do you mean? It's easy to pronounce and it sounds rather normal.
>And but so
loot vig vit gun shtein
You are Bertrand Russel
What?
Fuck off, American retard.
I have your daughter held hostage, if my application isn't accepted then she will meet an indescribably bad end; think very carefully about your next move.
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No, you're not.
Ludwig is not preaching bounced pronounced "loot vig". Wittgenstein is not pronounced "vit gun shtein"
Nice to meet you American retard.
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>Russell read the sentence and took him on immediately.
If true, this is the height of intellectual sophistry.
Most of the propositions and questions to be found in philosophical works are not false but nonsensical.
remember that this is Russell we're talking about
his posturing could make a French psychoanalyst blush
I think Ludwig asked Bertrand if he wasn't useless to philosophy, 'cause if he was he would go study aeronautical engineering or something
How do you think it's pronounced then?
actually, I recant what I've said here
just because I have a personal distaste for Russell doesn't make him a complete pseud
I think English philosophers have a reputation, earned or otherwise, of being pedants. And Russell is supposedly the biggest pseud of them all.
*pedant
You are right. They do. Russell's statements on the 'Uncaused Cause' posited by Thomas Aquinas are illustrative of his sophistry.
I haven't read the Principia Mathematica. Mathematicians don't seem to like it, though. That's telling.
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Whoa...I didn't know Wittgenstein was BASED
Just as it’s spelt. Lud-wig Wit-gen-stain
That's not even how it's spelt.
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What if believing in the teapot makes your life a lot easier?
I knew Russell was a retard after reading his History of Western Philosophy, but I had thought Luddy was one of the good ones. I read PI, etc. diary and Monk's biography. Only later did I realize he was the ultimate retard (e.g. his opinions on Gödel's work). Deleuze was right.
"I'm going to say the N word."
Imagine having this low reading comprehension
>great philosopher
>I want to suck your cock and finger your anus at the same time, and I won't tell your wife.
There. That's one sentence.
The Roman script serves badly for pronunciation, try the International Phonetic Alphabet.
"by few years all philosophy will have been refuted by Rene Guenon (not yet pbuh)"
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art.
kek, I would accept any student who did this.
Exactly.
bravo
>greatest philosopher of the 20th century
>a retard
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It must have been "My name is Ludwig Wittgenstein." There is no way it was something else.
"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
I agree. Nobody managed to 'move the chain' in philosophy to the extent which L.W. did except for Kant.
>A few days before the invasion of Poland, Hitler personally granted Mischling status to the Wittgenstein siblings. In 1939 there were 2,100 applications for this, and Hitler granted only 12
'Woah he's so famous and smart guys! definitely not a Jew!!"
Hitler was a kike coward.
"Im jewish to, let me into jew globalist elite club"
>Hitler was a kike
Wew....
Did you know Hitler went to school with Wittgenstein? If anything it shows that he was given preferential treatment because of their history.
here they are apparently this is their school photo
ray monk seems to think that young hitler would've hated young wittgenstein -- precocious, idiosyncratic, too smart for his own good, etc. i think he's right
You think an 8 year old boy can be not only "precocious" but also perceptively precocious by other 8 year old boys?
He spared his life. I think that's enough to say he didn't hate him.
This picture makes me feel weird. Been staring at it for a while.
if you're reciting semantic categories to yourself while everybody else is playing "Ringel, Ringel, Reihe," it's safe to assume that they'll consider you to be a bit different
also: teacher favoritism is perceptible even to very young children
and the first name?
Apparently that's not Witt; he was in a lower grade
You forgot Hegel, Nietzsche, Marx, Feuerbach
Hitler's IQ is genius tier too
>Nietzsche
continental
>Hegel
agreed
>Marx
in a manner of speaking, yes
>Feuerbach
sure, okay; i don't want to tendentiously compare Kant and Feuerbach as if one could be considered "better" than the other. i apologize for my glaring omissions
they're all continental you dolt
Why is Wittgenstein is liked on Yea Forums? Can someone give me a ti;dr on his philosophy?
Watched one of those cringe pop philosophy videos on youtube and it basically said he believed language creates images in your head so go learn a lot of vocabulary so you can create clearer images and therefore think and understand the world clearer or whatever. Is that it?
Why would Ludwig Wittgenstein, member of an insanely rich family, go to the same school as Adolf Hitler?
Dunno but they did and that is not really disputed. What is disputed is whether they ever met or was in the same photograph.
there is a theory on his wiki page by some guy that he may of planted the seed of hitlers hatred for jews in his youth
>I haven't read the Principia Mathematica. Mathematicians don't seem to like it, though. That's telling.
Mathematicians dislike it, whether form the Poincaré, Hilbert or Bourbaki schools. But the work is more Whitehead's than Russell's. The former had started the project before Russel tagged among, and Russel contributions are embarrassing (ahem, axiom of reducibility).
Honestly Russel is a decent pick for the biggest pseud ever. He, Locke and Stuart Mill are responsible for the reputation of angloids in philosophy.
By doing what? Why would Hitler interact with the younger grades?
Wittgenstein told Hitler he would never have a bulldozer, then he jerked off thinking of numbers.
He's an interesting figure because he allegedly "solved" philosophy by showing that there are no truly philosophical problems. Unfortunately years later he came back and published a new work which threw all that out of the window. He's popular with both analytics and continentals for this reason
Prove it. He was never tested and his performance at school was slightly below average.
Wasn’t this exact thread posted the other day? I’ve noticed 5 threads like this today, is it all one person?
Show me in the archive.
>Honestly Russel is a decent pick for the biggest pseud ever.
Can someone explain to me why this is exactly? I don't want a general answer. His refutations of the argument from contingency were a tad dishonest, but he never struck me as being "the biggest pseud ever."
Certainly I think it is fair to say that he didn't deserve his position at Cambridge as much as some others might; he was, after all, a lord - and whilst there are plenty of very smart Lords and plenty of very stupid ones - I don't think that's the point. The point is that he occupied a privileged position in society from birth, as an accident of his birth, and this meant he was more likely to receive special treatment. We cannot say that he was thick, but we must wonder if he was simply an above average individual who was catapulted into intellectual stardom as a result of his personal desires in conjunction with his lordship.
Are you American? Universities in Europe (at least in Northern Europe) are less nepotist than the rest of the world. Today especially no amount of money will get you into Cambridge - some billionaires have actually donated sums of up to 50 million to Cambridge and the universities still rejected their children.
Russell definitely didn't get his position because he was a member of the nobility. He was one of the best students in the mathematics department; philosophy aside he was one of the best logician alive.
The reason people don't like Russell is that he was not only associated with logical positivism (which is hated by most philosophers) but he also managed to become well known enough (through his popular books) to promote it to the general public.
He made a lot of derisive comments about great philosophers while demonstrating a very superficial understanding of them, dismissed most of the philosophical traditions before him without having extenstively studied them and pretended to have found the one true way to do philosophy, which turned out to be underwhelming autistry.
To be fair he's not all that bad, but his immense cocksureness and the general hype around him combined with his philosphical shortsightedness and the fact he's the poster boy for a lot of the pitfalls of the analytical tradition make him easy to hate. He's a bit like Derrida in this respect.
Add that his actual body of original work is not that great (he's not even the main contributor to his most famous work, principia mathematica), that he was unapologetically liberal in his politics and a literal cuck in his personal life and you understand why current-day Yea Forums despises him.
Wittgenstein came from a rich family and was probably notable before he was taken in by Russel, so not sure how much the sentence mattered.
>Are you American?
No.
>Universities in Europe (at least in Northern Europe) are less nepotist than the rest of the world.
Lol, it's "nepotistic" - and no. And this was especially not the case when Russell was around. They gave a place to Prince Charles, for fuck's sake.
>today especially no amount of money will get you into Cambridge
I personally know a girl who did poorly in all her A levels and GCSEs, but her father paid for a new library and she was made an offer by one of the lesser known colleges on that basis. You are hopelessly naive and out of touch when it comes to higher education in the UK. They are less obvious about it than they are in America, but you still see it going on all the time if you know the right people.
At any rate, if you had taken the time to properly read my post, you would know that I wasn't claiming that Russell was stupid or that he was offered the position solely on the basis of his Lordship. I was stating that the Lordship was probably still a contributing factor and that those with Lordships are more likely to have their desires met in academic life - even if they are only above average. Russell never struck me as being extraordinary. I can see that Wittgenstein was extraordinary from what little I have read of him - but Russell? No. I do not believe so. This leads me to believe that the praise and accolades heaped on Russell are (at least in part) undeserved. The fact that I am now being told mathematicians do not like his primary work on Mathematics strengthens this view of mine somewhat.
>Russell never struck me as being extraordinary. I can see that Wittgenstein was extraordinary from what little I have read of him - but Russell? No. I do not believe so. This leads me to believe that the praise and accolades heaped on Russell are (at least in part) undeserved.
Nobody cares who strikes you as "extraordinary" from the "little" you have read of them you goddamn imbecile. That's not how you decide whether somebody is worthy of praise or not, let alone whether he deserves a position at Cambridge.
>Nobody cares who strikes you as "extraordinary" from the "little" you have read of them you goddamn imbecile.
I disagree completely. This is a forum where people come to share their substantiated opinions. And it seems I am not in the minority on this one ( ).
I would also add that most people are perfectly capable of forming a reasoned opinion on someone after having read some of their work. You are taking the term "little" a little too literally.
>imbecile!
Why are you upset?
Any good introduction books about later Wittgenstein and his philosophical investigations?
>muh Cambridge
meaningless
I do not think it's meaningless, but it is relatively less meaningful considering he was a Lord and his primary work on Mathematics is disliked by actual Mathematicians.
>I disagree completely. This is a forum where people come to share their substantiated opinions. And it seems I am not in the minority on this one ( ).
>I would also add that most people are perfectly capable of forming a reasoned opinion on someone after having read some of their work. You are taking the term "little" a little too literally.
The point is that you cannot deem how much praise one deserves, let alone whether his position at a university is deserved based on whether he "strucks" you as "extraordinary". Can't you see how fucking retarded you sound? What does extraordinary even supposed to mean, what matters is whether he was fucking qualified to do his job. You aren't giving us any arguments, you just throw buzzwords around.
Disliked by mathematicians according to what source
>he "strucks" you as "extraordinary"
It's "strikes" (holy shit). And you can if whether or not that striking has occurred in the process of you reading some of his work (it is implicit that it has). After reading his work and finding it in some sense wanting, you can infer that his position might have been given to him - in part, not in full - on the basis of his Lordship rather than any genuinely superlative contributions to the field.
>It's "strikes" (holy shit). And you can if whether or not
Kek
>And you can if whether or not that striking has occurred in the process of you reading some of his work (it is implicit that it has). After reading his work and finding it in some sense wanting, you can infer that his position might have been given to him - in part, not in full - on the basis of his Lordship rather than any genuinely superlative contributions to the field.
You haven't given any arguments as to why his work might be overrated you fucking shithead. And you admitted that you deemed Wittgenstein to be more "extraordinary" despite having read very little of him, so we have pretty much established that you only care about retarded buzzwords instead of the actual merits of the authors.
>You haven't given any arguments as to why his work might be overrated you fucking shithead.
Because my original post was centred around asking why another user thought he was overrated, you dense fuck.
>despite having read very little of him
See my earlier point, Mr. Literal. Are you retarded?
The idea isn't to learn vocabulary to better describe or comprehend reality. Language was created to function as a communication tool and not as a descriptor of "actual reality" and thus thinking through language will create illusions in your head. these illusions will later on lead to seeming philosophical problems. when the illusions of language are disregarded, reality reveals itself.
So... Buddhism?
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>Because my original post was centred around asking why another user thought he was overrated, you dense fuck.
Doesn't change the fact that it is ridiculous to claim that he may not deserved his position at Kembridge just because he didn't struck you as "extraordinary", which has fuck to do with whether he was qualified or not.
>See my earlier point, Mr. Literal. Are you retarded?.
You said that "I can see that Wittgenstein was extraordinary from what little I have read of him". What the fuck would be a metaphorical interpretation of this passage? You explicitly said that you havent read much of him, you weasily cuck.
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Why is being continental a leeway to disregarding their apparent influence?
To see if he would be of use to Philosophy, Ludwig wrote an essay on this subject, as suggested by Russell. The professor, reading the first sentence, immediately concluded he was indeed of worth. At least that's what Russell states in an interview I watched some time ago.
>Lol, it's "nepotistic" - and no
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>I personally know a girl who did poorly in all her A levels and GCSEs, but her father paid for a new library and she was made an offer by one of the lesser known colleges on that basis.
Yeah my mate Dave also got in by sucking off the college headmaster.
Not even gonna bother reading the rest of your drivel.