>On Sept 19, Lewis and Tolkien had a legendary conversation with another colleague and future Inkling, Hugo Dyson. They spoke late into the night, arguing about faith and theology and history. When the topic turned to “myth,” Lewis evidently made the comment that myths were “lies breathed through silver.”
>While you or I may respond with a counter-argument, Tolkien went home and wrote 148 lines of heroic couplet from the Myth-Lover (Philomythus) to the Myth-Hater (Misomythus). The poem came to be known as “Mythopoiea” (Myth-Maker), and is an apology for the value of myths to tell the deepest truths of human experience.
How can Lewis say that? I thought he was a Christian. Does he make an exception for the Christian myths?
Kevin Rodriguez
i dont care. Did he write anything about Atlantis?
Isaac Jones
you're too low IQ for this board, fuck off
Ayden Perez
just answer his question you faggot, no one hear but you enjoys splitting hairs over the term "allegory"
Ryder Lee
>did Tolkien ever write anything about Atlantis?
It's funny you should say that. Tolkien did work on an ambitious science fiction story involving time travel which had Atlantis as a central theme/location. Look up 'The Notion Club Papers' to find out more. Verlyn Flieger has a great chapter all about it in her 'Interrupted Music: The Making of Tolkien's Mythology' book.
Also, Tolkien had crazy Atlantis dreams (nightmares?)
>How can Lewis say that? I thought he was a Christian.
He hadn't converted yet at that point.
>In the Fall of 1931, the theist C.S. Lewis was moving steadily toward a conversion to Christianity.
Aaron Walker
thank you m8. The dreams are particularly interesting.
Lincoln Harris
Lewis was Anglican, while Tolkein was Catholic. For all the similarities, they are really quite different perspectives.
Lucas Brooks
why bring up terminology you don't even understand? fuck off
Jaxon Bell
Its an analogue of Atlantis not an analogy
Jace Smith
>have a dream about drowning, interpret it as Atlantis-themed
What a drama queen. He'd get along with Jordan Peterson.
John Peterson
Lewis was a proto-redditor.
Levi Foster
>While you or I may respond with a counter-argument, Tolkien went home and wrote 148 lines of heroic couplet from the Myth-Lover (Philomythus) to the Myth-Hater (Misomythus). Based Tolkien How could Lewis ever recover
Chase Rivera
answer his question
Lincoln Jenkins
He died before Tolkien, these two events must be related.
Camden Baker
Uh, well, maybe Tolkien's celebrated stories are nothing but lies breathed through FUCKING FINNISH MYTHOLOGY. Ever thought about that before you deify your anglo swindler?
Elijah Clark
>breathed through silver What the fuck does that even mean? If he weren't a famous writer people would acknowledge this as god damn nonsense.
Lincoln Price
He means those lies are given undue legitimacy through their use by poets and philosophers.
Still a bad argument given the genealogy of myths prior to their artistic/rethorical use.
Ryan Thompson
What the hell does Homer have to do with silver?
Jace Rivera
No one takes the Finnish criticism seriously. Enough with the meme.
Matthew Cooper
It's a precious metal. Think golden plated toilet.
Christian Bailey
Nobody cares about your mythology, finnigger, snow-türk, Jannizair in denial. Tolkien took your retard scrambled pseudo-stories and made them into something of literary value you should thank him every day.
Evan Bennett
>too brainlet to understand the basest of symbology Silver is symbolically the purest and wholesomest metal. Look It up. Something Something colloidal silver something something kills bacteria etc. Every symbology agrees on this. If You breath a lie (unwholesome! Boooo!) through silver, you "clean" it. It becomes a "lie" said for worthy reasons and to spread an healthy message. It is obviously a brainlet opinion still Because myths aren't lies, myths are myths.
Eli Cox
>those responsible for our mythology knew germ theory fucking retard
Angel Carter
Didn't Numenor get blown the fuck up? Sounds more like an allegory to Crete if you ask me.
John Cox
So? A gold toilet has just as much to do with Homer as silver, and you don't breath through toilets regardless of what they're made of. Am I the butt of some joke here? Are you guys providing nonsense to explain nonsense or something and affecting that it is coherent or intuitive?
Brandon Harris
>You will NEVER read The Lost Road
Tolkien also had dreams of Faery, which are likely the source of his descriptions of the shores of Aman and especially Tol Eressea.
