I don't think litRPGs and /tg/ are that related. Seems more like a Yea Forums thing.
Carter Brooks
>Also, should /tg/ be deleted? /tg/ should have been deleted In 2015. Nu /tg/ is quite litteraly unrecognizable and only a very slight improvement over reddit.
Aaron Lee
Which was the best medium to experience Baulder's Gate tho?
Josiah Reyes
It this a joke? Obviously yes, a multitude. It really depends on what you mean by "isekai" and what specifically you are looking for. There are Western isekai galore in self-published works, web novels, and litRPGs. This has also been discussed previously, so you can look a Yea Forums archive.
Henry Hernandez
Picked up Michael Moorcock's 'The Dancers at the End of Time' at an op shop the other day. Never read any of his stuff before, is it an okay place to start?
Brandon Adams
Certainly not the novels.
Luke Taylor
Read Mark Lawrence
Christian Jenkins
Read Stephen Baxter.
Jace Evans
book that has an unlikely truce with the antagonist with quips and banter
Benjamin Smith
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Isaiah Wood
Anyone read the latest Stephen King novel? Opinions?
Evan Foster
>/tg/ doesn't want them shitting up their board either
That seems like a hypocritical answer considering what you're posting.
Owen Smith
It's not all I picked up, but it's definitely something I'm in the mood for now
Anthony Miller
Porn exists.
Landon Davis
And? It doesn't even need to be on screen, it wasn't exactly detailed when Croaker finally got some. I just want to see that kind of relationship play out again
Isaiah Gomez
Zdzislaw Beksinski, Polish painter.
Jose Brooks
Who gives a fuck what are you going to jerk off to. This is not the place to discuss your fap folder.
If I knew it was going to get anons like you crawling out of the woodwork I wouldn't have done it. You people are the reason we can't have nice things.
Maybe I'm autistic but I found all those scenes boring. I liked when the tension was there, I liked when he was in love with her and when little bits of her humanity would shine through from behind the monster she's been for centuries. That was cool. But when they actually consummated it and especially when she becomes TOO humanized later in the story, for various reasons I won't detail here because I know some fucking idiot is reading this spoiler even though he hasn't read the books because he has OCD, yes I mean you, stop doing this to yourself I felt it really diminished things.
But again I might just be autistic. I have a real problem in general when stories "humanize" things too much. It's not that I want everyone to be inhuman, it's that bumping into Soulcatcher in an Arby's wearing sweatpants is a little too humanizing, it takes the majesty out of the character - the fact that they are centuries old should make them at least a little genuinely inhuman.
It's similar to how I feel like the Horus Heresy books ruin the 40k universe by making you go "oh, okay, everyone's just 'some guy' then. Even the Emperor is basically just 'some guy'." I can't quite explain this, but prior to reading the Horus Heresy stuff, my mind would always try to see the characters from that era as BOTH legendary figures AND real figures, meaning, the real people were somehow also legendary even when they were alive, and it's just that we've (meaning, people in the 41st century) lost the ability to produce or comprehend such greatness directly, we're living in its shadow. That seems to fit the gothic setting. But then the HH books come along and it turns out, at the end of the day, even if you're a demigod you're still basically just a guy. And this is for a natural enough reason of course, namely that the author can't reasonably be expected to write an "incomprehensible" character. He can only write a comprehensible character and put him in power armor.
Asher Butler
>Who gives a fuck what are you going to jerk off to. This is not the place to discuss your fap folder. >He says while posting elf lewds Just admit that you aren't well read enough to have any recommendations
Michael Martinez
To continue this thought and relate the HH / Black Company things more explicitly, that's exactly what I loved about the Black Company books, the fact that these people are so powerful that they're beyond mortal comprehension, and yet for practical reasons, you still have to stand next to them and talk to them because no matter "above mundane matters" they are, they still need to get shit done and give orders.
I always remember the part where Soulcatcher teams up with the Company to trap one of the enemy generals, and Croaker is watching the trap with Soulcatcher and his mind wanders to "I wonder if the Taken get lonely?" and Soulcatcher replies out loud, "Sometimes." It gave me a chill because of how perfectly it captured that juxtaposition. For me, when (really major spoilers for later books here) Soulcatcher comes back and acts tsundere it basically popped all that built-up tension like a balloon.
Joshua Jackson
Any complaints shall be unheeded. Don't look at the spoilers if they bother you. >published the same year, 1983, with the same concept as the Dungeons & Dragons tv series I remember watching the latter as a child. Clearly this is the EDGY GRIMDARK version.
When you talk about a woman's sexual habits, Karl, it's not exactly nice to make her sound like a public utility
"So if you try thinking of Doria as a person, instead of acommunity facility, maybe you won't make such an ass of yourself again."
"Greetings, little girl, would you like a piece of candy?"
What you're asking is how long it will take for fifteen men to rape Andy-Andy and Doria."A couple of hours, probably. Why all the interest?" Visibly, Ahira forced himself to relax. "Then we wait for a couple of hours."
"Those bastards raped two ladies I care about. Two of my friends, dammit.
Walter's face whitened. "He's raping an eleven-year-old girl?" Chak rubbed at the back of his neck. "Every night. And she spends her days whimpering, and begging for some healing draughts to stanch her bleeding; Orhmyst isn't gentle."
some eleven-year-old girl I've never even laid eyes on....Walter could have tolerated knowing that somewhere, some little girl was being mistreated, even raped.
Her people let her get caught by slavers, raped.
He couldn't bear to look closely at the little girl. She was only about three.
Ellegon carefully shook a pair of twelve-year-olds from his head, then craned his long neck so that Karl could step onto it...a pair of firm young breasts pressed against his back, while powerful thighs scissored his waist...far more conscious of her young body than was comfortable...As I understand it, a bit of repressed sexuality between father and daughter is normal, whether the daughter is adopted or not.... Adopted daughter or not, a husband really shouldn't cheat on a wife
Brody Foster
> I liked when the tension was there, I liked when he was in love with her and when little bits of her humanity would shine through from behind the monster she's been for centuries. That was cool. Agreed, I think that's closer to what I am looking for, it was nice that Croaker got a happily ever after of sorts, but the build up was more exciting, especially when you realize it's not all in his head and the desire is mutual. The afterward wasn't as important, I don't want some kind of nonsense where a guy beats a female villain and bones her, I want the build up to that relationship while they are enemies of some kind.
Nolan Sullivan
it's legitimate to a point but when she switched to being the chronicler for me there was enough insight into what genuinely set her apart even de-powered.
Gabriel Powell
Different user. City of Stairs seems like it may be worthwhile to read sometime. Thanks.
Elijah Bell
you still have the old kali type goddess I can't remember the name of buried beneath the ground to give some kind of extreme contrast
Brandon Sanchez
you might like malazan then because something it does imo get right is the otherness of the various ascendants, immortals and outright gods.
A few seconds after you posted this I already had it downloaded. After looking at it since then, I've concluded that it isn't something I'd want to read. The concept of reviving people from the past in the future is fine, but I don't like the voice or the prose. Your opinion may well differ and you shouldn't take the above as to mean you shouldn't look at it yourself.
Xavier Martin
Read a few amazon reviews and got the opposite idea. Seems like a slow, boring, meandering, metaphor filled snooze fest instead of a mystery novel. THe meiville rec seemed interesting though
Hunter Lopez
I only read the first few pages, so I may well be wrong. I haven't liked what I've read of Miéville.
Mason Watson
I just got done reading a crime book by the same author (Mean Business on North Ganson Street) and didn't mind the voice or prose although I can definitely see why someone would.
I was mainly curious about this book because it's not as talked about as his other works; and was mainly wondering if it was just a dud among his collection. I think I'll give it a shot as all his other books are westerns and I'm not in that kind of mood.
Anthony Cruz
What webnovel are you guys currently reading
Angel Wood
None. Every one that I've looked at has been utter trash at the very best.
Bentley Rodriguez
...
Ian Watson
What a typical webnovel hating retard 3 posts for one
No one ought to read any unless they are Chinese. It's already trash and made worse by a trash translation.
Isaac Turner
Reverend Insanity >>>>>>>>> Three Body Problem >the virgin China strong, communism onry solrution to aliens >the chad teaching your slaves Maoism so you can work them to death faster
You're just mad no one wants to read your Hugo award winning dinosaur turds anymore and is turning to the free market alternatives.
Xavier Sanders
I really wish you were meme'ing rather than being sincere.
Liam Morales
Confirmed for never having read it. RI is like the bible, it's the underpinning of all literature and culture. People read war and peace, but not RI, and that's a shame since they're picking the lesser of the two.
Jordan Reed
This is your brain on autism.
Julian Thomas
RI seems like it blows ass, other stuff is way better
Xavier Evans
>You're just mad no one wants to read your Hugo award winning dinosaur turds anymore and is turning to the free market alternatives. That is literally what we are all here to read and discuss. It's just you two Chinese furfags that keep derailing the conversation with your self published trash and fanfiction
posts concerning chinkshit, litrpg and whatever other non-books ought to fuck off somewhere else
Chase Perez
What’s your fav slice of life webnovel
Justin Torres
>I HAVE THE POWAHHH >FEEL-MAN Also, self publishing and webnovels are two different things you fucking brainlet cunt.
Aiden Green
Any good books about angel mythology? I want to learn more about them and their history.
Noah Roberts
I agree. Webnovels are far worse.
Josiah Rivera
Faith hunter did a book series where I learned about the wheels with eyes and other stuff. Not Jane Yellowrock nor the Plant woman series.
Jose Barnes
>first my ability to write disappeared >then my interest in writing disappeared >now I've stopped reading sf entirely
am I – dare I say it – becoming a normie?
Grayson Diaz
you posted that here so no
Daniel Watson
I'm only going to get worse user. I'm just going to get more and more and more boring, and a year from now I'll be looking back at that time I had dreams and think "what a load of rubbish that was. I'm glad I grew up."
I hate that man, though he doesn't exist yet. He's the man who's going to kill me, steal my friends and loved ones and wear my corpse like a suit
Asher Ross
Are there any sci-fi novels with interstellar travel ONLY at relativistic speeds? I want to read something about interstellar civilizations in a universe with the same laws of relativity as ours.
fuck the "good place to start" reading order autism and just read it.
Jayden Cook
to be fair user, faster than light travel hasn't been ruled out. I'm pretty sure wormholes are still allowed by currently accepted models, and QM hasn't ruled it out conclusively... provided of course there's an interpretation of imaginary mass that makes any rational sense
Hunter Campbell
The Magazine of Science Fiction & Fantasy Sep/Oct 2019 - 70th annniversary issue.
BLAH The White Cat's Divorce - Kelly Link Immortality obsessed billionaire and children and their shenanigans.
Erase, Erase, Erase - Elizabeth Bear The protagonist wants to erase their existence because life is too painful and can they ever be forgiven for what they've done?
Ghost Ships - Michael Swanwick I like a lot of Swanwick's short stories but I also dislike a lot of them, so I never know what to expect. I don't have anything to say about this other than I didn't like it and it's a contemporary "ghost story" set in the US.
MEH Kabul - Michael Moorcock Ragtag military company wanders aimlessly in a peri-apocalytpic Afghanistan.
Madness Afoot - Amanda Hollander A Cinderella parody. Protagonist is the sister of the Prince.
Homecoming - Gardner Dozois Dozois is a truly great editor and anthologist. As an author, not so much for me. This is the final story he wrote before he died. It's quite possible that I simply didn't understand the story at all, especially the ending. I have no idea what that was about. I could guess, but that's all it'd be.
OK American Gold Mine - Paolo Bacigalupi Disappointed by comparison to his other short stories, almost of which I really enjoy. It takes place at Not-Fox News with the protagonist being the top female anchor there. Basically about how fearmongering and outrage culture is destroying the country and media is the accelerant.
Little Inn On the Jianghu - Y.M. Pang A Wuxia parody. Rather silly. Protagonist is an innkeeper whose inn destroyed by "heroes" and decides to do something about it.
Under The Hill - Maureen McHugh This college has a secret, but if you would rather remain ignorant then you'll forever be. Some of the students are from the Seelie Court.
The Light on Eldoreth - Nick Wolven I've enjoyed every Wolven story in F&SF, but this one was merely okay. It's entirely a marriage negotiation that takes place on Eldoreth, a planet barely within the galaxy, and so far in the future that they've become so "enlightened" that they are oblivious to their amorality.
The Wrong Badger EnglandLand amusement park in the US has a reckoning with Woke Capitalism. A rival attacks them in the name of social justice to increase their market share.
GOOD Booksavr - Ken Liu Booksavr is an app that adjusts whatever you are reading to maximize your enjoyment based on what you define as "problematic content". Author reactions on the self-publishing web serial site are mixed. Are the characters not diverse enough for you? There's a setting for that. Does the author mishandle consent? No problem. No one should ever be offended by what they read. Protagonist is an author against Booksavr. The story is mostly is "user reactions" on his site. The ending is a real stinger. Rather amusing.
OTHER Three Score and Ten - Robert Silverberg A truly great author reminisces about 70 years of S&SF.
Landon Martinez
It's not possible to have a unified interstellar civilization at relativistic speeds or really anything that called be a civilization at all. It'd all one way generation ships that would most likely never have contact with any other humans every again.
Luke Young
fair enough
Caleb Walker
Just finished roadside picnic, pretty good
James Butler
revelation space
Oliver Wright
I read THE FREEZE-FRAME REVOLUTION by Peter Watts and liked it. I found out afterward it is part of a 4-story cycle so I have to read those now too.
>Ragtag military company wanders aimlessly in a peri-apocalytpic Afghanistan. Any books for this feel?
Matthew Gutierrez
When did we get a Yea Forumstant taking up residence and recommending people youtube songs for certain situations?
Samuel Morris
I've linked two recently, including one in this thread. I don't use Yea Forums at all though.
John Lewis
I've actually pondered this question and I've come to the conclusion that the only way an interstellar civilization at lightspeed would work would be with AI god kings that treated human civilizations the same way that humans treat livestock or something. Just a thought.
Andrew Parker
Searching for posts that contain ‘roadside picnic’. 803 results found. on archived.moe for Yea Forums anyway.
Time to actually look at it. It says it's a new translation, so probably the most recent one. Skipping the Le Guin forward for now. I've looked at it now. It's not something I want to read.
Moving on: >THE FREEZE-FRAME REVOLUTION Yeah, nah. Too unrelatable for my tastes among other issues, much more so than The Forever War.
>EVERWORLD Yeah, that's going to be a hard pass. Just no.
Samuel Peterson
I'm always surprised to find out that Robert Silverberg is still alive. It feels like every few years I think about him, assume he must have been dead for a while, then look him up and find out he's just finished a new anthology or something. Guy must be pushing a hundred by now. I should finally get around to trying Majipoor; I ignored it back when I binged his stuff because I was only interested in straight scifi at the time.
Jesus, he must have started young. I remember reading how he was a house writer for one of the pulp rags back in the early fifties
Henry Peterson
Yeah, he wrote as Gerald Vance, as did others. One that comes to mind is The Judas Valley published in 1956. So that would when he was 21, as he was born in 1935. He won the Hugo for Most Promising New Author in 1956 as well. Looks like his first published work was in 1955 at 20. May be actually sooner.
He talks about buying the first issue when he was 14, 70 years ago.
Isaac Gray
I don't know if how different it was back then, but he also states that several people had been published already in F&SF in their teenage years and he felt he was lagging behind at being published at 20+.
Austin Cooper
Last thing. He says he was sending in work to be published when he was 16.
David Lewis
>Webnovels You autists made me finally google this shit. By the looks of it they all seem to be thinly veiled weeb smut stories. Do you lot really spend your time on this?
Brody Murphy
That and much worse. Our depravity and decadence knows no limit. We are Yea Forums.
Jaxson Reyes
Keep pondering. Your take is complete hogwash.
Easton Thomas
I completely agree but I didn't really want to tell him that because then I might have gotten another reply.
Ian Gomez
Three Hearts and Three Lions Thomas Covenant The Wizard Knight
Samuel Morales
Any good present tense recommendations? I'm thinking of writing in third person present objective but the only present tense book I've read is City of Shit.
Easton Gonzalez
Agreed.
Joseph Reyes
>that's exactly what I loved about the Black Company books, the fact that these people are so powerful that they're beyond mortal comprehension, and yet for practical reasons, you still have to stand next to them and talk to them because no matter "above mundane matters" they are, they still need to get shit done and give orders. These are also some of the greater scenes in Malazan, where exactly stuff like that happens.
Eli Hughes
The Fifth Head of Cerberus The Soldier series. His short stories. Peace. Long Sun.
Logan Ross
I really did not like Black Company. I went in expecting something low fantasy that would read like historical fiction but instead got gay edgy wizards and really bad prose. I might have liked it when I was 14. Only got as far as when they reach the burned out raped village.
Christian Gutierrez
I really didn't like it either.
Luke Baker
I want to read about knights being knightly, doing knightly things. What can you recommend /sffg/?
>I went in expecting something low fantasy that would read like historical fiction Yeah, you aren't gonna get that. It is high fantasy that follows a mercenary army doing mercenary things in places where you expect mercenaries (eg. burnt and raped villages).
Nolan Butler
a cool user typed this a few threads ago and I'm going to repost it
Pre-LOTR fantasy novels worth reading:
Lilith (George MacDonald) The Well at the World's End (William Morris) The Wallet of Kai Lung (Ernest Bramah) The Golem (Gustav Meyrink) Jurgen, A Comedy of Justice (James Branch Cabell) A Voyage to Arcturus (David Lindsay) The Worm Ouroboros (E. R. Eddison) The King of Elfland's Daughter (Lord Dunsany) Lud In the Mist (Hope Mirrlees) The Circus of Dr. Lao (Charles G. Finney) Descent Into Hell (Charles Williams) The Once and Future King (T. H. White) Fictions (Jorge Luis Borges) Titus Groan (Mervyn Peake) The Dying Earth (Jack Vance) The Cloven Viscount (Italo Calvino) The Broken Sword (Poul Anderson)
Is there any books that act likes a b movie from the 50s?
Andrew Adams
You guys should totally read this book. Out of pity. I mean, isn't it sad that someone took the time out of their lives to write it and no one even reads it?
I found it while ago and was going to shill it here but decided to wait and see if anyone would read it first. It seems to be a chinese inspired action book. I'd read it myself, but the protagonist is female.... Anyway, you should totally read it, though. amazon.com/Informal-Art-War-Ken-Lim-ebook/dp/B07WYHBHXR/
I actually might later. It really doesn't look like a bad book. It's not litrpg at least.
>Ken is a speculative fiction writer and a life-long reader of fantasy. When he's not crafting stories or pontificating on how to write them, Ken geeks out on Lego, action figs, movies and TV.
Yea im not gonna read a book written by a LEGO fag
C'mon, give the guy a break! Who doesn't like legos? It's his first book (probably).
Gabriel Ward
>The concept of reviving people from the past in the future is fine If you're interested, Past Master and Viriconium both explore that topic (in very different ways).
Camden Jackson
Just wanted to say that this is a good contribution and I appreciate it.
Anthony Peterson
>thieves versus the empire
I’m so fucking TIRED of this SHITTY plot.
Samuel White
It has thieves? I guess you got farther into it than me.
Aiden Sullivan
You really make it seem like you're the author based on your responses.
Blake Thomas
I wish I had the discipline the write. Anyway, I changed my mind. I just found the author's goodreads page and he gave 5 stars to Robin Hobbs. This together with the female protag thing probably means he's a filthy redditor or something.
You should probably adjust your author self-promotion detector. Not everyone who shills unread books is the author. I just felt sorry for the guy. It's too bad, had he written a book with a male protagonist I'd probably have finished reading it before finding out he is a pleb.
Zachary Perry
>Ekman managed a rough croak of a laugh. “Moons, that hurt.” I'm out
Christian Perez
Literally just The Knight by Gene Wolfe The Wizard (book 2) is a little shittier because of its lame first half (Jotunland was basically pointless,) but The Knight was pretty much perfect It's portal fantasy until it isn't (but still sort of is,) but it's very much Arthurian knight material either way I think I'll go reread it soon
Tyler Cruz
I just recommended it in another post but The Knight was what I went to after BotNS, and it's a pretty good next step Similar themes of there being a higher world that can be achieved when humanity does the right shit, etc. That's a lot of Wolfe's stuff Fifth Head is probably another good one because it illuminates some things that he included in BotNS, like cloning I wouldn't suggest Peace next, you gotta really like Wolfe to get into Peace That book does not hold your hand at all and if you're not familiar with shit like the history of alchemy you're going to understand it even less than his other books
Carson Thompson
Why would you feel sorry for him in particular as opposed to every other writer in a similar position?
I didn't say you were the author. I said you make it seem like it. As in, you clearly aren't the author but the way you are posting makes it seem like you are pretending not to be the author. It's a fine distinction.
Gavin Wright
Even worse than that is that you are one of those idiots who uses "shill" to mean "any sort of promotion, recommendation, or putting forth of something for others" rather than it what it actually means.
I don't want to bother with Kindle Unlimited and it doesn't seem to be available otherwise, so I'll go with a different novel from them called Starfall Knight. Not worth reading at all. Not because it seems bad, but because it seems so utterly mediocre in a way that would neither please who enjoy reading something well-written nor those who enjoy complete trash.
Jaxson Murphy
Thanks. I'm just doing whatever I feel like doing at the moment. It's just a slapdash assortment of stuff that's all over the place.
Isaiah Wood
>so I'll go with a different novel from them I thought it was only written by one person?
Jeremiah Powell
The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern
Lincoln Myers
>edgy wizards and really bad prose Black Company and also the Dresden Files read like kids books
Brody Rodriguez
That is a very comfy list.
Luke Fisher
It’s literally in the summary
Jonathan Adams
>open rape of preteen cunny is kids book material Please tell me these kids book you read as a youth?
Asher Morris
My mistake for not using "him", rather than the singular they.
Christian Murphy
Probably only chuuni manga, if that.
Cooper Morris
>singular they Don't be that kind of retard.
Jaxson Young
>singular they. Lol, thank God I am not a native English speaker.
Nolan Hill
>singular they >singular Don't be that kind of retard.
Austin Walker
>My mistake for not using "him" How do you know them is male identifying?
Ryan Rogers
It's in the dictionaries now. Keep up.
Because of the usage of "he".
Juan Hughes
>Because of the usage of "he". Where? Does them call themself that?
Nathan Hernandez
>It's in the dictionaries now. And? Why does that mean I have to like this ideological abomination of the English language?
Parker Rodriguez
Sorry, I don't wish to engage with your unproductive identity politics any further.
Benjamin Morgan
Oh no it's a tranny.
Dominic Parker
>Sorry, I don't wish to engage with your unproductive identity politics any further. What is identity politics about you choosing to gender a potentially non-male identifying person as "he"? You know that this exact behavior is hurting people, if you were female-identifying and I refered to you as "he", surely that would be offensive to you...
Blake Morgan
>You know that this exact behavior is hurting people Good, those kind of "people" need to be hurt.
Lol, as if the "them" garbage isn't identify politics...
Jaxon Jenkins
It's been in common use since the 1300s in English.
Jason Nelson
Was it as common as blacks then?
David Brooks
>It's been in common use No, at some time in point it might have been common use but the usage now is purely for political reasons, not because someone decided that old English sounds better.
I didn't start this whole thing, the person suddenly switching pronouns for somebody he didn't knew did...
Jason Jones
Lol, truly clown world.
Liam Perez
>One Roman soldier who was a nigger means that London being 50% British is normal Thanks guardian!
Oliver Harris
I knew it. It did get the BBC treatment. No wonder the ratings are in the toilet. Also: "Since you’re here… … we have a small favour to ask. As the climate crisis escalates, The Guardian is standing alongside those taking part in this week’s global climate strike. And in the run-up to a major UN climate summit on 23 September, we are joining forces with more than 250 news organisations to increase climate coverage across the global media. The climate emergency is the defining issue of our times, and we are committed to being truthful, resolute and undeterred in pursuing our journalism." What is wrong with Guardian in particular and those bucktoothed, inbred island little shits in general? They used to be so cool.
You know announcing reports is against the rules... Right?
Adam Jenkins
after finding out the the one remaining straight character in homestuck is canonically trans, I have to ask: why is it that so many decent authors suck at making gay MCs believable?
Aside from hot lesbians who are clearly just fap bait which we're conditioned to accept, so many of them just seem so forced. the only gay MC I've ever really been able to buy was Ender, and Card ended up giving him a horrifically dysfunctional, unbelievable and borderline pedophillic marriage because he was uncomfortable with how much of his own pedarestry seeped through in the first book and he needed deniability
Henry Jenkins
Maybe the problem isn't everyone else, but rather you.
Ryder Powell
Why is it that when I'm reading a book and rape unzips it's pants around a girl I get granite? The book I'm currently reading just mentions that the girl used to be raped in the compound before she agreed to be a sister wife, and I had to go sit in the toilet before anyone could see me.
Andrew Sullivan
Because it arouses you.
John Carter
Seems to me that the more a book stuffs in endorsements of its quality the more they want you to actually believe it's going to be worthwhile to read even though they know it isn't.
Samuel Parker
Ender works because he's a relatively un-selfaware projection of the author, i.e. gayness is actually a sincere reflection of actual homosexuality.
The others seem fake because they are, they're just cutouts used to signal conformity to social norms.
Josiah Barnes
Seems interesting, thanks for the suggestion friend.
I haven't read anything by him, is he the guy that goes into autistic detail when it comes to siege warfare? Not a complaint by the way, that might be something I'd enjoy.
I was too low IQ to understand Book of the New Sun (though I still enjoyed it). Is this more accessible than that or less?
Oliver Roberts
What about LGBT characters written by LGBT authors?
Carter Miller
What about them?
Nathaniel Brooks
>The others seem fake because they are, they're just cutouts used to signal conformity to social norms.
>why is it that so many decent authors suck at making gay MCs believable?
So the answer is simply because they aren't as such?
Carter Stewart
>why is it that so many decent authors suck at making gay MCs believable? theres a lot of reasons why a straight couple just makes more sense to a story its the most inoffensive obviously. its easier to write. possibility of future children characters. you have both a female and a male for people to relate to or cling to. really the only reason you'd actively choose to write a gay couple is to make a heavy handed statement, which is a hack thing to do.
Jaxson Murphy
to be fair, the only authors Ive read who i know were lgbt were Card and Charlie Jane Anders and the latter was better as an sff columnist than she ever was an author.
The thing is Rebecca Sugar is great at writing LGBT characters, but unless that movie of hers changed things, all of her best straight romances were left entirely subtextual
Jacob Scott
confession: I dont care for gene wolfe. I dont like the format that everything is spoken of in past tense, like in the journal or memory of the protagonist. it gives whats going on this dull, slow paced tone of "so this happened. and then this happened. and then i did a thing. and i dont remember this, but i think it was a thing".
Grayson Lee
>its easier to write For someone who is heterosexual, sure.
>possibility of future children characters In science-fiction and fantasy this isn't really an issue. There aren't any such limitations.
>you have both a female and a male for people to relate to or cling to What if the person can't relate to either?
>really the only reason you'd actively choose to write a gay couple is to make a heavy handed statement, which is a hack thing to do. So a gay person ought to never write what they know?
>really the only reason you'd actively choose to write an interracial couple is to make a heavy handed statement, which is a hack thing to do.
>really the only reason you'd actively choose to write an Jewish couple is to make a heavy handed statement, which is a hack thing to do.
>really the only reason you'd actively choose to write a non-white protagonist is to make a heavy handed statement, which is a hack thing to do.
Elijah Smith
>So a gay person ought to never write what they know? No one really cares to know how many gerbils can go up his ass so it's best to not even write as a fag. Same goes for all that butthurt green text.
Colton Adams
You may want to consider your lack of empathy. There's no doubt that it stunts your ability to understand and enjoy much literature and limits your reading options.
Benjamin Bennett
Empathy? You're the one who is ignoring the plight of all those poor gerbils tranny.
Ayden Cook
user, I don't think he's worth bothering with. Someone like him doesn't recognize other humans as sentient beings. He doesn't have the capacity to learn the error of his ways
Jacob Taylor
You've also certainly listened to Stephen Lynch's song Gerbil too many times and took it far too seriously and literally.
Josiah Watson
I thought there was only one passive aggressive tranny user.
miles cameron and christian cameron are the same guy. as a reenactor he's pretty autistic in general in a mostly good way.
Ryan Adams
Cameron is really good with details that lets you know he knows the stuff in the world without being autistic about it
Joseph Fisher
I was hoping not to start another series and just read standalone books but now I'm really curious about The Red Knight. OK, I might as well read it and then decide if I want to continue on with the rest.
Xavier Morris
I'm reading Pandora's Star and good lord it's not bad but I'm semi-forcing myself to keep going. It's another 300 pages until I get to the 'good' part FlyingLightMountain but idk if i'll make it.
Colton Kelly
What the fuck happened at the end? So Able goes in a cave? And dives down a well? And finds a magic sword and a coat of mail? Then a horde of Elves start appearing and celebrating some giant satanic dragon so Abel draws the sword which summons the souls of all great legendary knights and fucking kills them all and flys after the Dragon on the back of a Yahweh Griffin and kills it before being taken by a Valkyrie and brought to Skai? What the fuck? I've read Wolfe before but this ending really messed me up. Was the Dragon Setr? Is Setr Satan? Or Jesus? Why does the actual Arch-Angel Michael appear? I haven't read the Wizard, but I have a feeling that none of this will be explained. Good book though.
What are some books with non-medieval elves? Contemporary civilization or future elves. And no, I don't mean humans are current or futuristic but the elves are still medieval.
Levi Sullivan
Does anyone know of any good collections of Jules Verne? Looking to read some of his popular stories again.
Jaxon Wood
Where is my cultivation chat group updates ~
Ayden Young
You haven't realized that you were talking to yourself the entire time?
Blake Phillips
Patiently waiting for uncrowned in Thursday.
Matthew Collins
reading The Blade Itself at the moment. I like it a lot, the characters are genuinely interesting and layered, and the whole "fantasy political intrigue" shtick not being overplayed. any thoughts on the other two books?
Austin Phillips
Heavens~! Is that true?
Hudson Richardson
Aryan chads battling Lovecraftian monsters is most based and redpilled.
Here's a magazine list of got I from here: Mostly from here anyway, the torrents and mega. Mostly not the newer F&SF though. pastebin.com/DcvbpdVY
Sebastian Thompson
Nevermind, it's all from there. This is before I integrated it into my main calibre library.
Gavin Adams
libgen is such a mess.
Oliver Sanders
If you like the first book you will also like the rest of the trilogy.
William Martinez
Your vagina is such a mess.
Owen Diaz
You'll probably want Jules Verne - The Complete Works to have it all in a single work.
Elijah Wright
I think literally all you do is post lewds and think everyone is grateful for them.
Christian Torres
/sffg/, I need either an incredible amount of passion or an incredible amount of terror if I'm going to get anything written.
Instead I'm trying to figure out how cook a dish with no cherries in it that has no cherries in it.
I crave death
Hunter Bell
4 more days, lads.
David Rivera
> I need either an incredible amount of passion or an incredible amount of terror if I'm going to get anything written. Apparently you aren't going to have the former and you wouldn't want the latter.
>how cook a dish with no cherries in it that has no cherries in it. I think you have mistyped.
>I crave death Melodrama.
Caleb Diaz
Yes, 4 more days until you spam your in progress reading of it and then spam until the next book is out.
Benjamin Gray
>Is this more accessible than that or less? Both, but mostly more. The stuff that happens in the fantasy setting is very straightforward. The hints at what happened in the real world are frustratingly weird. But the main story is the fantasy one, and the real thing is just to give it more emotional weight anyhow. Overall, probably a bit easier than BotNS.
The Wizard explains literally all of that, actually. You just have to sit through some boring ass shit in Jotunland first. Oh, and Michael appears because Gene Wolfe wrote it. You should know by this point about the multiple worlds thing. What do you think Wolfe puts above the Valfather? His own God, obviously, and even the angels who serve him are above the Valfather.
Angel White
I'm going to write more spoilers because it's on my mind. I think the whole thing with Kulili is a bit shit, in retrospect. It's by far the most epic scene in the book, and the imagery is great, but she creates a problem. In an optimistic atheist view, the higher worlds would be created by the lower ones. Kulili creates life on the world above her own because she aspires to goodness despite her nature as a dragon, which tracks with that. But it's a Wolfe novel; it's obviously not atheist. If God created the dragons and the devil and man each on their own world, why would he have left one empty? The lore is really cool, except for that one point. Maybe I'm just misremembering and it makes more sense than I think, though.
Blake Price
The first three Red Knight books are purely knights doing knightly things.
Christian Stewart
I meant "how to cook a dish that tastes like cherries that has no cherries in it" but let's just go with a typo
for the record, the answer is to make sweet and sour pork with an almond satay sauce
Evan Torres
I think you're misremembering. I'll go ahead and spoiler it.
The worlds had both "indigenous" and "fallen" inhabitants. For instance, the Skai pantheon were angels who voluntarily descended from the level above to fight the Giants but became corrupted somehow (they're still good) and couldn't go back. The Jotun were Giants who fled from Skai into Mythgarthr. The indigenous inhabitants of Mythgarthr were faery spirits like Mani the cat. Humans were "raised up from animals" rather than being truly indigenous to Mythgarthr.
I don't think the books address where Satan (the most low god) came from. Presumably he has fallen all the way from the top. Anyway, Kulili was unrelated to the Dragons/demons the same way that humans are unrelated to either the Giants or Faery. She's something else entirely. And Wolfe is very vague about her nature, although she doesn't seem to be evil the way the dragons are.
Connor Davis
just finished the night land. it was great, i hadn't enjoyed a book that much in a long time. found it pretty weird when i went to read the reviews at goodreads and the two main complaints were
>the author doesn't explore the world enough >it's mainly just a love story, not fantasy
it was LITERALLY explained how the world got the way it was and the book was as much a love story as a travel log of roaming that world. i just don't get it. what were these people expecting? i doubt someone new to the fantasy genre or eldritch horrors would jump straight to this book. did they really think we were going to get a bio on every creature type and watcher like this is some dnd book?
Christian Butler
>"mine own baby slave" - literal quote from book Great setting though, I can't think of anything remotely like it. There's a new version written in a more modern way that everyone seems to love, but I've never read it. It's frankly amazing that, as stilted and weird the narration and dialogue is, the romance story actually worked, and seamlessly fit with the rest of the "nightmare travelogue" theme.
Juan Robinson
yeah the modern version is the one i read. it was the only one available to pirate to be honest, the guy who did the rewrite did a good job imo. i completely forgot it was supposed to be modern, until i read a couple of anachronistic sounding lines. one of them was about how the women of the 18th century were much more modest and demure than the women of the future. though who knows, maybe there was something to that effect in the original.
i'll probably read the original next time, i'm esl so it would probably be helpful that i've read a modernized version first. but yes, i agree, the romance worked great and it was fairly emotional. and i really enjoyed the descriptions of the world. i'm not much of a prose guy (couldn't stand reading 100 pages of gormenghast) but i have to admit this had me completely hooked and drawn in.
Lucas Davis
The original is just free: gutenberg.org/ebooks/10662 Unfortunately neither of us has read both versions, so I really can't say which is better, but I really liked the original and it's extremely unique writing style, so I have no idea how much of that translated into the rewrite. I don't know how much trouble you'd have understanding it, I found it easy but extremely weird.
Blake Perry
yeah, i found this after i went to look up maps of the night land. shame i never thought of it sooner. there was a link in the wiki page of all places. i tried reading a few sections after i found this, found it understandable and enjoyable but very slow going and two or three times per page i had to pause to try to make sense of something or reread a sentence to "interpret" the grammar
Ryan Anderson
Once a thread (if that) isn't 'spam'. If you don't like it please just overlook it. Not difficult.
Dylan Davis
anything that could be considered samurai lit? could be fantasy samurai fighting orcs and shit, or cyberpunk or whatever, as long as its samurai
i would have said a line like "Gonji's Deathwind - The Godzilla of Sword & Sorcery?" is 100% a shill a while ago, but then again there are actual pseuds and boomers who think talking like that is clever
that said, sending free items to people in order to generate amazon reviews is a huge racket. it's not technically illegal since you never 'technically' ask for a review in return for an item, you just ask people (off amazon of course) "do you like fantasy books? i'll gift you one for free, i'd love to hear your thoughts on it, here's 25 bucks, go to amazon and order it on me". that is to say, a person is free to take your shit and not leave a review. but in reality like 90% of professional reviewers do leave a review and it's really easy for the marketing agency to exclude the ones who don't.
t. literal marketer he was just asking, T. C.
Hunter Williams
I really enjoyed the Red Mars series. What are some other good near-future books about terraforming?
Cooper Roberts
I really think you might be the author
Kevin Moore
Yes I am the author. You found me out.
Ayden Murphy
you could've just said "yeah its a good book" no need to be pissy
Luke Martin
okay that's better. what were your inspirations and why should we read read your book?
Aiden Anderson
I need the money for coke and prostitutes. So buy it and every other book I've written, faggot.
i need that money for the same things unfortunately
Blake Jackson
>the modern version is what I read Well maybe that's why you liked it. I was absolutely dreaded by the original and it's endless uneventful travel-blog. I even read it at a time when I was binging through pretty much every Lovecraft/Poe/old horror story. But Nightland was just too much
it's korean but i'm willing to accept suggestions for chinese novels. do you have any in mind?
Isaac Collins
>it's korean Oh really? I stand corrected. Fuck off gookshitter.
Ayden Green
Last of the Amazons
Jacob Kelly
Watch Code Geass, read the Traitor Baru Comorant and read Tigana.
John Moore
Any way you could like post the MoFaSF stuff into a mega/dropbox? I don’t want my ISP to murder me for torrenting
Adam Wright
Why are they so skinny, and use folds and fluffs to make themselves look thicker? Aren't there any thicc high test Koreans? Not fat blobs, birthing hips and thighs.
Joshua Long
>sort stuff out, then upload them for me >I want things free and hassle free >you take the risk for me Kys
William Smith
I asked; I didn’t demand. I would’ve been cool with a no.
Justin Kelly
Not them, you won't get in trouble for old stuff that the MAFIAA aren't watching. They only care abour movies and then get you in trouble by complaining to your isp.
Chase Brooks
I've had so much backlog to get through I've never really read any scifi written this century.
Is the Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction the Astounding of today?
Cooper Long
No.
Zachary Brooks
Where do I go to read all the assumably equality hire/tranny scifi of the now for cheap?
Juan Lewis
When are we getting remnant book 2? I want shortstack used goods stuffed with dick.
John Walker
Pretty sure that's the only shit the traditional publishers publish these days.
Wyatt Miller
I've heard that about the Hugo's but genuinely I have no idea about contemporary SciFi. Can anyone key me in on modern Short stories and things I want to at least experience some.
Hudson Foster
I finished Hero of Ages by Brandon Sanderson the other day. I'm kind of still reeling over it. I'm not sure I've ever read or watched anything that actually concludes a trilogy as well as it did, even with it leaving stuff open for the giant metafiction over the rest of his books. Also read Alloy of Law today, and it was bizarre to see these characters I love referred to as historical legends.
Hunter Moore
Cradle soon! Audio and ebook!
Tight pussy book 2 next month! Audio and ebook!
James Campbell
As linked, there are mega links and elsewhere, such as libgen and IRC. Torrenting isn't required at all. F&SF is something I'm subscribed so I'm not going to provide my personal issues for a variety of reasons.
A list is here:
Carson Richardson
sorry for the late reply, i went to bed. maybe i will, eventually seems fun, are there any betrayals and fallings out in this novel? also any fantastical elements, besides the obvious ahistoricity? good tip, something like code geass is exactly what i had in mind, specifically the relationship between suzaku and lelouche, but i want a novel right now. there's pristin kyla but the reality of thicc gooks is much more disappointing than the fantasy of thicc gooks
Jack Rodriguez
Schlock fantasy shelf - read through everything on here, what now?
I probably should download all the monthly books I haven't bothered to look at.
>Three Hearts and Three Lions Not quite what I want to read.
>The Wizard Knight >The Fifth Head of Cerberus I have yet to see a Gene Wolfe that I want to read.
>Past Master No.
>Viriconium May read later.
Nah
starts with slavery, duck rape, and menstruation. More importantly, I don't like the prose.
>Code Geass One of the most overrated anime of all time.
>Traitor Baru Comorant May read later
>Tigana I've looked at various novels by this Guy Gavriel Kay but still have yet to want to read any.
Alexander James
No offense meant but I almost threw up looking at that image.
Christian Diaz
oh, sorry i was a bit out of it from my nap and i didn't notice your book suggestions and just read the "code geass" part. thank you, i just downloaded both
Mason Ramirez
Thanks, unfortunately I can't seem to find physical copies of any Verne anthologies. They're all ebooks.
Alexander Ortiz
Code Geass is nothing like that vid but watch it anyway. It's a hell of a ride (be warned though that S2 is shit until the last few episodes.)
Christopher Kelly
That user already has watched it.
Isaiah Mitchell
i've seen it and enjoyed it a lot. i remember i read something recently about them putting out a new season or movie but i'm afraid to watch it now that i'm out of my teens. i'm afraid it might be too cringe for me nowadays.
Leo Perez
There's a ton of spin-off material and similar.
Cooper Bailey
> i'm afraid it might be too cringe for me nowadays. S1 still holds up. S2 is a mess due to the fact it moved to daytime TV due to its popularity so became more kid friendly and basically got a story reset.
Nolan Hall
Post it on leddit to get infinite internet points
Jaxon Long
NEW
James Barnes
All midgets look the same, their fucked up growth hormone regulation makes them have similarly shaped heads
>she becomes TOO humanized later in the story, for various reasons I won't detail here because I know some fucking idiot is reading this spoiler even though he hasn't read the books because he has OCD, yes I mean you, stop doing this to yourself That was me, thank you man