Claims history does not move backwards

fuck bitches and be the least evil leader in ww2.

Thats a surface level summurization of the original US founders. Yes they did take from roman aesthetic and ethos, but it has a lot of more modern anglo derived checks and balances that were not roman in the slightest.

What of Islamic revolutions and Pol Pot? What is it in particular that is irreversible about our contemporaneity that spoils attempts at antiquation, besides the obvious, science and technology?

unironically based, made the trains run on time and made some cool propaganda. Probably killed less people than FDR and Churchill and certainly killed less than the autismo bros Hitler and Stalin.

were their uniforms as cool as nazis' though? thats the real question

Unfortunately no not even close.
The only ones who had a uniform game even kinda close were the BUF

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lmao is this benito?
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It's a new iteration, you honor the traditions and institutions of the past that have worked and adapt them for the current age. There is no contradiction or flaw there.

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Nah, modern day proletariat are sweatshop workers in Asia

True

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>tfw America has spent the past 200+ years LARPing as Rome
>tfw now the American Republic is starting to crack apart just like the Roman Republic did

It's not exactly the same, but it's not completely different, either. You could look at Trump as a kind of blend of Sulla and the Gracchi brothers.

I've read many times that it has actually more parallels with the decline of the Ottoman Empire, but I haven't studied it personally so I can't say.

The reason I pick Rome is that Rome is always what America has striven to be. It's what the Founders wrote the Constitution to do: emulate Rome. The Ottomans never had a governing structure like the US has had. America has always wanted to be Rome, except without the fall of the republic.

The founders didn't write the Constitution. They framed it. They got it from the Iroquois Confederacy. That's who inspired the government, not "Rome" as we know it. That's all I gotta say about that.

Oh and the Republic did fall. We are absolutely not that anymore. And we are absolutely not going by the original Constitution. It's all bullshit.

Integralism

lol

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It's the truth. There was nothing ridiculous or evil about fascism until Hitler and his pagan autism and blood and soil doctrines destroyed the movement for the foreseeable future.

>America itself is heavily inspired by the Roman Republic
yep
>walk around Washington DC
>every massive government building is neo-classical
>so mixed race it is not even funny
>everybody wearing badges for the entry keys of the government building they work at which also shows rank
>fucking washington monument is an obelisk
>the entire washington mall area could be turned into a Circus Maximus within the day and it would be perfect with the monuments in the middle and abe on one end across from the awe inspiring Congress building
>go to baseball game called "nationals" (like wtf i thought these people hated nazis?)
>military parade inside with jet flying above; general military pride
>game is not the purpose itself but an entire 5 hour event for all the populance there to socialize, eat food and entertainment
How is the US not the modern iteration of the Roman empire?

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>The founders didn't write the Constitution. They framed it. They got it from the Iroquois Confederacy.
Complete nonsense.

Histort cant repeat

Is german autism the greatest evil on this planet?

Is that Joe Rogan

>>Is surrounded by democracies modelled after Antiquity
>>America itself is heavily inspired by the Roman Republic
completely wrong. not only is it just larping but those cases are also the least democratic. older democracies of genuine tradition function much better.

I was told he was bad because he was an ebil dictator and Fascist.

The only thing Hitler did wrong was having mercy on the eternal Anglo.

Yes

another key parallel between america and Rome is pragmatism. we just take stuff that works from various cultures and avoid getting caught up too much in ideology or philosophy, as opposed to the Greeks.

take religion for example. yeah people are Christian, but only in a pragmatic way. nobody is going to live in poverty or go on a pilgrimage.

I think it has some material benefits, but clearly pragmatism doesn't have the same longevity or unity as more austere ideals.

That even a fascist can realise that history can't move backwards should tell you how much of a truism that is. The American ethos and culture are not Roman, democracies that work kind of like the republics of the antiquity are still massively different from their prototypes.
History is not just the political system, it encompasses the totality of a society. Observe art, how all movements that desired a return to the "good old days" never actually succeeded. The renaissance and (neo)classicism are NOT the antiquity, neo-baroque is not baroque, neo-avantgarde is not avantgarde. Look how much of a failure the classicist project was when implemented in a totalitarian way - Nazi Germany. Nazi art carries an air of grotesque and you'd never mistake it for an actual classical artwork.
Mussolini was also certainly aware of futurism, the first fully modernist movement in culture, a harbinger of many more irreversible changes in our understanding of the world, our possibilities and the role within it. If you actually delved deeply into older culture, you'd find frustratingly many elements that are foreign to us and that we barely comprehend today.

>Romans probably would've been disgusted by American moralism for example.
Depends which Roman's in which period. From the founding of the city to the fall of the empire was almost 1000 years.

It doesn't matter what you think is nonsense. It's the truth.

Plutodemocracy is my favorite word used by fascists.

Nice post.

Probably Ironic because Mussolini had grand ambitions and being an imperialist in literally recreating the Roman empire.

Possibly, but it's easily topped by Slavic retardation.

>tfw hitler killed off Mussolini's best buddy because he wasn't going along with the MUH GERMANIC PRIDE larp

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Hands down

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>benito "i suck american cock" Juarez
>anti-imperalist

Nah he was another anti-catholic indio

not to mention he is the only Italian leader that actually destroy the mafia. he was loyal to his principles, i guess that's the reason degenerates hate him because he won't give up his ideal for anything.

Room temperature IQ detected.

This is PRECISELY why it's always a bad fucking idea to allow the existence of a united Germany. Europeans used to know this, but they seem to have forgotten it. There was a brief, shining moment at the end of World War II when we might have prevented the scourge of a united Germany from ever arising again, but Churchill and the rest of the Allies completely cocked that up. Every single time the Germans unify they fuck things up for the rest of the West.

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Does circular (or double helix) model move 'backwards' just because it rotates?

>Hitler and his pagan autism
Hitler was quite secular. It was Himmler who was the pagan autist.

you angoids were saying the same thing about the french before Napoleon III got his shit pushed in

>Hitler was quite secular
So, his speeches were... secular talk... amirite? ;D

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Based Hugo Boss

Mussolini committed fewer war crimes in WWII than the French. Italy unironically did nothing wrong.

The proletariat class in America are rural workers and inner-city factory workers

The strawman below are middle class millennfucks

Yes, they were a form of progressivist faith.

Do they have money that makes money?
No.
So they're proletarians.
At least you people should TRY to be fucking coherent.

>So they're proletarians.
>so it's the 19th century and 80% of the population are serfs
By that definition then 95% of the American population are proletariat and that definition is meaningless

not really most boomers have a house and a 401k

This is the EXACT argument I always use against you fucking Marxists and you always answer with some retardation about how If you don't make money simply by having money you're a proletarian regardless of where you live, your race, your culture, any other factor.
OWN YOUR BULLSHIT.

the millenial thats living with his parents and doesnt get poon is more unhappy than the mexican working the fields.
its humiliating.

>history does not move backwards
nor does it progress. you fucking clown, you complete dipshit. you total cock. you're stuck looking back to the past as you're helplessly flung forward through time, unable to make sense of ceaseless catastrophe. you see the rubble as majestic shells of what was former glory, and in that moment you lie to yourself and to history itself. you doom yourself to repetition, which itself is an illusion you can neither escape from nor accept. you pissboy

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>walter benjamin
>calling someone else a liar
o i am laffin

If you think Western democracy and Greek democracy are similar in any way except name then you need to learn some history. Liberalism has always been the final stage of West European Christianity anyway, its model of government likely would have appeared regardless of the ancients.

Eh, only Protestant Christianity, really. The Catholics have always had an awkward relationship with Liberalism.

>be the least evil leader in ww2.
actually that would be Emperor Hirohito

The man who raped a city?

They fucking ran.
Own your bullshit brainlets, kek

Mussolini was comically incompetent and so was his state. Fascist Italy failed at pretty much everything

stop gaslighting

This is coming from a person who likely watches hasan piker

Single-handedly.

It’s their death drive, I think.
The Finns are autistic and they’re nice enough.

>tfw larper trad dorks killed off any chance of futurism being the official art movement of fascist Italy

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suck a fat dong, kike

Mussolini is not Yea Forums
Yea Forums is stupid

>the Iro-who Confederacy
>not the Enlightenment (like Vico from Italy) and Freemasonry

OP here, what I'm referencing is a claim Mussolini makes in the Doctrine of Fascism. While not entirely Yea Forums, it's still viable. I would post this on /Pol/ but it's filled with nothing but retards.

>Implying Mussolini ever wrote shit
It was Gentile all along

>Implying Mussolini ever wrote shit
Mussolini wrote for various socialist newspapers.

>It was Gentile all along
Anyone know any way of reading Gentile online? I can't find any PDFs and all books are either untranslated or cost 70 dollars to buy.

Exactly this, they share the faults and excesses common to all republics, they don’t need to be similar for this to be the case

Lol what the fuck

Colonel klink said that?

:3

Mussolini contradicts himself a lot, the same guy that said "Race? It is a feeling, not a reality" also constantly whines about race a lot. He's simply just not that very consistent.

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Obama was the populist, not trump