What should I read after Mere Christianity? Looking for stuff that isn’t too hard or esoteric, trying to work my way up. Pls no Aquinas yet. Thinking about reading Augustine’s Confessions, would that be a good choice?
Christianity reading
Brandon Phillips
Easton Garcia
>Posts generic statue in pursuit of appearing traditional
>Reads CS Lewis
Yeah, I'm thinking you should go read a book on math or something. Christianity definitely isn't going to do your already low IQ any good.
David Sanders
the god delusion
James Cook
FPBP
SPBP
Based thread
OP, why are you falling for the Christian meme? Are you that impressionable?
Adrian Collins
On the Soul and the Resurrection - Gregory
Two Hundred Chapters on Theology
On the Unity of Christ
On the Incarnation by Athanasius
On the Holy Spirit by Basil
Eli Sullivan
Just take the Orthodox pill OP.
The Sayings of the Desert Fathers
The Way of a Pilgrim
Vladimir Lossky The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church
The Philokalia
That order works fine.
Samuel Bailey
Pieta is absolutely based. Just because your mind had its capacity to absorb symbols numbed doesn't mean the symbol is invalid, just that you're too much out there to understand anything that lies within.
Materialist atheists are absolutely dumb when they think religion will go away with the advancement of science. The transcendental is a constant, and while we may develop technology and further our knowledge of the natural world, the transcendental is and always will be the same, and if all religions came to die today, in less than a century entire new religions would be born - - even amidst an entirely well-educated populace.
Sadly I haven't yet acquainted myself to the traditional and classical texts. I haven't read Mere Christianity either. However, I recommend "Psyche as Sacrament", by John P Dourley. It's a study on religion and Christianity as a natural drive of the human mind. It is based on the psychology of Jung and the theology of Paul Tillich. It's not entirely in agreement with catholicism, and hugely in disagreement with protestantism, but I believe it is a powerful text that is not very hard to understand. However, I believe some user may offer a better insight than I can.
Justin Carter
Read the Bible.
Also how was Mere Christianity
>generic statue
It's Michelangelo's Pieta you uncultured swine.
Aaron Butler
Tolstoi - Father Sergius.
not lit but I've found this on my tv folder.
Michael Lee
>he fell for the "religion is for the impressionable" meme
lol incredible I thought It got definitelly old in the '30s
You can be a Catholic and read each and every one of those books just fine, plus more. In particular the Sayings and the Philokalia precede the schism.
I'd recomend You "The Cloud of Unknowing" and "The Dark Night of the Soul" and "The Interior Castle" but They're pretty advanced; so I'll recomend You The Imitation of Christ which is extremelly advanced but explained easily. It has several layers of comprehension so start reading it now and You'll be officially done with it in the early 2030s after about 10 Re-readings.
That's What happened to me at least.
Also You might want some easy exegesys textbook. Pic related is excellent If You can find it in english.
Angel Jones
The Anti-Christ by Nietzsche
Jaxson Moore
Pascal :Pensees
Jordan Allen
Obviously the Bible. After that the catechisms of both the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic church would be in order.
Then probably move on to the church fathers.
Ethan Wilson
Could someone redpill on Gnosticism
Kayden Miller
>muh wager
>let's lie about my faith
>when the person judging is omniscient
So this is the power of christcuck logic
Carter Roberts
>Pensees
Reading through it now. It is illuminating to say the least
I'd also add Orthodoxy by Chesterton to your reading list, OP. Helped me to realise that I too, was "looking for England while being in England all this time".
William James
>accepting the wager means doing absolutely nothing to seek genuine faith and just saying “wtf I’m a Christian now” and living life as always
>even if we can attain true faith, God won’t wash away THAT sin of wanting to be saved because, you know, the Bible mentions this often
Why do you criticize something before you read it?
Kevin Phillips
>absolute peak of Christian artwork and sculpture in general
>generic
...yikes
William Gray
I would recommend this—the best introduction to theology. It will enhance your understanding of Aquinas, Augustine, Anselm and others.
Joseph Clark
Reading The Case for Christ now. It's okay but it's definitely not perfect.
Bentley Jones
No idiot, you missed my point. Pascal's wager focusses exclusively on the rewards of faith, not the content of the faith itself. This is then proposed in front of almighty God, who knows full well what you're doing while you're doing it. Your wager is the textbook example of bad faith. It's also a massive cope for the fact that you don't have any evidence for a god existing (I'm going to ignore for a moment your god, since you don't bother with that either), so instead you resort to slimy used car salesman tactics that can be debunked by anyone with even the most simplistic understanding of theology. Also, why do you keep insisting to read the spurce material? Why can't you simply post from the source material anything that shows me how wrong I am? Instead we get a thinly veiled appeal to authority, like the muslim who says I didn't debunk his quran, because I didn't quote it in the original Arabic
Blake Williams
>why can’t you just simply paste a 150+ page work here on 4channel hurr
Read a book sometime
Thomas Sanders
>Pascal's wager focusses exclusively on the rewards of faith, not the content of the faith itself
What does that even mean? If whatever you’re proposing is supposed to be an attack on the wager from a Christian perspective, then perhaps you should also use Biblical evidence to support it. God loves those who seek Him (Deut. 7:9). The conclusion is to seek Him...even if that journey begins with little to no faith
Lucas Harris
Again, a thinly veiled appeal of authority. This is like saying I can't debunk Islam because I didn't read the entire Quran in Arabic, the Sirah and every single Hadith. If I made a mistake in my reasoning, show it. Otherwise shut the fuck up, and go back to /pol/ where you probably came from.
You probably won't though, because you can't, because you have no argument. That's why you keep resorting to arguments from authority, which is a fallacy
Thomas Watson
>waht?!! You’re not supposed to try to acquire faith or seek God!!! God won’t like that!
Deuteronomy 4:29
>But from there you will seek the Lord your God and you will find him, if you search after him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Proverbs 8:17
>I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.
Jeremiah 29:13
>You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.
Matthew 7:7-8
>Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
Isaiah 55:6-7
>Seek the Lord while he may be found; call upon him while he is near; let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Lamentations 3:25
>The Lord is good to those who wait for him, to the soul who seeks him.
James 4:8
>Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
2 Chronicles 7:14
>If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Matthew 5:6
>Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Zachary Gomez
I can’t imagine having so little integrity that you criticize a work you haven’t read and demand that others show why you’re wrong. The simple answer is: READ PASCAL. But if you want to continue this discussion, I will expose your ignorance.
James Reyes
>Reading The Case for Christ now
Why would you read that? Historical Jesus isn't determinative for Christology.
Benjamin Rivera
Right, except that the wager doesn't state that. It states the massive advantages of belief over disbelief. It cares only about the results of faith, which is going to heaven. Going to heaven isn't the main tenet of Christianity, believing that Jesus is the Son of God is. Going to heaven is a consequence of this belief, not the overriding goal of Christianity. Otherwise you're picking rewards over faith, while proclaiming to be a true believer, which is lying
Nolan Rodriguez
>I will expose your ignorance.
Please do. So far, all you've presented are arguments from authority, and namecalling
Parker Hall
Could you enlighten us, please, upon where exactly does Pascal talk about this in the same sense that you do?
Because last time I checked Pascal used it as an example for an argument against atheists.
Gavin Phillips
>/christian/
when the hell is it coming along with the rest of eightchan
Isaiah Smith
Pascal's wager is an argument for faith, not for the existence of God. It's much more comparable to Kierkegaard's leap of faith than, say, Aquinas's five proofs. Pascal does not propose lying to oneself and to God in an attempt to win Heaven, but willfully shutting out all doubts until true faith can be experienced (remember that Pascal was a Jansenist and did not believe that the faithful could fall from grace).
Even this is an oversimplification, but it's much more accurate than what you will get from online memes.
Anthony Thomas
>Going to heaven isn't the main tenet of Christianity, believing that Jesus is the Son of God is
Why do you think people believe? What good does that do?
David Brooks
>Pieta
>generic
the absolute state of this board
Kempis' Imitation of Christ
Confessions is fine, but if you're going to read much of Augustine you'll also want to read Plotinus
Isaac Gomez
You revealed your ignorance in your first post in which you said
>let’s lie about my faith
which is a gross simplification of what a Pascal is proposing. He literally acknowledges the fact that you might not be able to believe right away. And to this he responds by saying that you must seek God: pray, avoid sins, read the Bible, go to church, do good works, etc.