How to renounce the flesh?

Renouncing the flesh is a coping mechanism for people who either can't fuck, or can't fuck whom they want. For some people desire just leads to endless alienation and frustration

No, I got it, but you seemed to miss my point. All you do is throw out low effort posts that are no where near as clever as you seem to think. you did not actually say anything, it is sitcom quality responses.

Pale girls really tug at my Finnish blood.

It's not a coping mechanism. It's downright resignation.

Young and single: Find mate
Can't find mate: Masturbate: Then go find mate
Stay single till old: Less and less desire to masturbate: Can still find mature mate

There's a range of options, but I don't recommend doing inhuman things to torment yourself.

Women can't empathize with continual sexual failure because they can pretty much always fuck. For some men the desire for sex is so strong, and its fulfillment so difficult to obtain, that sublimating your sexuality entirely is the only way to keep yourself from losing your mind.

beautiful post user

Living for the flesh is not living as well as you can. It's hedonistic but only in the short run.

This is an oft repeated fallacy. Put it out of your feeble minds. You've been lied to. Trolled. Stop repeating it

Literally no one here has a problem with getting too many women

YOU ARE MADE OF FLESH.

I'm not telling you to become chronic masturbaters and perverts.

>Do not be virtuous beyond your strength! And do not desire anything of yourselves against probability. Walk in the footprints where your fathers' virtue walked before you. How would you climb high if your fathers' will does not climb with you? But whoever would be a firstling should beware lest he also become a lastling. And wherever the vices of your fathers are, there you should not want to represent saints. If your fathers consorted with women, strong wines, and wild boars, what would it be if you wanted chastity of yourself? It would be folly! Verily, it seems much to me if such a man is the husband of one or two or three women. And if he founded monasteries and wrote over the door, "The way to sainthood," I should yet say, What for? It is another folly. He founded a reformatory and refuge for himself: may it do him good! But I do not believe in it. In solitude, whatever one has brought into it grows—also the inner beast. Therefore solitude is inadvisable for many. Has there been anything filthier on earth so far than desert saints? Around them not only was the devil loose, but also the swine.

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>sophie mudd
based
also just think
the flesh is stupid

A woman is incapable of understanding, on a tangible and psychologically authentic level, why a guy would lead an army of multiple nations in order to fuck some ho who cucked him and moved to Troy. Male desire is just too powerful to contain itself peacefully if it isn't being somewhat fulfilled. It's why incels exist, and kill people.

she’s amazing

>recommending kys to others
I hope you know there are consequences to this sort of statement. Not just for your soul, and your pathetic selfish guilt, but their soul and their families and friends should they act on the potential you have set to motion.

Never, ever fucking post 'kys' to anyone again. Do you understand?

read Aquinas. start in Summa with the bits about appetite and cardinal virtues.

read Plotinus. start with his On Love and On Beauty.

Society tells a woman her place is in the home having babies, society is wrong.
Society tells a man his worth is based on his success with woman, man is wrong.

While I find incels insufferable people unwilling to take a risk and experience life, they are right that you have no clue.

cunt

>In solitude, whatever one has brought into it grows—also the inner beast.
This is the only sensible statement in this excerpt. The rest is meaningless.

All he's saying is that our instincts are biologically inherited and trying to repress strong urges will weaken you.

based

You're a fucking moron. She wasn't actually telling him to kill himself, but showing that the OP's question is ridiculous because that's the only sensible answer to it, and someone clearly lacks all sense to want to commit suicide.

>moron
no. you.

>showing that the OP's question is ridiculous because that's the only sensible answer to it
she actually did NOT show that. she assumes it, because she's not educated and a nihilistic materialist.

You're made of flesh and nothing else. You want to renounce the flesh? Then you have to jump start the process of its decomposition into another form of energy.

>and nothing else
Pretty sure I got some bone in me, few other things as well.

>t. floppy sack of meat.

>You're made of flesh and nothing else
wrong. I am ensouled flesh. To me, the world is illuminated by reason. Mere flesh is in darkness.

read a book.

what does that do?

Mortification. Start small, buy a camel hair shirt.

I chuckled, but you know what I meant.

>I am ensouled flesh.
The other user's joke was better.

this is another good suggestion. OP, stop eating so much. maybe cut it back to one meal a day. and/or drink only water.

the more you cut off physical distractions, the more sensitive we become to the image of the divine. like wiping off a dirty mirror.

>The other user's joke was better.
Like I said: nihilistic materialists. You are all the same. It's not edgy or cool, it's sad.

Going against certain biological imperatives which your parents displayed isn't sometimes a good thing. Not that I wholly disagree with the assertion of course.
t. borderline alcoholic who comes from a long line of alcoholics

There's nothing nihilistic or materialistic about what I'm saying. You're the one reducing the spirit by attempting to quantify it in a "soul."

you compared the study of the soul to a joke. that is materialistic and nihilistic. the wisdom of which I speak is the virtue by which reason discerns the good (that is, the perfect, i.e. God).

i'm sorry you don't understand and haven't bothered to read anything on this topic.

once you see that girls are walking baboons with pussy craving fun, you no longer take them seriously and you stop being upset when seeing them

once you see that men crave to be walking dildos desperate to be chosen and objectified by women, you stop taking them seriously and you stop being upset when seeing them

I'm guessing when you said "read a book" you meant read a book that's at least 300 years old.

closer to 800 but sure

I love reading outdated science books.

one of the side effects is that it decreases your sex drive

me too.

so did butterfly fuck off finally? is she ever coming back to the thread to own up what an ugly person she is inside and out?

butt hurt fly

pray the rosary every day. you can't do it on your own. chastity is a gift from God.

i've been taking venlafaxine for about a month now and i might a be a schizoid but it did help me

Shit, just get in shape and/or lower your standards a bit. Pay for it if you have to. Celibacy/inceldom will seriously fuck with your head.

If you wanted to do it you'd just do it. A little bit of Sunday morning wisdom that applies to many things.

Thank you Aristotle

bit letraitrure relatreud

Read The Coiled Serpent by Cornelis Johannes Van Vliet
We don't need women anymore bro.

no u

This could definitely work. So simple yet so effective.

>ctrl+f
>castration
>0 results
It's the simple logical solution to this problem. Any competent veterinary or doctor will be able to safely castrate you. A short operation, local anaesthetic, a bit of soreness for a week or so, and never again will you be bothered by sexuality.

This. If you really want to "renounce the flesh" this is the only option. You have no use for your dick outside of sex and if you don't want sex why not cut it off?

Your phallus is the symbol of your masculinity, cutting it off equals renouncing your dominance over the world. Just because some don't understand that your dick is more than simply an instrument for pleasure, doesen't mean it is.

Do people actually get gelded anymore? Can I actually walk into a doctor's office and ask how much they charge to cut my balls off?

Not really. I'd say manly physical characteristics (deep voice, broad shoulders, etc.) are much more signifiers of masculinity than your fucking cock is. You think a small dicked femboy is more masculine that a 6'6" gigachad eunuch? Besides, if you "renounce the flesh" nobody is going to see your cock anyway, so why do you care if it's there to symbolise something?

Maybe not in the West, but pretty sure you can pay some Mexican or Thai doctor to do it.

>changing your sex is normal and okay (supposedly)
>getting rid of that shit entirely is weird and freakish and illegal

Fuck this.

WHAT IS THIS FUCKING THREAD?

THERE ARE NO BOOKS BEING TALKED ABOUT HERE

Fuck off degenerate

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this is your brain on American education

You are made of flesh, but if flesh is all that you made of, then you lost your connection to the Ideal and your life is of despair.

27 khv here, it's hard but I'm maintaining lucidity and I'm going strong nonetheless. Also literally 0 females in my uni classes.

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Based.

Daily reminder to not interact with namefags, the cancer of this board, under any circumstances

Realize you are living in a blessed interlude of easily accessible and nearly universal prostitution, in the middle of an otherwise apocalyptic civilizational downslide. It's still the kali yuga, but at least you can get laid, because nearly every 18-23 year old college roastie is now looking for a sugar daddy and willing to let you feel her up for some shitty weed.

The current crop of women is about to be far more miserable than the incels ever were. At least the incels have hobbies. Millions of women are already transitioning into permanent cat lady mode. After a few decades of cognitive dissonance at most, they'll flip to being ultra-conservative and wanting traditional femininity back, especially as they get jealous of a younger generation of women taking their turn at the lifestyle they briefly got to enjoy but now have to watch from afar.

So before that happens, take advantage. There are millions of desperate roasties who just hit the wall but still look decent. They're looking for a man to settle for. Their pussy's beat up, so you don't want to get trapped with that, but you can still sleep with them. Can't even manage that? No problem, just set aside enough money every month to pay for a sugar baby. Women are retarded so you can easily fuck them around with the money and jew them out of a good deal.

>renouncing my gf’s body
b-b-but I worship her body

>become Christia monk in order to focus on God
>spend all your waking hours fighting visions of fleshly tentations
>end up really thinking about God maybe one hour a week
>???
>profit

>he fell for the STEM meme

Didnt make female friends in school, went to do STEM. Now I dont know, nor meet any girls. I am doomed to KV-dom and cant even do much about it. I swear if I ever have children (lol) I would make being social a priority over academics. This shit is miserable.

You are supposed not to fight fleshly temptations but realise them as God's gift to you, just like everything you own and everything you are is God's gift to you. That way you are to think of God even at the peak of your carnal desires. If you do forget God in your carnal desires, however, then they do become a temptation, just as everything you own and everything you are becomes a temptation when, and as far as, you forget about God who gifted it to you.

The ideal doesn't exist.

Sure, if it existed it wouldn't be the ideal.

and you are made of fat. mostly.
lmao.

Not 'her' but this thread is fucking stupid. The christfaggotry needs to stop.
Literally this.
Too harsh for redditors you mean.
Too harsh for redditors.

You can’t.

I'm not actually in any STEM, I'm in conservatory in south Italy, I study experimental music. It's worse. You wouldn't believe how hard is to find a girl who's developed in some way on the artistic side, they generally look like clones of each others with aesthetic differential traits. My country is so underdeveloped on the artistic/musical academic ambit that literally all women or are singers or are violin/cello players with no knowledge or interest of any music outside the programmed repertory. The result is that the majority of the classes apart from those ones in this conservatory are devoid of any female presence.

Why the fuck we needed that

Get bored of it

Get a normal gf that you share common interests, and that you can stand in the 99.6% of the day you are not having sex.

Unironically get castrated. You could theoretically change your brain chemestry through meditation in order to not like the shape of a woman anymore but the whole world will seem distorted once you do that. I tried it, felt like I was going more schizofrenic day by day. Don't deny what is natural, if you do you will go insane

Habit isn't natural.

Chemical castration

You were expecting hotties in your Stockhauzen class ?

Men have higher sex drives than women. It's literally scientifically proven that they crave sex more than women. Also, psychologically, in our overly competitive society women being the choosier of the two sexes choose only the best males so men end up never asked out and the women asked out too often with normal human psychology. That leads to meek men being alienated. Most are beta males, only the alpha male gets the pussy.

Stop trolling, ironically. You're not fooling anyone. This is a boy's only club, Yea Forums is, and you're simply trolling it by pretending to be female here.

Dating site statistics back up the hypergamy issue also. Yea Forums is for introverted men that would try to date through dating sites.

Go back to r e d d i t please.

Not hotties but at least some average female organism.

Anyway in countries like Germany, Sweden, Norway, in general countries from the north Europe, experimental/electronic music classes have increasing female presence because they're understanding that those artistic expression exists and is part of their culture.

youtube.com/watch?v=Imko56liahw

Look how many cuties are in this class for example.

>chav-sounding hipster yuppie
>fifty pakis
>hipster queer kids

oi m8 weef created utopia innit?

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Yes and It's beautiful.

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How do I find her?

That may be true but german girls are also generally less open and very very prudish compared to other european countries. Always thought italy or france must have fewer KVs. Do people socialize easily in italian clubs/bars? In germany you must be really really outgoing to connect, otherwise people stay in their own circles

My life is fucking great and I've never had to think up some fantasy like a "soul" to explain how it works. I instinctually questioned such ideas while growing up, because they made no sense. How is there a soul when "I" am a misnomer, a construction of the mind built by vastly oversimplifying the extremely complex biological mechanisms which make up the body, which does not actually have a moment of birth and death in time since energy is merely transforming over time? What is the soul then? It's just an idea, a way of interpreting the situation, and not a very accurate one.

You underestimate the psychological effects on your masculinity after castration

This is the actual answer, and the only way to do that is to have a lot of it to the point that there's nothing new in it for you.

it makes you fat as fuck

Whenever I get emotionally attached I lose interest in sex. I want to use her body for 5 minutes of aggressive thrusting, coooming, and discarding her afterwards. We could go for a coffee afterwards, but if I like her, I'm not fucking her again.

Soul is just a way of speaking, there’s obviously subdivisions to mind. You don’t have to be religious or believe in an immortal part of yourself to understand what soul is.