Why does reddit keep suckling Yea Forums's dick? Is this board composed of redditors?

One does not simply claim to have read the Wake.

In the first couple of years we had fairly active "Infinite Summer"s where anons read the book together over the summer. I haven't read it, but I'm fairly up on Wallace's non fiction and short stories.

With the hypertext version, introductions, lectures and audibook versions all available, it's not some sort of impossible beast. It's just a good poem, the opening couple of paragraphs are quite quoted tbqh my NIGGER.

Have you seen how many marxists we have?
Where do You think they come from?

Who's done the audiobook versions? I like the little bit Joyce read aloud, but I can imagine any other audio version to be shit without an incredible amount of work going into it.

You're never finished reading it, the end is also the beginning and you're invited to read it again with a new context and new readings/interpretations. The secondary literature is interesting but it's by no means exhaustive or a replacement for your own insight youtube/willhuntingharvardbarscene and all that. The idea that the threshold is having "read it cover to cover" to rec it is a weird line to draw imqho.

From Red Empire on the East?

Wouldn't they be more Maoists :3

Reddit is such a fucking black hole of taste and intelligence. Anything good that gets near it gets sucked right into its gaping maw; it's downright Lovecraftian.

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It's the fucking upvote system. I sometimes try to get into it for networking/jobs stuff but lordie lordie.

>Yea Forums

A list with Plato but without Aristotle is unironically based af and fuck this nigga for thinking otherwise.

It's the people who use it. There are subs that are ok. Demographics are destiny.

This is what I've been hoping, but I think I'm tending to find subs after they get popular and are a bit shit.

He did and the poster says as much. Reread it.

>Yea Forums also has an audience which I think abuses the anonymity
Duh. Would any of us really keep coming back here if 50% of the culture here was not insulting each other and calling each other retarded faggots?

I don't find that bit coherent. I think he's saying the list doesn't include plays (which was at least a little cultural thing of Yea Forums's) but the Goethe didn't count because or in spite of poetry, not v clear.

Also Goethe wrote non-fiction. I assume the list focused on prose fiction.

He's not extremely clear in that part but he means you can't fully appreciate Goethe's plays without seeing them onstage. So the poetical experience you get from merely reading them is inferior from what you get with a top-tier lyrical poet lke Pindare.

Oh. He wrote a lot of poetry that wasn't in plays.

Oh yeah, I'll admit I lost interest about 1/4 of the way through and listened to maybe a little more of that. I think the version I heard was on Audible. I don't have a subscription no more. I thought it was very good. Imho it works better as a long form poem being spoken enthusiastically.

This isn't as good as the Audible version, but has pages, and desu I think the best experience is with the text and the recitation: youtube.com/watch?v=6HgCjtd2iPU

This is the Audible version I think: youtube.com/watch?v=JAc901X7gK0&list=PLvh5TdDLAA5RML7cDfGt2Id9Wcg0cel-J

I've never heard anyone recommend Demons as an intro to Dostoevsky. Also people routinely study him in high school and even in some cases middle school, you don't need to be a scholar to break into most authors. They may require secondary reading to get the full effect of the book but you can still study it a bit beforehand and maybe have a good edition with a hefty intro sections or even notes.

I think this is one of the biggest problems with studying literature today, people assume there is no middle ground between brainless casual reading and 8 years in college studying an author. In Yea Forums's case, we react to this by sticking to the side that says you need to read x books before you ever touch what you actually want to read, and reddit goes on the opposite end and claims those books are simply too highbrow and intellectual and only exist to stroke nerd egos. The fact is you don't need to achieve nirvana for a good book to have been worth reading.

Just read literature at your own pace, study as best you can with what you have, it's not a competition and even a pleb can get a lot out of a good book if they put all their effort into it. I first read Dostoevsky at 13 based on a recommendation from an English teacher and that's probably the biggest reason I give a shit about literature today.

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Anyone here since 2016? I just joined last year, what's the difference between current Yea Forums and 2016 Yea Forums?

He seems to be assuming it's some kind of overarching master list rather than just individuals voting for their personal top books. I can see the point about pre-modern lit if that list is all you're looking at but that stuff in practice is discussed all the time here. Read the Greeks is memed for a reason

I'm from 2015. It was shit and is the same today.

>not one in a hundred of the Yea Forums 4channers have read Ulysses cover to cover
I guess I'm the 1%

Same

Same

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Like everything which produces a smarting sting, there's 20% truth to this, and 80% bullshit. While books which are recognised as intellectual are inflated in worth on the list, there are only 100 works included in the list, and it is produced through a very simple survey. This guy, while seemingly well read, has jumped to making a great deal of assumptions.

>which produces a smarting sting,
lol it just produces a laff in me
also:
>smarting sting
bit redundant

Based

Kek they have no idea how much of IJ is vidya bad, me cool nerd, or how much of Nightwood is about Jews and cucks. She's just upset we've read more lesbians than she has, the lyric poetry mention is a dead giveaway.

While he is partially right, you have forgotten the sacred reply:

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wtf that's problematic

Why are those people attracted to the site?
The system.

And Brutus is an honorable man

i don't know who is stupider

Probably you for being unable to recognise sarcasm

probably

This. 2016 was a mistake.

I've been here on and off since 2013 or so. Yea Forums was shit then and is shit now of course. We're probably around as good as we were then, but in different ways. We have on average less discussion about books than we did then, but the quality of the books that we do (on rare occasion) have discussions about has improved. There was a good deal more discussion of genre fiction years ago, for instance.

>Yea Forums was shit then and is shit now of course.
Found the cancer.

well thanks, doc, but can you cure it?

This was written by a butthurt brianlet, who can't understand difficult books.

as was this

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TAKE THAT BACK

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No. Our only option is to become the cancer and metastatize and propogate. Ideally we want some Henrietta Lacks posters so we can contaminate every literary petri dish of culture there is.

Imagine using the word "hipster" unironically.

>reddit has anonymity
well that's a matter of definition I guess