Yeah bro like positivity and productivity is the key, gotta make something of your life, man up bro...

Not the user you replied to but,
I think happines and self comfort are far more prior than looking at reallity

>actually went up and talked to the girl I fancied instead of just moping about in a corner
>now I have an amazing girlfriend and my life in general is a lot better
Why am I supposed to not belive my lived experience, again?

>I think happines and self comfort
Don't exist but ok. For me personally it's not a choice, I can't help but see reality for what it is. I can't choose to be delusional.

Because if they fucking admit its delusional they will have a strong reason to not believe them, therefore not being affected/motivated by this type of speech, why would anyone do that? Why would you do that? Self destructive

I'm not "positive".
The weak should die, as the law of nature requires.

This just in: Yea Forums poster can't be fucked to get up in the morning with a smile on his face instead of a bullshit, infantile attitude.

People don't place their faith in positivity because the world around them is purely made of sunshine and good deeds, they do it because it makes sense. Being positive improves your mood, your relationships, and your general outlook on life. The world has 'bad' in it, in so far as you define those things as bad. Some people like cock and ball torture, while others don't. Your perception of reality is the truth of it, so when you choose to see life as the beautiful, (in my opinion God-given) experience that it is, my experience is that it becomes that which you believe it to be.

Watch a bird fly by and ask yourself if it's worth it to believe it is destined to fall.

>Why am I supposed to not belive my lived experience, again?
Because common sense like "just talk to her bro" doesn't suddenly make delusional beliefs less delusional. Life is not a movie.

Look up the definition of the word 'Ego', brother.

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>gotta make something of your life
What else are you planning on spending your time with if not striving towards longer term goals which align with your philosophy on life?
The defeatist NEET life is comfortable only for a finite amount of time.
There is nothing delusional about rejecting the hedonistic way of life you have been thrust upon.
Playing video games, watching anime, masturbating, consuming media, and isolating yourself just doesn't lead to an overall sense of satisfaction in life.
You are wasting your potential, and your time is running out. Each an every day of adulthood is another day that your cognitive ability has declined, especially if you are consuming sugar, never exercising, and rejecting the uncomfortable idea of having an open minded approach to learning.
It's so easy to become trapped by your shitty way of life with all that we have to distract ourselves from our higher purpose.

>Watch a bird fly by and ask yourself if it's worth it to believe it is destined to fall.
Based

Pessimistfags are idiots

living is a finite amount of time

I'm inclined to agree with you, but I can't see a reason to believe that playing games and jerking off are any less valid than conquering Gaul. None of us truly 'know' what we're supposed to do here, so imo it's realistic to simply live as you are.

"The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance." - Alan Watts

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>Why would you do that?
Because it's not a choice. You're either a brainlet coward living in delusion or you're honest about reality.
>Yea Forums poster can't be fucked to get up in the morning with a smile on his face
What kind of psychopath wakes up and smiles for no reason? I smile when there's a good reason to smile, not for the sake of putting other people at ease like an oversocialised amoeba.
>they do it because it makes sense
No, they do it because it's easy. It's easy to believe the world is just and if you keep smiling and work hard good things will happen. It's hard to look at reality and acknowledge most of your life is guided by random chance.
>Your perception of reality is the truth of it
No, this isn't finger painting. Reality is reality, your ignorance of it doesn't change that.
>in my opinion God-given
Of course, the double whammy of delusion. Positivity cuck AND God botherer.
>Watch a bird fly by and ask yourself if it's worth it to believe it is destined to fall.
pffffffffffttttt what in the fuck? Was that meant to sound profound?

living in gay fairytale la-la land is for big brained boys like myself and joe rogan

I'm not your brother faggot

Well, you’ve led yourself down a deep dark hole cause everyone knows reality ain’t nice and shiny, it’s not flowery or colorful, almost everyone on this board realizes that we are alone even when we’re in our most crowded situation, that no matter what it’s impossible to be a special 1 in a million because you’re a 1 amongst a million, but everyone gotta cling on a lie, their own lie, even, maybe not realizing it but maybe would admit it, delusions are great sometimes, we might even defend them

>What else are you planning on spending your time with if not striving towards longer term goals which align with your philosophy on life?
Oh I don't know, maybe just living? Why does there have to be more than that? Why do you need to invent goals for yourself? Are you just distracting yourself from sitting still long enough to realise "oh yeah why the fuck am I doing this?".
>All those assumptions
Pathetic

Tbh if you’re not choosing to live as a slimey coward cornered up in his room of delusion happy, comfortable and supported over being the vicious brave philosopher who defies other thoughts to live in sorrow, hatred and pain you’re the brainlet nigga here either that or desperate for individuality

This is one of those things where until you get to the other side it sounds like bullshit, but it's all true. The problem is you thinking there's some precise algorithm you follow to make others tolerate you. There's not; virtue is a disposition.

Of course if you associate with other delusional idiots it all makes sense, you're all acting on the same delusional ruleset

>a slimey coward cornered up in his room of delusion happy, comfortable and supported over being the vicious brave philosopher who defies other thoughts to live in sorrow, hatred and pain
Project harder faggot

I sincerely hope you're just trolling, which you are, but for the sake of being emphatic I'll keep trying to talk you out of this narcissistic hell hole you're digging for yourself.

you keep saying that everyone here is delusional about reality. What do you mean by that? Exactly what truth of reality are you aware of that all these "pathetic, delusional (learn new words btw this is Yea Forums) toddlers" aren't? and what makes you believe that, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority is telling you otherwise, reality is a chance driven cesspit of bad? who skullfucked you so hard that you can't wake up and realize that the more time you spend in this negative spiral the longer you will be unhappy? You wanna be happy? Be happy

Oh and the bird thing was supposed to be profound, and it was.

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seeing reality in black ans white dichotomy is very indicative of narcissistic personality disorder

Who hurt u user

Ah yes, the delusion that talking to people is more conductive to forming relationships than brooding in a corner.

>Watch a bird fly by and ask yourself if it's worth it to believe it is destined to fall.
Based and beautypilled

I know what you are. I know what "living" for you entails.
Your ideas aren't those of someone who provides value in society, you are like a baby who suckles on the teat that is provided.
Haven't you ever thought about the current state of the society which you inhabit?
How can you be comfortable "just living" without any concern for the direction that it's heading?
Take some responsibility for the gift you've been given, action is still inaction, you worm.

sometimes it is worth thinking the bird will fall because you know it will. death and pain are a part of this just as much as love and becoming are

I agree that in the relative world we live in, it's useful to know that eventually all birds die. But I both choose to believe and know that other birds will fly.

Death and pain are as beautiful a part of life as any other things. We are the ones who define them as bad. It's the basics of duality, which is in my opinion the truth of reality (or without delusion, as OP would so lovingly put it)

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I always imagine posts like this are on some level directed at the poster himself

>What do you mean by that?
Exactly what is sounds like. People walk around with these little dreams and aspirations for the future, thinking it'll improve them as a person or change them or make their life better somehow. And it never does, as soon as they get the promotion they want another one. "I'm gonna go to university, get a degree in physics, make six figures, buy a house, marry and have children, buy a holiday home, win a marathon" and so on for the whole of their pathetic lives. Even if they utterly fail at everything, they still think they're just not trying hard enough.

The truth of life is that nothing you do will ever make you feel more content with it, all it should take is one look in the paper at all the rich people complaining about their depression or killing themselves or drinking themselves to death. That's your endgame, that's what the peak of your belief is. It's empty and entirely worthless.
>learn new words
Piss of pseud. If a word works it works.
>and what makes you believe that, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority is telling you otherwise,
Since when does what the majority believe prove anything?
>You wanna be happy?
No, I don't. Because I don't believe in that psychotic obsession with happiness. If I find a tenner, I'll be happy for a few minutes. Pretending you're "happy" is fucking psychotic, no one is ever "happy" more than a few minutes a day/week.
>Oh and the bird thing was supposed to be profound, and it was.
ahahahahahaahahahahaha holy fuck

>Your ideas aren't those of someone who provides value in society
Please off yourself right fucking now.

I couldn't give less of a fuck about providing value to society and anyone who does should be burned alive.
>Haven't you ever thought about the current state of the society which you inhabit?
Yes, what's your point?
>How can you be comfortable "just living"
Because that's the natural state of being for man. Never ending desire isn't natural, it's a result of living in a technological slave colony.
>Take some responsibility for the gift you've been given
Excuse me? What fucking gift? Fuck you and your responsibility. When you say responsibility you really mean "assimilate and contribute to society like the rest of us". You're not even human.

>I couldn't give less of a fuck about providing value to society and anyone who does should be burned alive.
Then go live elsewhere with the wilder-beasts, you are fit for consumption. Stopped reading there.

Flying for birds is like walking for us. There's nothing beautiful about it, it's just physics. A bird doesn't look at a human and think "shiiiiiieeeet he's walking the FUCK out of that road".

Don't make anything of yourself and go broke and starve. I promise none of us will care. Over a 150,000 people die a day no one would care if a shit poster died for their "based philosophy".

>Join in the delusion or be killed
Nice

Why do you care what other people think of you?

You subject yourself to a shitty, awful existence because you're so afraid of being on the outside. You're so afraid of people judging you. Sad.

Ok, so you don't want to be happy because always fades in no time. Have you considered looking for another option that is everlasting? If you want my advice, which it seems like you don't but why else would you make this post, you should find that which is unchanging in the world and focus on it. The only thing that will never leave you is you, and that is more than enough.

"The truth of life is that nothing you do will ever make you feel more content with it": then why are some people content? If you don't want to participate in the game of life, no one (especially me) has any right to tell you that you should. But that's not positivity. Positivity is waking up with a smile like a sociopath, knowing that the day can be good if you choose to let it be good. Your definition of realities ups and downs it what gives it ups and downs. It's like I said, some people like cock and ball torture, some people don't.

You talk about the truth of reality and how everyone else is delusional, but I don't think you have any truth to hold onto other than that some people are delusional. What do you want? Have it. Some people want six figures, a house and a banging wife and are willing to work for it. That appeals to a lot of people, but no ones forcing you do that. Just be content man, jesus. Nothing can hurt you unless you let it.

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Saying there's nothing beautiful about a bird flying is like saying there's nothing beautiful to be seen from the top of a mountain: It's true if you want it to be true.

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Saying things doesn't make them true

Their "pessimistic" philosophy is just a gigantic fucking cope for their shitty situation that they're already in. The only philosophy worth taking seriously is the one which mandates one to acquire as much power as possible, in whatever form.
Philosophical systems justifying misery, pain and suffering are a dime a dozen, it's basically the slave mindset. Your genes and environment determine 80% of your life, your outlook on life does the rest.

>Ok, so you don't want to be happy because always fades in no time.
No, idiot. Just no. Learn to fucking read.

why not? What is truth? Is reality anything more than just a shared perception?
Two men sit at a table with a piece of paper between them. One sees it as white and new, the other sees it as yellow and faded. What is the paper, truly?

>What do you want?
Nothing.

I'm not a slave to desire like you faggots, I don't want anything and I never have.

>No, I don't. Because I don't believe in that psychotic obsession with happiness. If I find a tenner, I'll be happy for a few minutes. Pretending you're "happy" is fucking psychotic, no one is ever "happy" more than a few minutes a day/week.

those are the words you used. also you left some things unanswered buddy, I'd absolutely love to hear your opinion on the rest of my message :) you've been such a treat to talk to

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>What is the paper, truly?
I can't fucking see it so I don't know, stop saying shit you think sounds profound, it's just cringy

>Their "pessimistic" philosophy is just a gigantic fucking cope
Yes, the view that life isn't a hollywood movie is just a cope. It makes their lives so much easier to live with knowing everyone around them is a psychopath and everything is designed to perpetuate the myth of happiness.

He's not wrong though.

>doesn't desire anything
>creating threads on Yea Forums to convince others of his elite way of life because his mum is getting disappointed that yet another week has passed by where her son has fulfilled his own prophecy
So tell me, what does a typical day for you entail?

>those are the words you used
And nowhere did I say I wanted to avoid happiness because it was fleeting, that's you inventing things in your mind I never said.
> also you left some things unanswered buddy, I'd absolutely love to hear your opinion on the rest of my message
Boring, delusional ramblings don't interest me

Seriously dude, look up the definition of the word ego. You're lost in one.

I'm familiar with the concept of desirelessness, it's pretty standard. You wanted to make this post, you wanted to keep talking to us, just like you wanted to call me a faggot. Monks don't sit in temples shit posting, that's why they're happy. You are stuck in the unfortunate delusion that everyone except for you is delusional, and quite honestly I wish there was a combination of words to be said that could change that. At this point, I'm just giving up on the conversation and letting you go until, hopefully, something happens that will bring a little bit of peace into your extremely obviously troubled heart. Namaste, nigga

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>Yes, the view that life isn't a hollywood movie is just a cope.
Some people's lives do look like hollywood movies, but if you believe in this bullshit yours won't LMAO.
>It makes their lives so much easier to live with knowing everyone around them is a psychopath and everything is designed to perpetuate the myth of happiness.
Unironically it does though, that's why it's cope. It lifts personal responsibility to change their life from the person and puts the blame on other people and unchangeable circumstances.

Lol, what a retard. Why don't you kys?

but you agree that if you saw it you would be able to define reality by your experience/perception of it? that was the point, that the reality we live in is just a bunch of individual perceptions that we happen to be blessed enough to share

ITT: OP getting BTFO over and over

Good thread

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The only psycho here is you, take your fucking meds.

No, the paper is either new or old. It's not both.

>Two men sit at a table with a piece of paper between them. One sees it as white and new, the other sees it as yellow and faded. What is the paper, truly?
Use the fucking blind men and elephant thing if you're going for this.

Google new old stock.

I'm not saying it's both, I'm saying that reality as a whole is just our experience of it. It's an entirely hypothetical scenario, use the black/blue white/gold dress thing if you need a real life example. Obviously that was solved and scientifically explained, but the point isn't to prove what color the envelope/dress is, it's to prove that experience is the underlying definition of the world.

>Afraid of people judging me
No I just need money for food

So why are you posting threads and why are you still alive?

>It lifts personal responsibility to change their life
Who says they want to change their lives?

Why do you keep associating pessimists with being miserable, depressed losers?

Did your mom forgot to buy you pills yesterday youngin? Does she know you're bitchin' on an Albanian Shoe Throwing Forum on God's Sunday? Do yourself some good and get the fuck out of the house. Walk your dog or ride your bike, you pathetic waste of taxpayer money.

Op is a retard, but so are the people who reply to him.
It's some sort of competition among retards.

Because I felt like it
No

>A Hollywood movie
>The myth of happiness
What does getting a job to make money to be able to secure an independent living have to do with movies or happiness? It's just the reality of the situation we all live in it's not like we have a choice, but if you do actually have a choice about not having to work a job you hate then you're living a "Hollywood" lifestyle. The idea is just to make the best of the drab existence we are forced to adjust to if we want to persist.

Why are you so angry user?
I can sense the ressentiment in your post.

>If everyone disagrees with you that means you got BTFO
Not how life works you fucking drone

>Because I felt like it
So you want something, don't you retard?

Have sex.

Stop acting like you've never been hungry before dumbass we all have desires. Denying them is just asceticism, which orients your life towards death.

I pity your poor parents and I hope you're not a single child else their life's work will have been in vain.

Disagree

>were you raised by a single mother
I was raised by a single mum. Does this cause this outlook on life?
I don't have a problem with talking to gurls, but I generally find the whole social game purposeless because life and SOCIETY feels so meaningless and boring. Don't have a problem with not getting pussy but pushing 30 and still having vievs of edgy hs student feels kinda pathetic.

>if not striving towards longer term goals which align with your philosophy on life?

How would I know if they do?

No, there is a type of person, which OP here embodies, that finds some overarching purpose elusive and as result, lashes out through its antithesis—a nihilistic existence. I think it largely has much to the post-industrial society he was born in, US if I were to guess.

Nope. I just do what I feel like. I have no long term plans, no short term plans. I just do as I please when I please.

I always find it funny when Jobe Rogain pulls the whole 'you gotta work hard' shtick. The guy worked construction for a summer -outside of that his whole life has been stumbling from one extremely lucky opportunity to another and now he has a 15 hour work week that involves him chatting with people.
Good for him, but he's probably the worst spokesperson for hard work imaginable.

I'd wager because he doesn't want to.

The desires of others and their wish to use me for their own ego driven goals doesn't concerne me.
Though don't stay up too long old man there is much work for you tomorrow and you can't disappoint Mr Shekelbergstein

Hunger has little to do with wanting.

And thus you act like an animal, you repeat the same actions over and over again while being probably coerced to behave as others need.
If one doesn't enslave himself in the pursuit of a greater goal, he will be enslaved by others.

Most successful people who do work hard ime will tell you that if you can find a way to work less hard you're an idiot for not doing it.

It has everything to do with wanting. Try going a few days without eating and tell me if you want to eat. You act like you're above primal desires, but you aren't.

>It's just the reality of the situation we all live in
No, it's not. It's delusion that you think so.

Less hard work, but what do you do with your free time?
Are you really enjoying it?

>And thus you act like an animal
Keeping coping pathetic peasant

What do you do for a living?

Unless you are working for yourself, you are working for someone else.

You're missing the point but, incidentally, I have gone 24, 36, 48 hours without eating many times and never WANTED to eat. Being wrong in two ways on such a simple issue is not easy, but I guess yuppies are go getters in every regard.

abloo abloo someone touched me and also i read some book once now im sadsad bloo

>work work work be productive for society work work work
Can you really not think of anything better to waste your life on?

>abloo abloo someone touched me
I'm sorry to hear you were molested

Unless you are born rich, i can't see any alterantive.
And besides what is it that you do with your free time? Shit post on 4chin?

>Name one single great thinker that thinks like this, rogan
>Uh, what's that alien looking nigger called? Goggings!
>So, a brainlet
>There's Jocko Willink...
>Also a brainlet
>Jordan Peterson?
>Midwit.
>AAAAAAH SAVE ME JAMIE
What did he mean by this?

>Unless you are born rich, i can't see any alterantive.
Think harder brainlet

>>Name one single great thinker that thinks like this, rogan
>something is true because a bunch of brainlets consider a brainlet as an intellectual authority
woah

>And besides what is it that you do with your free time? Shit post on 4chin?
Anything I want, including shitposting.

Tell me user, how do you survive.
Do you suck dicks for cash?

there is literally nothing wrong with that statement

>something is true because a bunch of brainlets consider a brainlet as an intellectual authority
You mean like how you believe Joe Rogan and Jocko Willink's view on life is true?

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But what you want is stupid and pointless.

No, i don't consider other people's opinions as true just because they are famous or regarded as smart.

I don't hold a man responsible because as he was he might have acted differently, but to make him different.

>there is literally nothing wrong with that statement

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>Oh and the bird thing was supposed to be profound, and it was.
It was possibly the cringest most pseud thing I've seen posted on this board, which is a massive accomplishment in of itself so congrats

Quints of truth

You've just literally proven you can't read.

I wouldn't yet describe myself as successful. I've been working 50+ hours a week for a few years now. In the next few weeks that's transitioning to less intense work over a couple of days at higher (base) pay. I'll have 3 weekdays free nearly every week now, so I'm starting a new business venture. Next month I'm going to a conference to meet people and I think in a couple of months I'm applying for funding for a project, and I'm currently going through the headache of buying heavy machinery from overseas. I might also take up a remote role in something that's related to both things with a charity or something. Doesn't pay great but the network and learning opportunities are extremely valuable. To give some idea of monies, the couple of days a week thing will pay about 35kUSD per year with me cutting back to 1 client, in the past I've had 3 simultaneous clients but it'll take time to reintegrate extra people, 2 clients should be doable by then though. The nature of the work is such that it will still take the same amount of time and roughly the same amount of effort, but I also know about 3 clients is my limit on my own. I'm not going to be ridiculous and suggest that 150-200k pro rata isn't successful, but I'm not quite there yet even if I can see the goal (and of course there will be further goals after that, I'm very lucky right now).

My advice is to work hard if you need to, but not to do it for the sake of working hard. Working hard doesn't bring success, working smart does. If you can make a lot of money doing fuck all why the hell wouldn't you? Why wear a hairshirt? It opens up new possibilities for you, which is the whole point of making money in the first place. If you're working hard because it's a passion then stop stressing so much about the productive aspect of it, or get to a place where you don't stress about it so much.

I think a job, a wife, a house, 2 kids and lots of money is stupid and pointless

And I sometimes enjoy it a lot, sometimes I really really hate stuff but that's life to some degree. I would say that I don't have a boss right now and for me that's great although I've generally gotten on well with bosses in the past. I just don't like hierarchies and bureaucracy and so on. Also, even if you don't have a boss you still have to answer to people, again that's life.

I love it when Yea Forums exposes itself as a basic bitch board with delusions of profundity. Threads like these and the REEEEEEing of anons in response are invaluable.

Your thoughts are foolish and you will realise that in time.

Sour grapes. You are confined to a very specific way of life through your lack of discipline—conducive only to misery.

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Yeah two kids aren't enough to be honest, and obviously modern women make terrible wifes but with some re-education and if you find them while they are still somewhat pure you can make them great.
It can make you happy, if you know how to do it correctly.

Huh? This thread is a basic as fuck NEET cope thread because the pressure is mounting on him that his youth is going to waste. Many such cases.

Not him but, what is he wasting?
Working hard to make more money for shekelberg, and maybe more money for yourself?
But what do you need that money for?
Will it trully make your life better?
Would you really be worse of if you worked less and spent your time fucking around with hoes and drinking with bros?
It's such a pathetic cope that you have here.
A slave you are, a slave to needs that have been artificially created for you, to control you.

>You are confined to a very specific way of life through your lack of discipline—conducive only to misery.
You desperately have to believe this because otherwise your ideology would fall apart.

NEET life for most is one of stagnation, the activities of a NEET result only in regression to mediocrity.
When asked what the NEET does with his life more than shitpost on Yea Forums, he can only lie to himself.
Get a job, bum.

Not my point. This mindset seems to proliferate within fitness communities, I think there is something about physical exercise that makes it especially susceptible to this sort of superficial motivational talk. Intellectual activity is castrating and sterilizing, this virile mumbo jumbo is totally incongruent with it. Picture someone with a wrecked spine sitting down reading textbooks all day repeating this sort of shit to himself, doesn't make any sense!

Wagie life for most is one of stagnation, the activities of a wagie result only in regression to mediocrity.

When asked what the wagie does with his life more than slave away for shekelberg, he can only lie to himself.

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So you can either be a neet or a retard who spends all of his day working?
There isn't a middle ground?
>muh stagnation
>muh shit posting on Yea Forums
Ok, but what do (you) do with your free time?

Wagie wont always be wagie.
NEET will always be NEET.

Joe Rogan (Rogen) is Jewish btw. He even looks like a cross between Runkel from Californication and Mussolini.

>Wagie wont always be wagie.
Oh yeah, shekelberg lets you "retire" when you're fucking 80 years old and no good to him anymore.
>NEET will always be NEET
Comfy

Read the denial of death by becker

Name one wagie who doesn't have a pathetic and "stagnating" life

Wagecucking is the essence of basic you vacuous dum dum you

That's not an argument idiot. Either quote a passage or shut up.

The wagie life is just a massive cope. But the NEET life is just a drive toward extinction

I play with my gf's kid, take him to the park, sometimes his dad comes along.

>God-given
Here comes the Christcuck.
Anyway based post user.

lmao wtf?
so you are taking care of the progeny of someone else?

It's 2019, real men step up

Money and social interaction will always mean progression, money provides freedom to pursue ulterior pursuits which have greater likelihood of improving the quality of your life than succumbing to the life of a NEET living on scraps.
It requires far too much luck to live a decent life as a NEET even if you are one in a billion who actively create, not passively consume.
Wagecucking for 50 years, yes.
As a temporary measure to grant a life of purpose and power, no.

He looks like Vin Diesel.

B-but WHAT IF something bad happens???

>As a temporary measure to grant a life of purpose
You will be "free" when you are too old to have fun and enjoy life.
>money provides freedom to pursue ulterior pursuits
Name one that isn't useless.

>As a temporary measure to grant a life of purpose and power
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Everyone point and laugh at the "I've got a plan, I'll retire by 35 years old" faggot. You guys are fucking sad as fuck.

Pessimism and self pity is exponentially more delusional than optimism.

Stop associating pessimism with self pity, depression and misery. It doesn't work like that, much as you'd like to believe.

When uncle Joe tells you people who don't achieve anything are just self pitying losers, he's talking out his arse.

>You will be "free" when you are too old to have fun and enjoy life.
Nope, I will always have hope. something that you NEETs will never have.
>tell me what you consider worthwhile in life so i can critique it
just figure it out for yourself dude, what is worthwhile is different for most, but not considerably so (i assume)
shut the fuck up pussy

>shut the fuck up pussy
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

CALLED IT

>Wagecucking
Working isn't bad dude. This is why the arguments around this are so feeble, people are trying to work around your irrational fear of working for a wage.

Money is just a cope for ugly losers who think that if they continue working hard one day they will be happy.
Seeing them pursue the only thing that they know is just as pathetic as seeing an obese retard eating.

thanks man, I'm not a christian though

Keep living in the moment, dude. One day happiness will come knocking. I'm sure of it.

>I will always have hope.
You only hope is to not die before you get to "enjoy" your life i.e. when you are too old to have fun or get your small dick up.

>what is worthwhile is different for most
Yes indeed, i consider all consumer products as useless trash.

There are things I want to do that cost money tho.

>i consider all consumer products as useless trash.
You are no Diogenes dear chap.

You are selling yourself, how is that different from being a prostitute or a slave.

Keep living in delusion that you'll retire before all your teeth fall out idiot

I was a NEET for 4 years, and after waging for over a year I am significantly happier, and more wealthy too. The constantly running tap of pleasure has progressively diminishing effects, one day you will find that being a NEET is not what it once was.

>I was a NEET for 4 years, and after waging for over a year I am significantly happier, and more wealthy too
That's because you're a born slave

>how is that different from being a prostitute or a slave
Why don't you tell me? Why do you want to compare it to prostitution or slavery?

You sell your body and time for money, that's no different from prostitution

You are not special. It's so easy to drop out of society. I will pray for you tonight my brother.

>You are not special
I've been a NEET for 11 years and I've loved every second of it. I don't regret a day of it. I've tried working jobs now and again, I always quit after less than 2 weeks because I feel like I want to die because it's just slavery.

>Nope, I will always have hope.

you misspelled cope, wagie

>the slave finds more pleasure in being useful for other's self interest in exchange for a small revard and assumes that everybody is just like him, after all aren't we all equal

A negative attitude is just as much delusional.

I see that I've struck a nerve, sometimes I forget that the only way to survive as a NEET is to be intellectually dishonest with oneself when faced with the reality that life seems hopeless, but I can assure you that it is not hopeless... That is why I will pray for you before I go to sleep tonight my brothers. I love you all.

But how will you survive?

I survived 11 years so far
>Makes post
>Gets replies
>"I SEE I'VE STRUCK A NERVE LOL"
Are you retarded?

So this is a weird comment, it's like pathological denial. I asked you what you think what might be considered differences and you've shut down and repeated your position. I can only assume you have, in the past, heard things from my side, so you have heard what some of those differences are.

Your point that we sell our bodies is incorrect, even prostitutes don't literally "sell their bodies", it's a flowery little euphemism. What it means is that they perform sex acts in exchange for money. What you're saying (at the heart of it) is that both prostitutes and workers perform acts in exchange for money which is true of almost anyone who gets paid, it's possibly the most platitudinous comparison you could make.

>A negative attitude is just as much delusional.
Pessimism isn't negativity. Go back to school.

I am reminded of that time when I was rejected from the lowest of the low jobs which I had applied for online, it was at this moment when my self-esteem hit an all time low... I was less than human, I thought at the time. It really does suck when nobody wants to take a chance on a liability just because of a large gap in your work history. Somebody who recognises your pain will take that risk, and you will have a new lease on life. Good luck out there, brotherman.

Here's the problem with the people who spit "wagecuck". Life is predicated on work. To put it in perspective, imagine you lived in a tribe. If you didn't work to get your food, you would die. In modern societies, people have become soft and lenient, though resentful, of people who do not work. They see them as what they are things lower than parasites. I don't care if you want to live your life the way you want, but this mentality that working for money is equivalent to prostitution is nonsense.

I didn't think it was possible to clutch at straws this fucking hard

>I am reminded of that time when I was rejected from the lowest of the low jobs which I had applied for online, it was at this moment when my self-esteem hit an all time low.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What the fuck is wrong with you? Why is your self esteem affected by your desirability for wage slaving?

>I survived 11 years so far
So do your parents support you or are you on some sort of welfare?
Will your parents be willing to support you for the rest of your days?

Sure dude, that's what's happening.
youtu.be/f17b8m5fniU

>Life is predicated on work.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

STOP YOU'RE KILLING ME

>DUDE JUST "SURVIVE" FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS LMAO
lmaoing @ your pathetic worm-like existence
all you have is dirt to chew on in the darkness that blinds you
this is what your childlike concept of living in the moment, munching on that dirt, has granted you... reap what you sow and all that

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>imagine you lived in a tribe
You could live on your own, hunt and eat what you need, or you could kill the men of a tribe take their stuff and rape their women.
As a true man.

He's not wrong though. You have to mix your work with the world to take ownership of things and survive.
t. Locke.

Where's your argument? You sound like you're in denial.

Wagie wagie, in his cagie
All day long, wagie ragie
Ragie wagie why so mad?
Ragie wagie why so sad?

Yes, I suppose you could do some of those things, but it still requires work.

not an argument :d

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>He thinks this is what married life is like
>He uses an instagram video as proof

That webm is so pure and so nourishing for my soul. Thank you user.

Not him but, it's not like you are living "the life", you are not some Chad who works in a bar talking shit with people and fucking a hot thot every day.
You are most likelly an office worm who constantly thinks about suicide and copes with his life by buying useless commercial products that the corporations shill to you.

>it's not like you are living "the life", you are not some Chad who works in a bar talking shit with people and fucking a hot thot every day.
youtube.com/watch?v=CNvf7jEno60
Don't base your life on Cocktail m80, never ends well.

Exept, assuming that you even have a wife/gf, she most likelly looks something like pic related and never wanted to have kids because that is oppressive and misogynistic.

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The reality is if you are somehow independently wealthy and can flip everyone the bird than the NEET life is best. But if you are living at the expense of someone else than it starts to gnaw at you.

youtu.be/ZZWvgEOoV3U

It's also indicative of a good few other mental disorders, adolescence, and being in an abusive relationship. Learn to fucking think at least before you try playing e-doctor Jesus Christ dude.

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And what is that "higher purpose" user? I smell a dogwhistle.

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>Oh and the bird thing was supposed to be profound, and it was.

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>and being in an abusive relationship
Does it often happen that someone gets like that through having a close friendship/relationship with someone with NPD?

I'm asking because an ex seemed to do stuff that bordered on abusive that fit NPD or similar, she was a bit vulnerable and had a close friendship with a guy who I'm pretty sure has NPD.

Not who you replied to, but antinatalists do have a point. It's just that their fear of the unknown is greater than the unhappiness that is living.

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I wouldn't call OP an antinatalist as some of his arguments belie what I at least think he's undergoing.

I'm OP and I'm an antinatalist

Why don't you kys then? Otherwise you're a LARPER.

>that pic
The person who made it seems to imply that you need an iphone or a new car to survive in society.

>Why don't you kys then?
Why would I kill myself?

OK. I still don't think that's your major problem.

>The person who made it seems to imply that you need an iphone or a new car to survive in society.
I don't think you get the comic at all buddy. At the very least you should know that the car thing is in the past, like the 50s.

Lmao
Why would you care about the well being of your progeny? Just breed for the fun of it.
There is no reason not to, but you probably just aren't capable of having sex.

You don't really need one, you can use public transportation, you aren't going to die without it.

Because Antinatalists believe that life's continued existence is worse than non-existence. Non-existence is death, therefore to end your own continued suffering one should kill themselves.

>Why would you care about the well being of your progeny? Just breed for the fun of it.
It's cruel, pointless and a burden.
>There is no reason not to
There's a million reasons not to, scum.

I don't think I have a problem

It's still not the point of the comic and I'm not sure why you think it is.

>I generally find the whole social game purposeless because life and SOCIETY feels so meaningless and boring.

Mainly because you have a constantly available mother who will always feed you and keep you warm if shit goes wrong. Because of this, there's no real point to actively participating, and you'll persist to be a little mommy's boy until you reject her, and become truly independent. Why would a child want to raise children?

>I don't think I have a problem
Potato, potato?

>Because Antinatalists believe that life's continued existence is worse than non-existence
No, I believe NEW life is cruel to create.

Holy fuck the point is that pointing out hypocrisy isn't the slam dunk argument ender that you think it is. People can smoke and still say "Smoking is bad".

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>He thinks that existence must be constantly bliss to be valid
>He doesn't realise that the strife between bouts of bliss give their value

>Why would a child want to raise children?

Also this applies to all anti-natalists

>There's a million reasons not to, scum.
Why would you "care" about the pain of someone who isn't you?

Because I have empathy and it's in my power not to create life

>People can smoke and still say "Smoking is bad".
And they would be still retards if they did so.

because he's not a baby and realises that other people have feelings too you insufferable mong, please kill yourself

Nah i don't think you have that "power"

>other people have feelings too
So does a bug or a cow, why should one care though?

>He thinks that existence must be constantly bliss to be valid
Never said that. But the effort required is not worth the reward when it comes to a job/family. It's like a business that never turns a profit, even if some days you break even.
>He doesn't realise that the strife between bouts of bliss give their value
God pull your head out of your ass and stop watching movies. Pointless suffering doesn't give meaning to anything.

YES THEY WOULD. But the goddamn point they are trying to make, that smoking is bad, is still legitimate. So blowing over the statement because the person who is saying it is a retard makes you retarded as well. Scrutinize the statement, not the person.

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because causing pointless harm to the world means that everything suffers more. In essence you're no better than e-coli, ie you should be just scrubbed from the gene pool.

Are you brain damaged?

I'm a man, I can create life with a woman if I chose. It's not hard to find a woman to breed with.

You mean you have the choice to not make life. That power can be taken from you at any time and any place. unlikely scenarios can happen. A woman could rape you and give birth to your offspring. Unless you castrate yourself. Then you physically couldn't make life.

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It might be possible, but I wouldn't put much stock in her being a pure yet corrupted angel user.

If one smokes while knowing the negative effects of it, it is probably because in his mind on some level he thinks that the pleasure of smoking outweighs the benefits of not smoking, a shorter but more pleasureful life.
If he said to others that smoking is bad, he is a fucking hypocrite and his opinion doesn't matter.
Same thing goes for "living in a society".

I doubt that you could find one, and you subscribe to such philosophy because you are a loser.

>never turns a profit
>he thinks that having well raised kids can't turn a profit
user did you know that raising kids will has historically been one of the most profitable endeavours one can indulge in?

>Pointless suffering doesn't give meaning to anything.
Yeah this doesn't have any meaning when the person your arguing with doesn't think the suffering you're talking about is pointless

>because causing pointless harm to the world means that everything suffers more
But if i kill the cow, i can increase my pleasure not only by killing her but also by eating her meat.

which in that case isn't pointless harm, isn't it?

lmao
how the fuck could a woman rape a man?
even assuming that she is bigger and stronger, if he gets a boner he is basically giving his consent.

Holy shit, did you just gloss over what I wrote? How does the smoker who says that smoking is bad invalidate the statement that smoking is bad? There is plenty of living examples of how smoking can give you an increased chance of lung cancer, shortness of breath, and other life debilitating symptoms. Just because the person who tells you that it is bad is holding a fag in his hand DOESN"T INVALIDATE THE RESEARCH. IT MEANS HE"S A RETARD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH.

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But i can feel pleasure by killing random things, the act in itself is pleasureful.

>if he gets a boner he is basically giving his consent.
lmao

>but the internet told me if she gets wet it isn't rape your honor, please don't send me to prison

What's your point?

Do you think having some obscure esoteric opinion makes you cool?

Read my post again.

That there is a refutation that you have power over your ability to give life. There are situations where even though you choose not to create it, you can still DO it.

>and you subscribe to such philosophy because you are a loser.
No, it's because I'm not a selfish, cruel piece of shit like you who has nothing to be proud of in life and thinks fathering a child will mean something. It won't, thousands of garbage people like you breed every day and you're still garbage after the baby arrives.

Killing random things is pointless harm. Hunting animals for game or otherwise rearing them for consumption is not, and is the foundation of society as we know it.

yes it gives life meaning, it makes you different from the masses and thus gives you some sort of value (though not in the mind of the masses).

>Killing random things is pointless harm
it is pleasureful
is pleasure pointless?
What is the point of anything anyway?

I wasn't talking about money

*npc-rogan.jpg*
>just keep on being productive boys
>you gotta work
*crying-sojak-rogan.jpeg*
>NO! YOU CAN'T REFUSE WORK! YOU CAN'T! IDLENESS WILL NOT HELP FEED THE HUMAN SECURITY SYSTEM!

it's only pleasureful if you're a fucking psychopath, and if you didn't know, large portions of our society are dedicated to rooting out and removing psychopaths from society. Just like the body removes toxins from the body by shitting.

>having a family isn't profitable
>yes it is
>yeah well I wasn't actually talking about profit

I don't think that having kids will give me value, and i don't give a shit about "value", i enjoy fucking and the idea of having a woman raise my genetic progeny. Life in itself can be pleasureful if you are a genetic winner, but if you are a loser then it is justice for you to suffer and die asap.
If one of my kids is weak or deformed i will kill him with my own hands, such life is indeed not worth living. But a Chad son, he will have a pleasureful life that is worth living.

No not really, most people on top of society are psychopaths, and the morals of the heard doesn't concerne me.
You need to find a logical reason as to why someone should care about """useless pain"""".

Okay, the smoker's statement "Smoking is bad" is true. What the smoker omitted is that "However, I hold the negative effects of smoking higher than my personal health". How can you quantify the benefits and negative effects of living in a society and not living in a society? If you could bring quantifiable information to the table, then we could talk about backing our opinions of living in a society being good or bad. Otherwise, the entirety of this thread saying durr be positive, or hurr be negative is nothing more than puffery.

consider the bacteria that kills hundreds of people. Compare it to the psychopath. Both cause unnecessary harm, but invariably both are purged from the greater ecosystem of life.

>No not really, most people on top of society are psychopaths
You believe this with no actual evidence, grats on basing your worldview off delusion. Examine yourself before arguing your cases more, please.

>You need to find a logical reason as to why someone should care about """useless pain"""".
Because reality is the only thing we can come close to proving is real, therefore there's no reason to make the other people we encounter within it suffer.

based and birdpilled

If you accept that suffering is real, and continue to gleefully create it, then you're not much more than a bugged program, and would make a great case in point for the reintroduction of live guillotine testing.
Why?
Because pointless suffering is bad. But watching people that enjoy pointless suffering isn't pointless, in fact being actually productive. So just so it's clear, killing people that enjoy pointless suffering is a productive act.

>but invariably both are purged from the greater ecosystem of life.
You have no evidence for this.
But we do know that the people who are successful in life don't give a fuck about other people and animals wellbeing. This is exactly why they are win.

>therefore there's no reason to make the other people we encounter within it suffer.
You aren't giving any reason.
Where is the argument?

>Projecting xDDD

My argument is that the smoker accepts the negative effects of smoking because on some level he enjoys it enugh to not care about a shorter life span.
In regards to the pic, the people who complain about problems in society do it while participating in society and fueling the economy, because on some level they don't really give a fuck about the negative consequences of their consumption. All they are doing is virtue signaling, which i find disgusting and pathetic.
The only person from who i would accept a critique of society is someone who moved away from it, because he or she thinks that the moral side effects are more damaging and relevant than the hedonistic pleasure of consumtion.

>Where is the argument?
Not him but the argument is suffering is never wanted so why force it on someone.

>You have no evidence for this.
>what is the elimination of the bubonic plague
>what is the invention of penicillin
>what is the execution of mass murderers

>But we do know that the people who are successful in life don't give a fuck about other people and animals wellbeing.
>What is the Dalai Lama
>Who is Marcus Aurelius
>Who is Abraham Lincoln

I'll take "some of the most heartfelt and successful people that have ever existed" please

Also bear in mind that the large majority of hyper-successful people got there, even if they have committed evil acts, by having a NET-POSITIVE affect on the world around them

Because i don't care about how they feel or what they want?

Because you're a fucking psycho and trying to argue you out of it is a fruitless charity on my end when it'd be much better several pellets of 00 smashed through your skull and saved everyone the trouble

Then why even have a child? For what possible reason?

>>what is the elimination of the bubonic plague
>>what is the invention of penicillin
>>what is the execution of mass murderers
Those are eliminations of illnesses, you moron i was refering to the supposed elimination of psychopaths or people who don't give a shit about the feefees of others. For which you have no evidence.

>What is the Dalai Lama
>Who is Marcus Aurelius
>Who is Abraham Lincoln
3 people out of the hundreds of thousands who had and have power in society.
I suppose that in the mind of a retard that has some statistical relevance.

>much better several pellets of 00 smashed through your skull and saved everyone the trouble
Woah, so you also don't seem to care about what others want and their suffering.

Because i find it pleasureful?

Well, you don't sound happy to me.

>what is the execution of mass murderers
>elimination of illness

thanks for proving that you you can't read

>3 people out of the hundreds of thousands who had and have power in society.
asking someone that catagorically name every non-psychopathic person in power throughout history for their argument may well be the greatest shift in goalposts the world has ever seen. Bravo.

I do. Removing people that enjoy pointless suffering is a benefit everyone that doesn't.

Thanks for making it clear that you're too dense to understand basic points without having it explained to you.

>Person who lives in society delivers a argument that there are certain parts of society that could do with some reworking.
Nah nah man, that's some bullshit. your argument is destroyed because you're nothing more than a hypocrite and a two-faced mealy mouthed guttersnipe.
>Person who is a hermit from cradle to grave delivers a argument that there are certain parts of society that could do with some reworking.
Bravo! Bravo! Truly this man is a enlightened individual, he has something to say about society! his argument is correct, and we should rework what he has said!
What if both people said the same statement about society? You CAN paint a target on a person, but using that target to shoot down the argument is just grabbing at low hanging fruit. If you said : yes, the man who lives in societies critique is correct, but he is nothing more than a decrepit virtue signaler. And that the hermit's critique on society is also correct, and I respect him as an individual because he practices what he preaches. Then we would both concur on the same thing.

>Because i find it pleasureful?
What specifically is pleasurable about having a child you don't care about?

>>what is the execution of mass murderers
Yeah i haven't noticed that, but the successful mass murderes become soldiers or military leaders.

>Removing people that enjoy pointless suffering is a benefit everyone that doesn't.
Because you enjoy the suffering of others, but you need to pretend that you are doing it for some other cause.

HAHAHA good luck getting into the military after you've murdered thirty people.

Also, soldiers that kill the enemy are productive, and aren't causing suffering for no reason. Fuck off.

I would address your point with a logical rebuttal based on examples but you misspelled *you're

FAGGOT AHAHAHAHA

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>but you need to pretend that you are doing it for some other cause.
Actually I don't enjoy the thought of blowing my friends' heads off. Or random people. Because I'm not a psycho.

In having the child

>but I wouldn't put much stock in her being a pure yet corrupted angel user.
Interesting response, but wouldn't worry about that, her refusal to buck up and sort some of her nonsense out was why I broke up with her. It was more a weird thing that's been a little confusing and hard to process, the guy showed some nasty behaviours but was generally fairly genial if a bit weird wasn't sure if that was maybe because in the background she was abusing him (which I found unlikely, but for 2 NPDs to be extreme codependent friends also seems unlikely), or if the almost abuse towards me was like a trickle down from him if you see what I mean.

She's tried to get back into my life a couple of times now after ghosting me, I've just ignored her. I have heard she's single again so I expect another attempt in the next couple of months. I'm tempted to let her in, but I don't want to be in this sort of bollocks again:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle

user confirms that he enjoys being pregnant

If you have the desire to kill people and you are smart about it, you just go in the military.
>are productive
For what? To make your fucking fuel cheaper, what a fucking retard.

youtube.com/watch?v=J-H2mZJ-D3A

>the only way to breed is to be inseminated

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based retard advocating for godless defeatist life style

do retards think being a angsty nihilist is based ?

>but you misspelled *you're
No he didn't you drooling moron

Everyone is the other and no one is himself.
-Heidegger

>For what? To make your fucking fuel cheaper
Well you've just proven my point there. Have you noticed that unethical wars are denounced by the public though user? Have you heard, that America lost a war with Vietnam because of public outcry against the unnecessary suffering it was causing?

Did you know, that sometimes nations need to go to war to prevent another nation from stealing their land and raping their women?

Shocking revelations, I know, but sometimes you need an organised group of men that are willing to kill people that are willing to kill their wives to protect your country!

What a revelation, eh?

>he took the bait

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>the conditions of chinese workers who produce apple products are horrible
>btw i post this with my iphone tee hee
How am i supposed to take similar arguments seriously?
Even though what the person is saying is true, it just shows that what he/she is saying is bs and that they don't actually care about it. Or they wouldn't by the product.
Same goes for the retard who bought the car without the seat belt.
And these products aren't necessary for survival.
The argument is retarded because the person who is saying it doesn't really care, their complain is pointless virtue signaling.
>And that the hermit's critique on society is also correct
It isn't the same thing, because if you criticize something but then finance it, you are a mongoloid.

>I-I was merely pretending to be retarded!

You know she's not good for you. Listen to that feeling with all you have bud. Block numbers, social media, etc. Do what you gotta do to snip that shit out.

Most wars in history were not in self defence.

>OP opens with an ad hominem
>45 Yea Forumsitzens are so intrigued they turn this into a discussion

Why not simply sage?

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>How am i supposed to take similar arguments seriously?
By using your thinking brain and not your feeling brain and judging the arguments on their merits and not on the merits of the person presenting them.

>Even though what the person is saying is true
No, stop here. Don't keep writing after this. What the person is saying is true.

It's pre-emptive self defence.

The way he brings up a challenge that a lot of people have with the social condition and the way you start to project is kind of amusing, but you're probably in this for the (you)'s anyway.

Bumping so this garbo thread can finally hit bump limit and then leave the catalog.

do coke then tell me happiness is reliable

>A bird doesn't look at a human and think "shiiiiiieeeet he's walking the FUCK out of that road".
If you’re right they’re missing out

>AD HOMINEM LOGICAL FALLACY OH MY FUCKING GOD DO YOU EVEN HAVE AN ARGUMENT LOGICAL FALLACY AD HOMINEM OH MY GOD

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This isn't even a literature related post. Fuck off to /r9k/, brainlets.
This. The ad hominem/strawman posts always manage to get 300 replies, especially with a soi-jak image attached. These people need to not be so easily baited.

Actually, you'll find the ratio of defenders to invaders throughout history to be roughly 50/50. This is mainly because if you attack another nation, it will defend itself. If it doesn't, then it's not a war.

You'll also find if you see a doctor that you have serious learning disabilities.

Don't worry bro, I'll make a Part 2 thread as soon as it dies : )

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THERE ARE BAD RHINGS IN LIFE HOW CAN ANYONE DECISE TO BE HAPPY IN A WORKS LIKE THIS?!

>strawman
Are you a drone? Is this how you justify your own delusional ideology? You insert imaginary words into the mouths of other people, convince yourself that they actually said those made-up words, and you think that YOU are the rational one? Re-evaluate your life.

You are definitely the caliber of poster I would expect in a thread like this.

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>it will defend itself. If it doesn't, then it's not a war
>if someone kills you but you don't try to defend yourself that isn't murder

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>bro like just read durkheim like we are all products of our environment bro theres nothing i can do society made me this way cut it out with the positivity and let me watch jojo's in peace bro

>what that person is doing is bad and wrong, but i finance it
m'kay

Society and genetic factors

>He doesn't know what annexation is
>He doesn't know that sometimes nations willingly submit to exterior governence for a relative net-gain as opposed to war
>He thinks that war in itself has to always involve completely eradicating the enemy
>He doesn't know what surrender is
>He doesn't know that nations typically don't ethnically cleanse the countries they annex

DEAR LORD YOUR BRAIN IS SO SMALL

Yes, that's correct.

well yeah that would be assisted suicide. one major way you would forensically distinguish a murder-suicide from a suicide pact is from the presence of defense wounds.

>i have slaves in my house, by the way slavery is wrong

That doesn't apply to the majority of the wars of conquest in human history.

It would only if the person wants it, but if you kill someone without their consent who isn't though capable of defending themselves due to being weak that is still murder.

If the majority of wars of conquest didn't have defenders versus the opposing force, then they would simply be expansions.

At this point you're just schizo-posting because you can't argue against the main points bought up earlier anyway, so I'm gonna tap out in the light that you already look like a fucking idiot

my genetically unalterable traits are only undesirable because of white supremacist beauty and behavior standards

Yes, that's correct.

You can keep saying retarded shit for as long as you want. Arguments are correct or incorrect wholly independent of the people who espouse them. That's not to say that people or their behaviour are unimportant. Often, as you have identified, their behaviour is more important than their arguments and beliefs. I'd argue that what you do is usually more important than what you say. But what you do is what you do, and what you say is what you say, and what you say can be correct independent of what you do.

We're all only human, after all. Failing to live up to your values is the most human thing there is.

Can you explain to me what a pessimist does if not be a depressed loser? Just because you have copes doesn’t make you less of a depressed loser. Before you say
>depressed loser is just like your opinion man
Yea my opinion of depressed loser is the common well known one. So do you live a typical depressed loser life or not. “Hanging out” with friends while pretending to enjoy it doesn’t count, and if you do actually enjoy life, what makes you a pessimist?