What do bugmen read?

The full phrase was "small-souled bugmen" and its meaning was closer to Nietzsche's Lastman than simply referring to a worker-drone.

Anything on the front page of goodreads or the NYT best seller list

You forgot Game of Thrones.

>Fichte
>Tolstoy
>Epicurus
>Translations by the Muirs
>Nonfiction

Fuck, that last paragraph is relatable. I'm too nerdy to relate to normies, but the "nerdy" crowd most just talks about GoT and Marvel, and wears "geek chic" as a fashion statement.

The only reason I'm still here is because it's the only place I can find people to talk about the things I'm actually interested in.

Since when do normies and sois read Russian literature?

Fire and fury is a book about trump

is she mommy gf to all of them? damm imagine some semi dominant chick collecting these softer males for some kind of polyandrous relationship
like having pets and having them be friendly with each other

Are these the Chapo faggots

This. It’s all masochistic political shit that feeds their cuckold/autogynephilic fetishes.

Whatever you’re reading

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Chinks are insectoids now, get with the times gramps

Your threads

cringe

A mostly accurate list, but bugmen don't have the attention span required for Dostoevsky and they're certainly not on board with the criticism of the tyranny of the masses in Fahrenheit 451.

>What series are you watching, user?
>None, I don't have Netflix.

Every single Goddamn week.

...

Anything that is a New York Times' bestseller, Oprah sticker books, Freakonomics, 12 Rules for Life , Hunger Games (dystopian, child sacrifice sub-genre), Lord of the Flies, some Lovecraft, Art of War, etc...

Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Is it onions to read Orwell's nonfiction

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They don't read Orwell, Bradbury, and Dostoevsky. Orwell's too sexist for them, and reading Dostoyevsky is too elitist to them. Bradbury they just don't give a shit about.

Remove 1984 and Crime and Punishment

Found the bugman

>user, you have to watch x, it's sooo good
>my favorite show is y, user, you should really watch it and tell me what you think
like a child coming up to me and showing me a drawing they made thats absolute dogshit, but they really really did try their best to make it and they want so badly for you to approve of it, so you tell them its great and they're satisfied and go away. but with adults, its different. they've spent they're entire lives watching tv shows, and on these tv shows, the coolest people are the people who know about all the cool niche tv shows. so they learn that in order to be cool, and validated, they have to find the best tv shows or movies and tell everyone about them. they speak in almost nothing but tv show and movie references.

>1984
>Fahrenheit 451
>Crime and Punishment
Now you're getting ridiculous with the contrarianism. These kinds of bugmen read these books for high school, at best. They internalize none of the poignancy or purpose of them. Especially Fahrenheit 451. Bugmen and soibois are the biggest proponents of removing offensive literature from the culture, and promoting mass consumption of entertainment.

>1984
>Fahrenheit 451
>crime and punishment
imagine reading books written by dead white guys

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>Webcomics about trans people
>articles about representation in media
>Vice
>Lin Manuel Miranda's Twitter feed
>video essays

Ballard, Pound, Petrarch, Aquinas, Hobbes, Pynchon, House of Leaves, Bradbury, Vance, Hammet, Rowling, Martin, Land, Zizek, Kant, Burroughs, Faulkner, Gogol, Lem, Fitzgerald, Schopenhauer, Mann, Maugham, Proust, Woolf, Bukowski, Brautigan, the list goes on

>Catcher in the rye
>Catch 22

Ya, but they think its about, "redemption being found through suffering and penance".

cringe

Once i heard some "philosophy students" talking about dostoievsky. One was reccomending it, and the other simply answered "i don't read dostoievsly because he attacked the communists"

Ready Player One
novelizations of Reddit threads

>>Fahrenheit 451
kek. fuck bradbury. he's a dumb cunt, and so are his fans.

and no, the short story collections are not any better than that flaming heap of garbage.

>harry potter when they were a kid
>reddit

Damn I know that feel. I'm a nerd but I fucking hate nerds. How do you even have a conversation with someone about a piece of entertainment you both enjoy?
>I like super metroid
>heh, me too
>...

Luckily I'm not offensively weird so I've got a lot of normie friends too. I dont know anything about any of the movies/music/books they like tho

>handmaid's tale
definitely
>fire and fury
hell no, they'd never touch anything about World War I they don't even know it happened.
>Harry Potter
bugcore, no message except friendship is good and evil is bad
>Fahrenheit 451
Butmen will read this because they're "supposed to" and then will unironically participate in a book banning or burning
>Crime and Punishment
lol no, way too long and way too obtuse.

They unironically support a farenheit 451 view of information- censor anything and everything that could possibly be seen as offensive.

Assuming they actually read it they probably just think it's about the religious right or whatever 20 year old facsimile of their opposition breadtube told them to hate this week like they do with 1984

The first book ruined by its fanbase.

A ton of people think 1984 is synonymous with "anything my political opponents do that I dont like". 1984 comparisons are thrown around liberally with reckless abandon by boomers, left and right. I dont really notice your stereotypical 25-35 year old bugman making 1984 comparisons, thankfully

Just call them numales, asians are bugmen
Related to Harry Potter they also read the hunger games
They’ll probably have read some very short things like the great gatsby and the old man and he sea when they were in school
Stephen King and Lovecraft for ‘horror’
Maybe some Gibson if they’re going to read sci-fi
They’d watch it not read it, the books wouldn’t be feminist enough for them, and all the underage girls getting fucked would make them uncomfortable
They’re fatter than OP’s

>he doesn’t know how even the original Sherlock Holmes audience was so autistic that they bullied Doyle into making more after he killed off the character because he didn’t want to write it anymore

>Imagine not identifying literature with their originating culture
>White bad

I cannat ivin bigin with you, goyim.

id say that was the bible

lol at all the
>t-they don't read dostoevsky!!
in this thread, as if dostoevsky isn't like the legit go-to "highbrow" author

Stop muddling the terms.

Say 501601 like everybody else. It's apposite.

>>harry potter

that right fucking there

What's wrong with Crime and Punishment?

>brown hair
>white
Nice try medishit

Dosto is for soys who want to look intelligent or deep. This doesn't mean Dosto himself is onions

same with brave new world, 1984, and Fahrenheit 451

Evola, guenon, primitive bomb man, marx, the list goes on...

>they speak in almost nothing but tv show and movie reference
Indeed. Throwing some thoughts as they come.

It's like the rest of reference in history stopped existing.
It's like you need references to live your life.
Nobody lives anymore.
And not only references are only those but they change fast. We're in a superspeed loop in which one reference replaces the other, just like a phone replaces another or a girl changes a boyfriend after another.
Consumerism really destroyed us to the bone, infiltrated our way of thinking and behaving.
Let's use that flaw and use the star trek episode where Picard can't understand the other dude. He can't because they don't have the same references and they only communicate through those references. We're heading there.

It's hard to keep up with trends, series, movies, comics, manga, whatever. I used to. I spent ten years of my life watching every show, every season, and that allowed me to talk to people who like me lived outside their lives. Lived through other people themselves acting and posing as characters.

I went cold turkey on series and tv. I stopped watching YouTube, I started opening my books and started cooking, cleaning my flat, making shelves.
It's not as thrilling but it's somehow more real.

At work I try to get into groups and listen to what they say. They talk series, they talk games. I've left that world. The whole Plato's cavern seems abstract until now. It's not. It's very real.

Sorry for the long post.

have sex

A soiboi is not a bugman, and a bugman is not a soiboi

cringe

I think at some point you kind of realize how shallow most media is. I used to watch a lot of series and play a lot of video games, but I've started to lose interest. After a while you've kind of seen all the tropes. I find myself surprisingly often being able to predict lines of dialogue in films/tv, and I've never been interested in writing.

These days I'd rather end an evening with doing the dishes and cleaning the stove than watch an episode of a hyped up tv series...

Is bugmen just a word for people /pol/ doesn't like? Like every time someone posts bugmen or soiboys it's bunch of young adults smiling. I don't get get, can someone explain it to me?

I think it's just that true masterpieces are rare, and if it's not at least a 9/10 in terms of quality, then it's not worth my time. I also can predict a lot of fiction on a scene by scene basis, so a lot of fiction is just tiring to me. The stage I'm at is trying to find those few great works in every medium that fill me with the same wonder and awe that fiction gave me as a kid.

To sum it up, if you asked me to name my top 3 in any medium I could do it easily, but if you were to ask me for my top 10 I'd struggle, because I'm not sure there are 10 things from each medium that I truly cherish.

The original idea is that a bugman is somebody who is nearly completely devoid of culture, and to compensate they would gravitate to media that gives them a vapid sense of meaning. Though people usually just use it as another buzzword insult.

What a take

A bugman is someone with no sense of historical depth or embeddedness in any community or identity other than communities of consumption based around experiences of consumption (particularly watching movies, and to a lesser extent playing games and drinking beer). They're characterised by extreme social conformity, low testosterone, emotional instability, lack of awareness about the dynamics of their society, and lack of accomplishment in the sense of changing the world. They are basically demasculinised men.
They resemble colonial insects, with no sense of the broader functioning of the hive, and no desire except to obey. They also work in social organisms similar to colonies, like corporations.
They signal their lack of danger all the time, including through the goofy open mouthed expression, which can be opposed to 19th and early 20th century photos wherein the people wear a neutral aspect.
They are people with shame but not dignity. They're the type of person who would wear a mandatory google dunce cap.
The identitylessness/substitute identities are largely confined to white people.

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I don't see any books mentioned by the bugmen on twitter. I occassionally check the account of this bugman I once met as a window into that world, and this is all I see.

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Why does he share all those thoughts?
He could keep them for himself.

Especially the hot dog part.

>"It is because of speech that men give the illusion of being free. If they did—without a word—what they do, wewould take them for robots. By speaking, they deceive themselves, as they deceive others: because they say what they are going to do, who could suspect they are not masters of their actions?"

Holy fuck this cunt is retarded, He’s literally talking to himself

This shit makes me so sad. At least maybe his family is reading the tweets? I used to work with this aging "woke" hipster faggot, and I started checking his twitter once in a while, and he'd tweet reddity shit like 30 fucking times a day as if he had lots of hipster friends. Lame little jokes and gifs relating to the Netflix shows he's watching or his reactions to the latest news. The kinds of jokeless references and shit you'd expect a normie to find funny, except no one was ever reacting to it. He was just shouting into a void. I guess that's what the lowest-ranked members in normie world do? They don't even get little normie friends, they have to talk to themselves on Twitter forever I thought the whole point of being a pathetic normie was that you at least get some friends?

I really wonder what these people are going to look like as they age. This guy was mid-thirties but he had the personality of a 23 year old reddit user. Except he wasn't even into anything weird, he was a factory-stamped boring normal attention-seeking woke hipster. How does that personality type transition into middle and old age? What's he going to do for another fifty years? Keep fucking tweeting?

>go check his twitter for the first time in 3 years
>last 20 tweets
>"In latest news: This guy rocks." re: some gay youtube shit where a guy reviews trinkets (no responses)
>dumb jokes with dumb gifs (no responses)
>simpsons gif with dumb joke relating to his life (no responses)
>random thoughts had throughout the day, phrased zanily (no responses)
>random thoughts about pop culture like "[Actor] and [actor] in [some remake]. Make. This. Happen." (no responses)
>random thoughts on season 6 of some netflix show nobody watches (no responses)

He's been going at it, exactly the same, for the entire 3 years since I last saw him?

I suspect people to use Twitter as a diary.
>Dear diary, today I ate a hot dog. It was pretty good. See you tomorrow!
Or as a letter to a dead one
>Dear little brother, today I ate a hot dog, it almost slipped through and I grabbed it back, impressive reflexes huh ? But after that my hand was mustardy ahaha... I miss you. See you tomorrow.

Either way, I'm not even sure responding to them would be a good idea. It's like giving fuel to a delusional machine. Which is what we do nowadays though.

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So they abandon one cope for another. Got it.

>especially for its time
you heathen

>no sense of historical depth

As in, no idea about history, or not identifying with the history of their original community?

>embeddedness in any community

Is it different from the way incels and other social pariahs are not embedded in communities?

>other than communities of consumption based around experiences of consumption

If I read Plotinus, and say that I'm a neoplatonist, am I basing my identity around the books I consume, or are ideologies/currents of thought in general different in that regard?

> lack of accomplishment in the sense of changing the world

How does one go about doing that in this day and age?

I'm not particularly embedded in my community, and I don't really identify with my national identity in ways other than grouping people and cultural currents into native and foreign elements ( whose influx I obviously resist because it puts me and my community at a disadvantage if I didn't do so ), but I don't enjoy bugman activities either. Could you clarify these points a bit?

what compels people like this to keep posting their retarded garbage other people are obviously not into?

i'll never understand normies. they're honest to god npcs. i get uncanny valley creeps just being around them. it's like a robot trying to be a person, but it just isn't, and you can't put a finger on what exactly is wrong about them. i'd feel more comfortable in a room full of serial killers than a room full of npcs.
>putting your diary on the internet, under your real name, for anyone and everyone to read
that's even worse.

>posts on Yea Forums
>can't read and understand three consecutive words

Classic

I think this is mainly an issue with recent western or American media. There are still some great films that are worth time. Tarkovsky and Godard, for example. Or, maybe the issue is identifying too much with it. If you watch a film, enjoy it, learn from it, and move on it's not so bad. However, if you fall into some identity trap (which is what major studios want you to do), you end up wanting to be like a fictional character, or buying toys and posters.

If you want my opinion, it actually has a lot to do with criticism of fiction valuing the political message behind fiction above all else. Few critics have a sense of aesthetics or an appreciation for the craftsmanship behind fiction. Instead, all that's evaluated is what political statements are made (see for example how the discussion around Captain Marvel became a meta debate relating to gender politics rather than an evaluation of the film's actual components). It's quite appropriate you mentioned Godard, as I feel his films highlight this difference plainly. Godard has a clear political agenda in his films and beats you over the head with it, but Godard's films also show a firm understanding of cinematography that give his films both a sense of style and thus another layer potential layer of enjoyment.

Oscar Wilde was right. Art is ruined when it concerns itself too strongly with politics at the expense of everything else.

I think you are correct, however, most things can be extrapolated into the realm of the political, if one tries hard enough. I have not seen Captain Marvel, but I can assume it was not a political film, but instead, one about female power. However, the idea of female power is broad enough that it can be made political. I'm sure some films are overly political, but anything can be if one wants it to be.

You're right, but I think it says a lot about our political culture that the audience seeks to make everything political.

>all these anons posting lovecraft
wouldn’t basedboys hate him because of his “problematic” views? His stories are constantly filled with passages talking about dirty savages bringing about the doom of the world and how it’s up to the educated white men to stop them

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>He has a party with his friends where they eat tacos and watch tv
I'm pretty jealous to be honest

That's the "official" interpretation of the book. What do you think it is about?
t. have not gotten to it yet

Did you just complain that everyone speaks in reference to tv, film and media and then use a reference from star trek to get your point across? Lol

itt:
losers trying to burn other losers

You sure burned us.
Faggot.