I'm finally set on killing myself, I'll be getting amitriptyline by tomorrow morning so I'll hopefully be gone by this hour. I honestly don't know this shit board very much but I started reading few weeks ago so I've just been hanging out, I guess.
I want to be at least a bit comfy so what do you recommend I do?
I'm finally set on killing myself...
don't do it fren ;__;
do it faggot!
shut up fag.
Read comfy stories like "The sound of waves" and "Snow Country" and then just appreciate life for its beauty, just completely devote your life to appreciating beauty.
Please call someone close to you, your life is more important than you think
read Huysmans "against nature" before you off yourself
A-user! Stop messing with us!
Suicide is a symptom of low testosterone.
Don‘t do it, it‘s not worth it.
I won't be able to let you think otherwise, but a book might. The Dream of a Ridiculous Man by Dostojevski.
Before you off yourself. I want you to tell me what was the saddest/worst moment in your life and what was the most beautiful moment in your life.
I don't really care if you kill yourself or not but I want to know what the pain threshold is between me and someone who kills themselves.
I'm right behind you
>I started reading few weeks ago
never going to make it
rethink it
If you're 80 then whatever, you probably get the gist of it by now. Otherwise, don't do it. I can't lay great claim to suffering, but I've lost more friends to suicide then I've had women fuck me, if there's any humor in that for you. Really I don't have an argument though; I'm just asking you nicely not to do it.
>writing this post
>text box spontaneously gets moved underneath an ad, where I can't hit submit
>have to rewrite it
I don't know if it counts but I've shared though whatsapp that I literally was going to kill myself, as to not seem like a joke, I showed pics of some pills of antidepressants I've been taking and that I've left everything in order, I also included a letter saying sappy shit and that I plan to od in a few hours. Some people saw it but no one has sent a message
I've actually just finished snow country, it was fine
Don't do it to spite them. Suicide is never the answer.Life has highs and lows, pain and pleasure are all part of the experience. Enjoy it for what it is.
Is this intentionally bad advice or do you unironically think "it's not worth it" is good advice for a suicidal person?
I love you fren
Read Stoner.
Pain is subjective. You compare your current pain to your past, he compares his current pain to his past. Two people being put in the same situation wont share equal amounts of pain. You must be borderline retarded if you haven't figured this out yet. His pain also isn't an exhibit for people like you to gawk at, criticize and compare.
I was just curious what they would say, just wasn't anticipating literally no response. But I guess it's fine, like, what do you say to that, right
I read the plot on wikipedia, seems lovely desu, always loved reading about regular people
I'm not going to try and stop you with some fake bullshit. I don't know you and on some level I don't care. There are good things in life too, user. I know it's hard to see the good things through the foil of your emotions. We monkeys will still be here fucking and fighting eachother. Good luck.
Have you already sold all your stuff and lived like a king for one week? Or are you unable to feel joy? I'd do some dumb shit before I'd off myself. Like walking around naked in the city at 12 o'clock, carrying a burning latern and asking people where all the humans are.
Last night I messaged a groupchat with a rant about my past trauma and what disgusts me the most about humans and the groupchat became totally quiet after that. I was perfectly coherent, and not threatening suicide, I don't see why everybody was silent. It was like nobody can relate. The sole person who I can relate to doesn't fucking talk to me, and I didn't even wrong them.
>I'd do some [shit that would put me on a suicide watch]
good attempt though
Nah, if anything you would go to the looney bin - I doubt that doing the Diogenes is enough for that, though - atleast where I'm staying (germany).
But what I was getting at: I would like to do crazy shit but I dont, because the day after would be hell. You (or the suicidal user) on the other hand have no tomorrow: so why worry? You dont have to do things that will get you in jail, but things that are enjoyable but destructive. But if you cannot feel joy: I dont know what to tell you. I'd like to say: dont kill yourself. But I'm not sure what I would do if I could not feel joy.
Lol
If you end up reconsidering, that would be nice. Maybe people don't care about you, maybe they don't know how to respond. Who cares? Maybe tomorrow you will find out that you have a better response to what your life has been so far, and make more out of it for you and others. If not, so long and good luck. As for a book, how about Calvino's nonexistent knight?
I've also thought about this but there really is nothing different that I'd do on my last day, I started a book I left off ages ago but man,its a bit dull, I just cared about the culture
>looney bin
close enough
>(or the suicidal user)
>You dont have to do things that will get you in jail, but things that are enjoyable
I mean I'd tell him to try weed, sure.
What if you seppuku goes wrong?
You could remain fucked up for the rest of your life.
Don't do it.
>I started reading few weeks ago so I've just been hanging out
Keep going.
Keep reading.
Read authors who lived before you who already suffered like Dostoevskij, Dazai, Leopardi and then come back here.
I know i sound cringy but please don't do it.
read absurdity and suicide by camus
www2.hawaii.edu
and try acid
what makes me want to hang in there (despite my worldview) is the awareness that there’s so much to learn and discover (intellectually) and my ideology will probably change a few times, intellectual curiosity keeps me alive
i recommend drugs and philosophy, this combination helps me the mundane everyday reality
just hang in there if you haven’t experience enough life, life is the only thing we all have
It's unironically one of the most life-affirming books I've ever read.
Do you feel like psychedelics do much to alter your philosophy and worldview?
I have done psychedelics as an immature adolescent and have been waiting until I make some breakthroughs in my personality or my knowledge until I try it again. Then I would take psychedelics anf meditate in isolation, either in a dark room or in nature.
(Not op btw)
There is nothing you would do different if you'd brush away all the limitations of being alive tomorrow? user, please, you must get creative. Not for your sake, but for my sake. What would I give to be driven to insanity and suicide - but alas, I live my quiet, boring life, day after day, like some shakespearean quote. My mind has become so boring, you know what I would do? I would go swimming in our city lake with my clothes on, everyone is sitting drinking softdrinks, listening to quiet, beachy house music. I'd do it just because it's dumb. Something that isnt even cool.
I'm doing pills because what happens will probably be a dice roll, I'll just end up comatose or I'll be brain dead. I'll take just a bit more than a deadly of, if I die or I don't is something I'll deal with later
I've never understood the concept of doing something different before you die
Fren read the Stoics like Marcus Aurelius Séneca, Plotinus, Diogenes
No consequences. Consequences keep us from doing otherwise fun things.
Hey OP, as someone with depression and who struggles with suicidal thoughts daily, I can't judge you. If you truly know that nothingness will hurt you less than being alive, I wish you safe passage.
If you really are going to do it, could you give me a short 1 sentence message you want me to hear? It could be why you are doing it, some piece of wisdom you've learned, a joke that made you smile once
if you depart, I will carry it for you for the rest of my life. I promise.
Pain isn't subjective retard. Pain is an objective and every neuroscientist can tell you that. It's one of the most simplest things regarding the nervous system that we know. What's not the same is the overall perception of the pain and how you choose to react to it, which is not the fucking thing I asked brainlet.
>Eat some good food
>Take a nice warm shower
>Get a haircut from a nice lady (haircuts are cozy and I like when people touch my hair)
>Relax in the sun for a little bit
You can leave if you’re ready, but do some of this first to make your exit more cozy
How so? I do what I do - and if I think about what I'm doing - for some reason, the reason being long term profit. If I know I will die, I dont have to think about long term profit, but can focus on short term profit: like eating unhealthy. Of course, it could be - it is probable - that I'd lose all my interest in exciting things, in short term profit, the moment I know I will die, because that which makes me interested is already dead.
>Do you feel like psychedelics do much to alter your philosophy and worldview?
Not him, but for me, yes and no. On the one you're being shown hallucinations, but in a way they make the hallucinations of the everyday much more blatant.
For direct, visial examples, take the goldem ratio, or rule of thirds: film principles of that bent. Maybe you're walking down the road, and notice a tree and a lamppost each juxtaposed one-third from the end of your vision. But the rule of thirds isn't a property of them; it's matter of where your feet stopped moving. It's easy to explain on paper, but when you slow the process down with drugs you can much more directly see yourself seeing-things. You can look into the spiral of a seashell and understand it as a component of your own mind. Or at least, that's what I get out of it sometimes. I've had other people claim they see texture very deeply, rather than forms.
Nah man, that shits for faggots
>Pain is an objective and every neuroscientist can tell you that.
sciencedaily.com
There are so many ways to change your life. I’m pretty pessimistic myself on a macro scale— I know that’s the world is a shitty place full of shitty people— but really who cares? It may sound trite, but you have to find your pleasures where you can in this life. I could never commit suicide because I find too much enjoyment in little things- coffee in bed, books, escapism, crisp clean sheets, being a lazy fuck, etc. Is there really nothing you enjoy?
I can understand suicide if your life is legitimately one of unrelenting pain, like you have some devastating illness or whatever. In that case, rock on. But if it’s just because of some existential reason, we’ll thats just stupid. Life has no meaning, there is no god, and nothing really matters, so just make yourself as comfy as possible and enjoy the ride.
In other words, don’t do it user (unless you’re some kind of vegetable)
>tfw raised by a neuroscientist
>still have to see these comments daily
>I'll just end up comatose or I'll be brain dead.
You don't know how your body will react for sure.
You could remain paralyzed on a hospital bed until you die of old age.
That would be worse than the state you are in right now.
>On the one you're being shown hallucinations, but in a way they make the hallucinations of the everyday much more blatant.
Which psychedelics have you taken? Some psychedelics have a stronger visual effect with little to no mental effect, and others are the opposite.
If you have taken 2CB then I can understand why you would believe psychedelics to be mainly visual.
LSD has a much stronger mental high than 2CB, but you also need a much higher dose to get good visuals.
You could've also had 2CB sold to you as "LSD," in which case you should use the Ehrlich's reagent. Or maybe LSD just affects your brain differently than mine, but most people agree that LSD has a stronger mental high than visual effect.
>Pain isn't subjective retard
A subject on laughing gas can have their tooth drilled into. Families burn to death in their sleep. It's subjective.
Rethink it fren, don't throw life away
please don't
again you fucking idiot link me something regarding the experience instead of the fucking pain.
THERE IS A FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXPERIENCE OF PAIN AND PAIN.
YOU ELECTROCUTE A NEURON AND IT FIRES A SIGNAL THATS PAIN END OF STORY. WHATEVER THE PERSON FEELS IS THE EXPERIENCE PAIN.
For the last time, I asked the threshold of pain. THAT MEANS THAT I DONT CARE IF YOU GETTING YOUR TUMMY HIT ON A TABLE WAS PAINFUL FOR YOU OR NOT, WHAT MATTERS IS WAS IT THE WORST OR NOT, AND THERE IS ONLY ONE WORST PAIN YOU EVER HAD IN YOUR LIFE:
What?
Whatever will be, will be
I'll probably make a follow up about it if I happen to live or something happens and don't do it so well just laugh call me a pussy or smth
>then I can understand why you would believe psychedelics to be mainly visual
I just felt that visuals were the easiest way to describe it to a non user. The pop culture image is, well, an image.
>You could've also had 2CB sold to you as "LSD,"
in that case I haven't the slightest clue
ofc it depends on the each person and the drug (dmt and lsd are quite different), but generally - yes
psychedelics (and drugs) can enrich you just like any other experience
it’s impossible to experience this range of emotions/states so effortlessly within a few hours without drugs, that’s why i like them
each trip is slightly different, as far as i’m concerned acid satisfies my “hunger” for life and makes me experience everything much more wholly, a trip is like an awaking from the grey reality
although acid didn’t transform my worldview, it subtly changed the way i view life
i feel like some people expect too much from psychedelics, a trip can be a break-through or can be just aesthetically pleasing
i don’t think there’s a need to wait longer (unless you simply don’t feel ready for acid yet)
>You could remain paralyzed on a hospital bed until you die of old age.
That would be worse than the state you are in right now.
This. Im not suicidal, but if I were I’d probably go for the ol jump off the GW Bridge plan. A few seconds of extreme exhilaration and then POW, nothingness. Also, I always thought that most forms of suicide were EXTREMELY inconsiderate to the people who had to find them/clean up afterwards.
>but most people agree that LSD has a stronger mental high than visual effect.
--and furthermore I'd add that I took my own description to be mostly mental. I mean I was still capable of walking down the street, not getting hit by cars, etc. The visuals arr more just me providing an analogy for the mental effect I felt, if that makes sense.
>i don’t think there’s a need to wait longer
I want to complete the puzzle when I have found all of the pieces. I want more pieces to work off of.
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so you feel like your acid experience as an adolescent wasn’t “complete”?
Don’t do it, I’ll even give you my last 50 bucks man
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, can you repeat it again but legible this time?
Kek
I was an irresponsible 18 year old with little to no life experience or expertise. Everything I pieced together at the time was from what I've discovered myself with the little I had. I do think I got some valuable things out of it, but I haven't used it to its highest potential.
Get yourself a nice cozy sweater instead, nights can be pretty chilly, I mean, probably? It's pretty windy where I'm at
>drawing distinction between pain and the mechanism which (only typically) drives it, then addressing the firing of said-mechanism as "pain" rather than the experience of pain-itself as it
If that's what you call "pain" then you're implying unfelt pain exists. Which is absurd. When people talk about pain they're talking about the experience-itself, which is in turn definitely of the subject. That's why you have "your experience" and not "the experience." Which isn't to invalidate it, but it's definitely subjective.
Well, my phone's dying and I won't have a way to communicate until tomorrow so, see you soon. I'll go eat a burger
How old are you OP? And why do you want to do it?
Imagine killing yourself the day before nuclear war
Just talk to Him already
>turns 90 degrees to the side
Sounds like you've been taught to repress a lot of your emotions. Nobody can judge you here user. This board is an open space to express yourself. Out of sheer curiosity I would also like to know.
Not with those bags
>bro tell me about your neurons i wanna compare them to my neurons
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
I'm not the user you are replying to but, I don't call you a pussy. I suffered suicidal thoughts and I understand that, for some people, it can be tough, a hard decision to make. I hope you die in peace.
There is this book OP, its called "How to Die" by Seneca.
It will bring you comfort and possibly change your mind about killing yourself. I strongly recommend it.
if anyone sees OP tomorrow recommend him this book.
>samefag
It helped me become comfortable with the idea of suicide, but it also made me realize some things that i should be thankful for.
Read Cioran.
"It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late."
nobody cares.
7.53 billion people - 1 won't even make a dent.
i bet you want to kill yourself because you did nothing with your life and now you're old.
good riddance.
How so? I felt it was practically a guide on how not to live a happy life. Stoner was the most mediocre man on Earth and was not even content about it.
This is one of the worst and most boring “Imma suicide” threads in a long while
Good luck. I believe that there's no point to hanging on to this longer than you have to. I'd read Tolstoy's Confession
I hope you reconsider. I hope you can find a reason to go on living and a way to overcome whatever has brought you to this point.
Consider the alternate means of attendance our species extends to each other
Livestream or GTFO.
You should at least write down your whole life and publish it on here or somewhere else. It'll make an interesting story for Yea Forums to remember if you go through with it. also
>taking drugs
just shoot or hang yourself, taking drugs is what a women does when she needs attention. Also, imagine how much worse your life would be if you end up stuck in some hospital because the drugs didn't kill you. Also, you should do something fun before you die. Go spend all your money on stuff you want/would like to do/would like to try.
Only high end of the average in test, still tried to kill myself. So atleast its not a sign of high test.
user, don't kill yourself!
>what do you recommend I do?
RIP skyking, what a way to go.
Read Madame Bovary, its so fucking beautiful you'll end up not suiciding.
an active dose of 2cb is impossible to fit on a blotter
OP