Can I skip the Greeks and go straight to the Romans’?
Will I still be able to move on to other later philosophers?
Skipping the Greeks
Nolan Wright
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Nathan Thompson
No.
Evan Cook
The Roman philosophers? You mean those guys who just continued Greek philosophy? Oh yea, that's a smart idea.
Jose Davis
No explanation, instantly discredited.
Dominic Edwards
I’ve been recommended Epictetus but don’t want to miss out
Chase Morales
Starting with the Greeks is not a meme. Every head of every Philosophy department will tell you it's very much worth your time, and any of the heavy hitters you plan on reading later (Descartes, Kant, Hegel etc) are going to make reference to them, and use their vocabulary. Don't be the guy who has no idea what references they are making and to whom.
Grayson Moore
Does this include Homer? Or am I okay to start with Plato etc?
Daniel Young
Romans are just a cheap Greek knockoff.
Tyler Smith
>keeps trying to cut corners
Never gonna make it.
Jack Hughes
I will never tell someone not to read Homer, but he usually isn't regarded as foundational to the discourse of philosophy (broadly speaking anyway).That being said, Plato does bring him up, and had a love/hate relationship with him. Just something to keep in mind.
I would start by reading the Presocratics (Heraclitus and Parmenides especially), and then maybe check out Platos Dialogues (this is a pretty agreeable chart for reading order plato-dialogues.org
Daniel Cox
When I said "maybe check out Plato's dialogues" I didn't mean to imply it as optional lol
Joshua Parker
Plato - The Republic
Plato - Symposium
Plato - The last days of Socrates
Xenophon - Conversations of Socrates
Aristotle - Poetics
Aristotle - The Politics
Aristotle - The Nicomachean Ethics
Epicurus - The Art of Happiness
Anything I’m missing out of this list? I don’t want to start too far ahead
Jaxson Lopez
I would definitely add the Phaedrus, Lysis, Meno & Ion for Plato. They aren't terribly long, and the Phaedrus accompanies the Symposium very nicely. Just make sure you save the Republic for last out of the ones you have assembled. Aristotle's Poetics is great, but if you aren't reading epic poetry or tragedy it might not make a big imprint on you. Maybe swap it out for the Eudemian Ethics or something. The anecdotes of Diogenes are also good light reading if you want to see more of the antecedents of Stoicism and Epictetus.
Also, don't sleep on the Presocratics! the Oxford Worlds Classics "The First Philosophers" is a nice collection of their works with exposition on it (only a handful of them have surviving writings). If nothing else, read the Fragments of Heraclitus (this is something you can do online within 30 minutes or so. They're great fun, and you'll get a lot of mileage out of em if you return to them periodically.
Lincoln Gomez
Skip the Greeks AND the Romans. Start with Hollywood.
Evan Morgan
Absolutely not. The real reason to start with the Greeks is because you're not supposed to move past them. It may very well be said that philosophy simply isn't a thing after the Greeks.
Dylan Perez
Genuinely helpful posts, thanks man
Alexander Martin
I don’t understand this post at all
Christopher Hughes
Happy to help! I hope you find what you're looking for from philosophy.
Jeremiah Taylor
There is no philosophy after the Greeks.
Charles Thompson
Important philosophers
Socrates (Aristotlex, Plato)
Jesus (Paul, John the Evangelist)
Aquinas (he isn't right about everything)
Boyle, Bacon
Lovecraft, Hitler
Whaargarbl
Kant
Marx
Neetch
Popper, Whitehead, Derrida, anyone the 20th century likes from the 20th century
Anthony Price
>Neetch
What's with everyone who isn't german calling him that? Wouldn't neetsch be more accurate?
Landon James
>Can I skip the Greeks and go straight to the Romans’?
no you will die instantly
Grayson Rivera
Do not fucking reading the Republic first, jesus christ
Grayson Murphy
Omg i love peppa pig
David Richardson
>Can I count to ten successfully but also skip 1, 2, and 3?
No.