In light of recent events, I've updated the Buddhism chart.
I've replaced an old book with a new one which emphasizes metta, a part of practice that is oddly relegated to the back of the book that was previously in its place, as some sort of "complementary" practice.
Buddhism Chart Updated
Also, as the one who originally made the chart, I had initially felt that I was pushing it by including The Mind Illuminated, which was so out of place in relation to all the other Orthodox/Traditional Buddhist books. I had included it because I was aware that it was very popular with Westerners, and (considering that this is a very Western board) that it might serve to win over some people who otherwise would dismiss these kinds of things. With The Mind Illuminated's compatibility with secularism, it seemed like a decent entry point from those types.
Now it is clear that that was a mistake. Tradition is tried and true for a reason.
>he only included the first two turnings of the wheel of Dharma and not the third
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>from those types.
*for those types (secularists/skeptics)
wat mean
he's implying that there should be Vajrayana material included.
True Vajrayana is esoteric though and requires initiation into a lineage
That's incorrect, the third turning is not exclusively Vajrayana-material
>he put a book that has the word "science" on the cover into a Buddhism chart
Who let you make this again?
After you're done with all those you read the Quran and convert to Islam
Again, that was my mistake, and I was already uneasy including that book (I ran it by a couple friends who completely disgreed with the inclusion of that book, but I stubbornly kept it anyways).
is manual of insight good or am i about to get scammed again
Thank you, OP. I’ve been looking for something like this for some time
It is written by Mahasi Sayadaw, probably one of the most revered monastics in Orthodox Theravada Buddhism in the last few centuries.
It is good, but dense, and the practice (dry Vipassana) can be less pleasant than Samatha.
Practical Insight Meditation is another work by Mahasi Sayadaw which essentially condenses the main practice described in Manual of Insight into a much shorter book.
Will the fourth turning of the Dhamma be a European Buddhism based on Buddhist metaphysics such as the four noble truths and emptiness but with an authentic European ethos that forgoes such obvious Indian vegetarian and Ahimsa cultural influences that are nestled in Right Action for example? A European Buddhism that is depended on whether you can go buy bananas and avocados at the supermarket shan't make a western Dhamma.
*disagreed
Also I don't know how to add/update charts on the wiki, so if someone more capable can do that it would be much appreciated.
Mahasi Sayadaw is a recent non-traditional innovation though, tread with care
His work is based in the Visuddhimagga, though. It is definitely Orthodox Theravada. You could make an argument that the Visuddhimagga deviates from the Pali Suttas, but that's a whole other issue. You can always take meditation instructions from the suttas, anyways.
the Visuddhimagga is a compilation of autism and concentration, the innovation in the Mahasi Sayadaw method is disregarding the concentration part of the Visuddhimagga and centering on pure uncentered insight, not the stages of insight
Just give it up, you belong to a corrupt and phony spiritual tradition that does more harm than good. Admit it and move on.
I'm interested only in Zen, what can I read besides Suzuki
>those quads of truth
thats it im a Hindu now!
Diamond Sutra, Platform Sutra, the works of Linji
I think Western Hindu teachers have quite the reputation for sexual misconduct as well
That's only when they're fringe people outside of any tradition like Osho who promoted things at odds with Hindu teachings or when they make up their own 'Yoga system' that has no real history to it. Western Hindu teachers who belong to or have some connection/initiation to some traditional school such as the various Vedanta orders have been comparatively free of sexual misconduct controversies, even the neoadvaitins like Mooji and Tony Parsons havnt gotten in trouble for that kind of stuff.
thoreau for western pov
bump
been following the meltdown on reddit, and some people say the author of Right Concentration is a sperg on facebook, is the book really valid or will he get #metoo'd soon too?
Wait 50 years after he dies to be sure he's legit.
Yes, OP should have done the right thing and removed all western influence on the chart.
and add Evola's book?
>that forgoes such obvious Indian vegetarian and Ahimsa cultural influences that are nestled in Right Action
carnivorous apes aren't suited for enlightenment
post link
this particular claim about Leigh and facebook spergs is on
reddit.com
but it's not really elaborated upon, so hard to tell what it means.
you can find plenty of other meltdowns and C O P E both in /r/streamentry and /r/TheMindIlluminated/, what an embarrasing shitshow
Mind elaborating why it was a mistake?
is it worth reading these english hipster books right away or should i work on an old language for years then start reading them in the original
or should i read these now along with learning the language and then compliment the knowledge with a reading of the original works
>a sound made by putting "letters" together is just flat-out incompatible with a different sound
How limited your imagination must be.
Good work here.
try whitehead instead
Pali is a very easy language to learn, so if you wanted you could legitimately learn good enough Pali to read the suttas in the original language quite quickly.
It would be very beneficial since there is some meaning and nuance that is lost in any translation.
Also it only takes about half a year of dedicated (1-2 hours) daily study of Pali to know it well it enough to read the Early Buddhist Texts.
right now i'm half a year into tibetan and i can't read jack except very basic convos
maybe i will look into pali
check out the books 'Pali Primer' and 'Key to Pali Primer'
So enlightenment is only for people living at a particular latitude?
yes enlightened beings only arise in jambudvipa haven't you read?
Are you purposely implying the Pali canon is more authentic than the Chinese canon?
No, the Agamas are just as valid but the Pali Canon is much more accessible for those who speak English
I can't remember which, but one of the leading scholars on the Pali canon outright recommended reading both because "you can't understand one without the other", definitely something I believe should be noted on in the infographic.