If you're not a nihilist you either haven't read enough or your too thick

If you're not a nihilist you either haven't read enough or your too thick.

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You're, you infant.

I didn't misspell anything. Pause after the or, then say the rest of the sentence.

Positive nihilism is redpilled.
Life being utterly devoid of meaning is a great thing

You're legit retarded- as expected of a nihilist.

Have you seen 'A Ghost Story'?
It spins nihilism from a negative to a positive. Really great film.

Everyone knows nihilism is 'true', however, it's just not at all useful for anything. It's not useful in helping you live a fulfilling life, it's rarely useful in trying to attain truth and its certainly not useful in philosophical debate. Nihilism is at best a minor tool in the toolbox of the philosopher, and at it's worst an excuse to do morally reprehensible things or sit around on your ass all day doing nothing. Nihilism is for cowards, it's for people looking for an excuse to not be held accountable for how they squander their lives.

absurdism*
let me correct that for you

Welcome to Yea Forums, cause those are the kinda people you find. Can't have sex? Become an anti-natalist! Are you a loser? Become a nihilist! Are you a degenerate? Become an atheist! And so on and so forth rinse and repeat ad infinitum. They're all just (for lack of a better term) "copes" for insufficiencies in this life, and the "copers" will vehemently defend these positions because attacks on their beliefs are an affront on their pride. You aren't just attacking some philosophy or theory they like, you're attacking their position as an self-proclaimed intellectual (atheist) or moralist (anti-natalist)

how do i stop being the guy on the left and instead be the guy on the right?

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Is my too thick possessive?

Does "nothing in life matter" matter user?

I swear if ppl read Plato we'd never have a brainlett thread on lit

ascend beyond signaling hormones.
spoiler: it's not drugs

this
doing what you like and what stimulates your mind and reveling in the emotions you feel every day is something everyone can do and requires no philosopher or religious text to follow

Imagine being this vapid

why is somebody squandering their life a bad thing for which they should be held accountable?

I tried to read Plato and couldn't understand any of it. There's no hope for a brainlet, is there?

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Just read secondary sources on it.
Protagoras says man is the measure of all things. Plato says is that a measure of all things (that man is the measure of all things). It's a common argument of essence > existence

If the majority of the population squanders there life and doesn't care, do you think that could make it possible for someone to take advantage of their apathy? If the vast majority literally stand for nothing They will be exploited, we live in a bubble of peace but it obviously won't last forever. A society of weak men who don't give a shit is a society that is easily conquered.

On a more micro scale, shouldn't you try to improve your circumstances? Shouldn't you help your family at least? Or build a family of your own if the one you are born into is shit?

That is the high school definition of nihilism. There’re many other philosophical doctrines that assert values are relative/life doesn’t have intrinsic meaning.
Nihilism is best summarised by this:
1. Nothing exists;
2. Even if something exists, nothing can be known about it; and
3. Even if something can be known about it, knowledge about it can't be communicated to others.
4. Even if it can be communicated, it cannot be understood.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgias

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Can't have sex? Become a Christian! God loves virgins! Are you a loser? Become a Christian! God sympathizes and loves weak people. Are you addicted to masturbating? Become a Christian! You can stop masturbating and claim moral superiority over everyone else because it helps boost your ego!

I don't get what you hope to achieve with this thread. You know the only people responding to this are gonna be religious fanatics or people who already share your point of view. You're not expanding on the idea in any sort of way, all you do is insult the intelligence of anyone who doesn't hold your view.
We're just gonna spiral down into a pointless 100+ reply ad hominem "debate" again. Fuck this board.

plato and aristotle are overrated
they are only worth reading because of their impact on western philosophy (and christianity)

I looked to the left first but they said no

I don't want to strawman nihilism, but my main problem with it is that it seems to be an individual myopically focusing on the "self".
>In the grand scheme of the universe, provided there is no God, I am completely insignificant.
It's something like this, more or less, correct?

But we are part of life. How long have things been alive? 1 billion years? Even in comparison to the eons the universe has been around, 1 billion years is a long time. It could be possible to trace your genetic lineage all the way back through time to life's inception, that is my understanding. Is this really not significant?

>People are small, and the corner of the universe we occupy is a speck of dust in comparison to the vastness of it all

Perhaps, but maybe our grandeur is in our relative complexity, our intelligence itself that makes us important. We can understand and we can build. Think about the arrangement of atoms, molecules, cells, organs, etc. that it takes to produce a human. Where else in the universe is this level of order and complexity seen? Where else does it give rise to something as amazing as a nervous system?

Maybe i'm retarded idk

Read Nietzsche if you actually want to understand that word

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I don't see any meaning or purpose in life, but existence/consciousness itself is still pretty great. I'd live forever if I could. Also just because there's no objective good or evil doesn't mean you can't be a subjectively good human. Might aswell, right? "Immoral" stuff and pleasure are also meaningless, if you use nihilism as an excuse to do nothing but chase highs you're just a drug addict with no free will.

>I'd live forever if I could
most of space time is going to be pure black suffering, we’re still at the relative beginning of the universe.

Nihulism simply means there is no OBJECTIVE value, it doesn't mean that you can't find subjective meaning or that you have to be depressed.
I simply think all values are subjective in the end, even if they are shared by the majority of people.

bro dude what if like nothing is true man what if like we're just in a dream and i can just do whatever i want man its cool believing in nothing

is it objectively true that everything is subjective you dumb idiot ass fuck

If u don't have the basics of Plato down then u can't build on top of it

that’s not really nihilism, more like existentialism

>muh heat death
Even if that does happen it could be part of a cycle of some sort. Quit acting like it's established fact when we don't even know what dark energy is

Tbh (I'm a dualist) it's the same thing anyway

not really
“real” nihilism (not the high school one) asserts that nothing can be known about the world (read about gorgias’ refutation of parmenides' doctrine on being)

I feel like subjectivity is a gradient towards nihilism

Nihilists?

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Man, the food review guy looks good nowadays.

Dumb take. Your mind doesn't work that way, it senses when you don't have meaning and wants to terminate itself when it realizes so, meaning definitely does exist although it's temporary.

Aren't most positive nihilists just hedonists?

>Can't have sex? Become a Christian! God loves virgins!
Genesis 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

The same holds true for us today. To marry and have a child is a heavy cross to bear but God won't love you any less or more for not making children. Typically "Christian virgins" are monks.

> Are you a loser? Become a Christian! God sympathizes and loves weak people.
God loves all. What do you mean by "weak?" God doesn't sympathize with the slothful/lustful/envious and so on. There's no excuse for being this kind of "weak." Otherwise, being born with a weakness or susceptibility is excusable.

>Are you addicted to masturbating? Become a Christian! You can stop masturbating and claim moral superiority over everyone else because it helps boost your ego!
I don't understand why you digressed to cover the topic of masturbation. Regardless, doing something to boost your ego as a Christian is sinful, so I don't know what you're trying to get at with that statement. It's quite the reach, and also

>you can stop masturbating
If only it were that easy

But please, do go on. Do continue if you will; remember, however, not to engage in charitable/beneficent activities to feel on the same moral footing as Christians. Do it out of the goodness of your heart and not as a "cope."

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