Penguin books

books in edition like penguin usually issues (soft and thin carton cover, pages that become yellowish real quick) are three times as cheap in my country
for that money I can afford some really good hardcover edition or maybe even two of them

>Hardcover books

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Yes there is, studies have shown people remember slightly better when reading from a traditional book vs an e-reader.

I don't like ereaders.

nice blog

>e-readers
Just use PDF you faggots

But those are just images. For Epubs you can mess around with the font and other stuff

I know, but it does the job and they're free

yellow pages are comfy though
I can't be the only one that thinks this, right?
musty yellow pages with a soft texture, they're just nice

>and they're free
I'm pretty sure no one on Yea Forums buys ebooks. Libgen exists.

there's also free epubs at libgen

Penguin is trash. They space out works that can easily fit in one volume and make them into a multi-volume series in order to maximize their profit (e.g. making Lovecraft's complete works into 3 books, or Livy's histories into 6 or 7 books, putting one Plato dialogue into a single book when they can fit about a dozen). So you are spending $50+ for what you should be spending about $8 or $9 for. It's a jewy tactic and it's disgusting.
Get Oxford editions instead. They are superior in nearly every way

Well they're ebooks but I like delphi's ancient classics

The Lovecraft books are different collections (thematically or otherwise). They never meant nor claimed to do a Complete Works volume. And Oxford is indeed good, but I also like Penguin. Let's not get tribalistic. Both have their victories and their failures.

GUN TO YOUR HEAD QUESTION TIME
PENGUIN OR OXFORD CLASSICS

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Depends on the book.

Most of the time the answer is neither.

What's the alternative then?

Bad outdated translations

Depends on the book.

Animal cruelty. Boycott or steal their books.

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Penguins don't deserve to have their reputation ruined like this.

penguins can suck my dick. fucking soulless little cunts.

I absolutely agree.
This is something I really like about books, no matter how old, beat up and yellow they are, they can still be read just fine in most cases, and reading an old book feels very comfy.

>comfy
what does this even mean

what a take

Idiot

Confortable.

The word comfy has lost all it's meaning. It's used too broadly

No u!

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I am partial to the unbleached paper penguin use.

Penguin often use footnotes while Oxford almost always use endnotes.

Comparing side-by-side the Penguins usually come out on top because of comfy unbleached paper and footnotes. Hate turning to the back for endnotes.

In my country Oxford is expensive as hell, Penguin is moderately priced, and Everyman's (hardcover) is cheap

That makes no sense Penguin are cheapskates

I got a hardcover copy (Everyman's Library) of Meditations for the equalivant of US $5. The Penguin edition is priced at $6

Don't ever buy penguin editions their books physically are of low quality

oxford beats penguin most of the time but they both do annoying shit. why can't you get a complete edition of plutarch's lives from either publisher? i want to read the whole thing with each roman paired with one greek like it's supposed to be but all they sell is random subsets of it like "some cool greeks", "some cool greeks 2: we pulled another 6 out of a hat" and "it's time for random romans: director's cut: now with a free king of persia"

I think it depends on where they're made. The ones in my country are total dogshit, but I have a few made in the UK that are great quality

Pour moi, c'est les éditions Folio.

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Oxford Classics every time

who gives a shit? as if anyone of us passes books to their children... i roll penguins like cigarettes and put them into my pocket like a wallet. cash me ousside how bout that??!

Idk I think its a great term for a lot of situations

Le papier est très mauvais.

imagine not buying folio society books.
why even have books?

Pas lui, mais ça sera toujours meilleur que Gallimard. 20-30€ pour des livres qui tombe en pièce à la lecture ... Des escrocs !

they're so coooool i keep them right next to my funko pops

Yeah this is why I use e-readers. I have really poor eyesight with glasses, and I can't stand to lay in bed on my side with glasses on, meaning no point in bothering. I can increase font size on an e-reader though.

you know paperbacks aren't going to last forever right? if you want durability, hardcover is the way to go, no question.

Take care of your books geez

Only worth purchasing if the story was originally written in English.

>not buying the cheapest, most convenient, unabridged version of the book you want that's in decent condition
literally who gives a fuck about what the publisher's name is or what the cover looks like. I can't imagine somebody reads so many books that publisher loyalty becomes a convenience. a short search on the different versions of whatever book you want takes 2 minutes. I'm all for funposting, but these threads are always the same.

A semi-good paperback will easily last two or three reads, a good paperback many more.

>literally who gives a fuck about what the publisher's name is or what the cover looks like
Because then you know exactly what you're getting

you can know exactly what you're getting when you thumb through the pages at the bookstore. that or reading a couple online reviews. my experience is that 99% of books I've read had absolutely no mechanical failure of any sort, and the only thing that mattered was the words inside, which you can easily find out before purchasing any book.

Most publishers are fine honestly. I mean some do feel better, In currently reading a novel published by Unionsverlag and despite being a paperback it feels nicer than usual and that's neat but that's about it.

Just take care not to buy those super cheap amazon published books. They are fucking garbage, both in terms of print and feel.

It's more than that. For example Penguin has a nasty habit of using the same old translations. Some of them are fine but others not so much

>studies have shown
[citation needed]

old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/76nlig/a_new_study_shows_that_students_learn_way_more/

kek FAGGOT BTFO

Don't know what you mean but all the Penguins I own have endnotes while my Oxford Paradise Lost has footnotes. It depends on the edition.

Someone has to be the worst of the mid-range books. At least they're not the lowest quality.

it doesn't matter how much you take care of it. the spines break, the paper ages, the pages separate from the cheap glued binding, etc. paperbacks aren't built to last. eventually it's going to fall apart. but a good hardcover with smyth-sewn binding and acid free paper can literally last several lifetimes (we're talking hundreds of years).

stop buying shitty paperbacks

all paperbacks are cheaply made. obviously mass market paperbacks are the lowest quality, but even good trade paperbacks are at most going to last you like 10 years, and that's if you take really good care of them. if you're cool buying them knowing you're inevitably going to have to replace them, fine, but me, once i develop a new favorite or find myself re-reading a book multiple times, i like to invest in a nice hardcover copy that i know is going to last me my entire life.

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I bought some paperbacks in 2011 (roughly 10 years ago) and they're still in good quality. Just don't be a pigfuck and any book can last more than what's supposed to.

Not really. All the Penguin books I have use footnotes.

>reddit
>a legitimate source
>not just linking the study itself
am I on fucking rationalwiki?

yeah, but how often do you re-read them? a book you re-read, say, once a year is not going to last a lifetime regardless of how well you treat it. if you buy a nice everyman's library or loa hardcover, you're going to have it for the rest of your life. i'm not saying "fuck paperbacks". they have their use (most of the books I own are paperback). but they aren't meant for collecting/long term durability.

I did in fact consider linking the study itself, but I suspected that linking the reddit thread would elicit an angry response from someone and result in me getting a dopamine hit from the reply.

yeah, but sadly many books I want are not available in harcover.

the actual link is in the reddit page. reddit is the messenger, not the source.

Source: I was there when the study was conducted -- astral projection.

Never buying Penguin again after my copy of Count of Monte Cristo disintegrated and is now a bunch of single sheets stuffed inside a scarred spine. I've seen mass-market paperbacks put up with more abuse than I ever gave that book (which was very little).

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yes i know that feeling. unfortunately, you can't always find everything in hardcover, especially if you favor a particular translation (most publishers just produce paperback nowadays since that's what most people buy), but all things being equal, i recommend investing in good quality hardcovers for your favorites if you can find them.

good post desu

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>look for pretty hardcover of russian literature
>only garnett and literally who translators available

>but even good trade paperbacks are at most going to last you like 10 years
Absolute bullshit. My dad has paperbacks from his parents that have been read many times. They hold up just fine. Of course hardbacks hold up better but this notion that paperbacks will disintegrate if you look at them too hard is so ridiculous. They can absolutely last a lifetime if you’re just gentle with them.