>Atheist tells me god isn't real because it's ludicrous to think that every animal on the planet fit on one boat >I ask him if he's aware that pointing out inconsistencies in the bible isn't the same thing as proving god isn't real
Honestly, atheists are bigger believers in the bible than anyone because they rely on it almost exclusively to 'disprove' god.
Noah’s Arc isn’t that outlandish once you realize a few things. One, it wasn’t all animals, just those that walked on the ground and weren’t amphibians. Second, the animals were divided by their kind, and if you remove a few thousand years of speciation, then there would have originally been one species according to their kind, so one bear species, one horse species, one feline species, one canine species, etc. Third, to save space, all of the animals could be taken in the arc as juveniles (a baby elephant takes up less room than an adult) which also saves food since young animals wouldn’t require as much food as mature animals. There are a few other things, but that’s the gist of it.
Ryder Clark
I don't understand the question. Try rephrasing
Matthew Howard
If the Bible isn't your source of the idea of a god existing, what is?
Luke Wright
It doesn't
Kevin Taylor
God.
Brayden Perry
Okay. Prove to me how matter and energy can be created out of pure vacuum.
William Sullivan
That's an argument from ignorance
Jose Gomez
And what's your evidence for this god?
Jordan Ross
So you’re saying that energy can be created and destroyed?
Robert Baker
It's merely a simplified statement of my rationale but I suspect you are a simpleton so simplification is suitable.
There is no evidence. One could not have faith if one had evidence, for then belief in God would be a matter of fact, not faith. Don't seek out evidence, look for the truth.
Tyler Gomez
No, I'm saying that just because we don't know the origin of the universe, that doesn't justify that a god did it.
Alexander Myers
if you cant prove a proposition it doesn't mean the counter is true, how dumb are you
Asher Morris
You know, namecalling isn't an argument. Also:
>Don't seek out evidence, look for the truth.
This makes no sense at all
Brandon Cox
Read Guenon
Nicholas Cook
The moment God entered metaphysics he left. A lot of you believe in a substance, not God.
Caleb Jackson
>NOOOOOO GOD CANNOT FIT TWO OF EVERY ANIMAL IN ONE BOAT, ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS! GOD CAN'T BE REAL!
you could say the same thing about atheists who NEED a proof of god to believe in him
Tyler Taylor
Abrahamic God is supposed to be an intelligent life form outside space and time which is a priori impossible.
Easton Ward
Why are you so insecure about your beliefs that you must try to disprove atheism in an image board? Don't you know that truth reveals itself?
Adrian Garcia
Not yet. It will though. Once you solve the puzzle. Not every criminal leaves evidence behind. But every mystery does have a solution. It's up to you to find a way to the truth without evidence.
A belief in God isn't based upon rationalism but spiritual faith. Even Plato understood that reason and the spirit were seperate in the soul.
Noah King
pray for passioned atheist because having Christ on their mouth all the time proves they have hungering for him.
Adam Evans
Yes. As in ontological substance.
Anthony Phillips
I agree, I think this is the main reason for these atheist - christian debates in the first place is that both sides have a fundamentally flawed view of God
Jeremiah Cooper
God, bro
Colton Carter
atheists are just ultra-protestants, nobody thought the bible was a science book before retarded anglos started reading it
Jace Myers
>the absolute state of Yea Forums in the year 48*42+3
>Once you solve the puzzle. Not every criminal leaves evidence behind. But every mystery does have a solution. It's up to you to find a way to the truth without evidence. BUT YOU SOLVE THE MYSTERY BY LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE, HOLY SHIT, FUCK YOU I am unironically angry at your posts here, are you trying to sound deep? You NEED some kind of proof to believe in something. Even a schizo madman believes in voices AFTER hearing them. If there are no evidences, there can be no faith, because faith doesn't come from nowhere. Please, say something sensible next time
Christian Harris
>a retard getting THIS assblasted over a system of thought he is unfamiliar with Holy kek But tbqhwy the guy you're responding to doesn't seem to understand it as well
your system of thought is believing the last thing a book told you or even worse, intuition.
Eli Cruz
what a retarded thing to say. they talk about him because they live in a country where Christianity is literally everywhere, including the government. if everyone worshipped Zeus, then an atheist would be shitting on Zeus. it has nothing to do with Jesus himself. nobody would care about a cult leader from 2000 years ago if his teachings hadn't pervaded western society for a couple thousand years.
Brody Baker
I have to stop reading these threads before I start believing that all religious people are as unspeakably stupid as the shitposters here.
Owen Campbell
My father is deeply religious and he's pretty intelligent, so definitely not all religious people are as retarded as the christian posters on Yea Forums. I think they're just atheists trying to make theists look retarded, but it's Yea Forums, so everything is possible.
Benjamin Hill
The primarily problem with Athiests is that they are never playing the same word-game as theists and as such, have inaccurate criticisms of theology
Jace Mitchell
Then, how do you solve a mystery when there is no evidence?
I'm an "atheist" by Christian standards because relativity makes more sense to me, and an infinite being not only can't exist in a universe where relativity exists, but from a practical sense, I see no value in believing that there is an infinite being "outside" said universe. Such a being has nothing to do with me and it is impossible for me to know of such a thing, so it doesn't and shouldn't matter to me or be taken into consideration at any point in my life.
Ian Butler
Does the average atheist read philosophy at all? They seem totally unaware of basic concepts
So if the Bible isn’t to be trusted, what is? It sounds like your belief is based on just what people tell you is true.
Bentley Watson
If you tell yourself God's real enough and want it then you'll eventually believe it.
Adam Bennett
Sounds like you have reading comprehension issues.
Dylan Scott
because God, not yaweh is on the dollar bill. Christian churches are in every strip mall, not synagogues. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but Christianity is, without contest or question, the most influential religion in America. of course an american atheist arguing on the internet will have Christianity on their mind, and not for any supernatural reason.
David Howard
what I experience first hand. I have reason to accept peer reviewed research papers if I'm never realistically going to be able to know that knowledge myself, because the scientific process is very simple and something I can enact myself with experiments on things directly in front of me. I understand that there are interests that may cause data to be represented in biased ways, and I try and detect that when I can. I understand that what I see as reality may not be true and my mind could be changed at any point. what I would consider to be my knowledge is a collection things that make the most sense out of all the sensory inputs I've experienced. the Bible is all too arbitrary, convenient, and self imposing for me to believe it. it also has absolutely no congruence with a lot of my experiences.
Jackson Hall
Exactly It also doesn't disprove that a God dit it. Believe in god or not, in either case it's just a belief.
Oliver Brooks
if somebody says "I don't know how the universe started", is that a belief?
Henry Walker
Deism doesn't require faith. Believing in the Biblical god does, but Deism is fucking obvious. Even Voltaire believed in a God. You have to be fuckin retarded to not see how obvious a God's existence is. Not sure how you are defining "theism"
Camden Reed
the bible has been peer reviewed
Alexander Bailey
No. But then he wouldn't be an atheist, because atheists believe there is no god.
Christopher Moore
yes, agnostics are pussy atheists
Evan Jenkins
this science niggers dont even know what the church fathers are
Hudson Garcia
The guys at my uni's Catholic society unironically talk like this and spout /pol/ memes between jerking each other off about how smart Trump is and the size of their crypto portfolios. At least the girls are very sweet and dignified and seem much more traditionally academic, if somewhat meek/complacent.
Liam Bennett
as someone who is at a Catholic university and intends to study God for the rest of his life... please don't let retards on the internet form your opinions about Catholicism. people are dumb and uninformed, generally, and should not be considered reliable sources for something as subtle as that.