Read Bataille
Read Bataille
Why should I?
I have. Klossowski's better
Story of the eye gave me the weirdest boner
He provides the theory of a general economy, as distinct from the restricted economic perspective of most economic theory, based on hedonism and excess spending.
No.
Actually I'm about to go walk around in circles for 6 hours reading The Sacred Conspiracy which is a compilation of texts relating to his 1930s secret society Acephale and the College de Sociologie. Then I'm going to read Visions of Excess, which is a collection of 1920s and 1930s writings. I should do it the other way around. Maybe I will do that actually.
If anyone is interested in Bataille, I recommend taking one of two routes. Either read Visions of Excess, then The Sacred Conspiracy, then Denis Hollier's and/or Galleti's L'Apprenti sorcier, then his 1940s works, OR, post "where to start with bataille" periodically for 3 years on Yea Forums and then forget about him and eventually become a 34 year old who watches Youtube videos about how to frost a novelty cake or what happens when you film underwater explosions in slow motion.
capital will win
List of secondary sources on this qt3.14?
Is Vicious Circle his only English book?
His fiction is a plebfilter. His philosophy is for true patricians.
Visions of Excess -> Accursed Share -> Theory of Religion -> Unfinished System of Nonknowledge
something something jouissance
Nick Land - Thirst for Annihilation
You know, while I am against censorship and such, I do not believe transgressive literature ought to become popular. It should remain fringe. I find it highly suspect that you would encourage people to read Bataille. In fact, I think people should gain a license to read the works of figures like Bataille, Mishima, Lautréamont, de Sade, etc.
I read his poetry, and I found it to be way more decadent than even Baudelaire. It's not something the average man should feel compelled to read. What's the point of being adamant about reading such literature of cruelty unless one has some hidden inclination to it?
Also, from reading a bit of Story of the Eye, it's not a work that should be extolled for any means.
If you wanted to convince more people to read bataille, good job, because this post does exactly that. You’ve produced an unexpected result and have given the original topic a generous amount of credit. Nice!
I am a very direct and sincere man. I mean what I say.
Most of his main books have been translated (I think only his first novel and Le Souffleur haven't): Sade My Neighbor, Roberte Ce Soir and the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes, Such a Deathly Desire, The Baphomet, Diana at Her Bath and the Women of Rome (these last two out of print but they're on monoskop), Vicious Circle, and Living Currency.
Which ones deal with Philosophy the most? Is Baphomet fiction? Is it fun?
His Sade and Nietzsche books, Such a Deathly Desire, and Living Currency are the most philosophical, the latter to be read in the margins of Anti-Oedipus and Libidinal Economy (or vice versa rather?). The Baphomet is fiction, as is Roberte Ce Soir... (Diana is a mix of history, mythology, and fiction); and is it fun? Well, if you're into knights templar half engaged in heretical theological arguments, half engaged in deviant (but suggestive) erotic practices, then yes! It's strange and garrulous and boring to some perhaps, but I love it.
I get your point but Sade and to a lesser extent Mishima have become too mainstream for your reservation to apply. Lautréamont is borderline really (besides his later poetry is hilariously anti-decadent). For Bataille you have a point, but there is a natural self-selection at play, if you've heard of him and have picked him up you're probably already into that stuff.
The only concrete measure I could see being relevant here is not teaching those transgressive guys in uni. Which makes sense but there's the risk they won't even be read by those who are worthy of reading them.
The Bataille reader by Fred Botting
Now I want to read him
The Bataille Reader is primary, since it is a compilation (reader) of texts by Bataille. You might mean Bataille: A Critical Reader (both were edited by Botting and Wilson), which features a selection of better known 2ndry readings
Doesn’t matter because your intentions completely back fired. You would know this if you studied behavioral psychology. Just giving you an fyi
Doubtful considering that it's already lost.
Already have. Transgression literature is fantastic.
Nothing he writes is transgressive, just browse Yea Forums for a couple of hours and you'll read worse
The only people who will be able to understand Bataille are the ones who have gone insane. It is the insanity of his philosophy that gives it a superlative sensation; far beyond the banality of sterile society, and the impotent hounds that compose society will never come to revere this mans thoughts, as that will lead to the reversal of Christian prejudices and the glorifying of self-negation which is in complete opposition to primitive inclinations, that is, self preservation.
He looks genuinely crazy as a young man but as he gets older that primal look in his eye is replaced by a more subtle cheeky appearance
>insane
>sensation
>sterile
>impotent
>revere
>self-negation
>primitive
Bataille hyperreaders as libidinally overcompartmentalised antimoderns: Confirmed.
What point is he trying to make with his writings? My friends have accused him of mysticism and fascism but I don't get it.
Thanks but obvious.
Looks interesting, let me know if anyone else has any other recommendations, books or articles perhaps.
I got the part where he said African savages have "revolting" laughs and stopped
He like the pee pee
His best works are "Theory of Religion", the "Accursed Share", "Inner Experience" and "Hegel,Death and Sacrifice".
His poetry is too try hard and edgy. His literature apart from Story of the Eye is also kinda meh. Deleuze is kinda right in that Bataille was always a catholic, his transgressive literature is less about transgressing the limits of subjectivity and more about the subject living after the death of God in cursed universe were christian cosmology is reversed. Ironically he is then very christian.
That makes sense, didn't he plan to become a priest originally?
Great. I'll look into some of these later today. Goodnight friendos.
Read it again
i love him
Where did Deleuze talk about Bataille ? I'd be really interested in reading this...
tell me about the acephale