Holy shit
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Andrew Richardson
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Landon Nelson
i know, it was THAT bad.
Kayden Powell
Fuck the haters, it's a good book (apart from where he just goes off on one for like 20 pages about those dang kids and their pesky phones)
Evan Nguyen
Would a capitalism-skeptic reactionary gain much from reading this book?
Josiah Evans
That book has about 5 pages of content and 75 pages of references to movies and pop culture, a bit dissapointing imo
Aiden Cox
Just read it, it's like 100 pages
Levi Perez
HOOOWLY SHIEEET
Austin Perry
If your reactionary politics is about how postmodern society is basically hollow and without meaning, then maybe
Michael Young
Also to be fair, a lot of the "woke" left accuse Fisher of being a reactionary and fucking hate him
Jaxon Baker
fisher is a fascist
Brayden Barnes
I can't stand this shit.
opendemocracy.net
Can someone please tell me what he said that was wrong? I've only seen 'hot takes' that ultimately prove him right
Samuel Campbell
I mean I wouldn't go that far but okay
Owen Reed
That bit was insightful imo.
Mason Anderson
I broadly agree with his analysis, in that theres an element of the "online" left that have an understanfing of class and identity-related oppression that is basically liberal.
But I think that a lot of the stuff he says is also applicable to older tendancies on the radical left. Just looks at the decades of purity-policing between MLs and Trots and whatever other tendancies. I don't think it's unique to the 'woke' left.
James Garcia
It's awful
Imagine proclaiming culture is dead because you're a pleb kek
Eli Kelly
what
Cameron Gomez
He was moaning about the death of music for years but never bothered to venture outside pop music
Joshua Brown
He seemed to talk about alternative and indie music a lot, at least in his books more focused on hauntology. Also it's still significant if pop music is especially devoid of radical innovation
Dylan Jones
"""alternative""" and """indie""" are part of popular music. Everything he mentioned is in the RYM top charts.
James Sanders
Okay, so where are the sites of contemporary music where people are making stuff that would have been impossible/unimaginable before the 80s/90s?
Joshua Diaz
I didn't phrase this very well but you get what i mean
Nicholas Nelson
>even trying to deny that popular music has stagnated
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Connor Carter
>Can someone please tell me what he said that was wrong? I've only seen 'hot takes' that ultimately prove him right
>Politely suggests that maybe there are more productive and useful things to be done than infantile witch hunts and purity tests among people supposedly on the same side
>Doesn't realise that's the entire point of the modern left online and everything else is just a smoke screen for self important shitting on others with impunity
>Immediately gets "cancelled"
>Gets in grave
Leo Murphy
Only pleb here is you. Pop is the only music that matters because it's what the massess listen to.
Jacob Wilson
Are you saying billy idol was the peak of popular music or something?
Daniel Thompson
Boring post-modernist reformist media analyst superstructure yawp.
Eli Lopez
okay then
Anthony Rogers
>He was moaning about the death of music for years
whenever people talk about the death of a _______
they usually mean the mainstream version of it, in which case he was correct
Adam Robinson
Okay but why were people so mad? People say that he went 'full mask off' and revealed himself to be a 'cishet racist' or something but i can't grasp any other reason
Connor Thompson
The SJW's didn't like it when he said woke leftism is moral puritanism, and for defending a supposed bigot like Russell Brand.
Elijah Garcia
meant for
Joshua Torres
Ok, this book is epic.
Dylan Allen
I don't know, couple thoughts on it tho:
>A lot of woke left people are extremely online, and the way being online works (esp twitter and tumblr) is its possible for you to find the 12 other people who are also 100% your specific politics, so you can eaisly mark other people as being wrong and get very invested in it
>A lot of these people aren't from academia, so they're not used to interrogating ideas or being critical of thinkers, so if they think hes bad in some way they just disown him completely
>They recognise that a big part of online discourse in those spaces is not allowing people with contrary opinions to be accepted at all, its a way of maintaining thier control over whats acceptable political discourse
>there is an old tadition in leftism that completely dismisses any politic that isnt 100% material economic class based. While fisher wasnt doing that, what he was doing was similar enough that it was still too much for some people.
>Fisher was 100% correct in his analysis, those people are the 'vampires' he was talking about, and reading his essay is the best way to understand their motivations
Charles Jackson
>Okay but why were people so mad?
It's been explained about 10 times. You have a group of people whose whole existence is about finding people to get angry about and to use their unearned power to ruin them. He said their behaviour was wrong and achieved nothing of value and they immediately wrecked him as punishment.
In particular a bunch of feminists kicked off at him and danced on his grave once they knew he was dead because he was "le ebil white man XD" and not allowed to criticise their chilidish mean girls bullshit.
Henry Adams
Just read this a a couple weeks ago. The book felt underwhelming, some chapters are neat others are pure garbage. The constant citation of movies is pretty cringe.