Thoughts on E.M. Cioran?
Thoughts on E.M. Cioran?
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>"In the days when I set off on month-long bicycle tripsacross France, my greatest pleasure was to stop incountry cemeteries, to stretch out between two graves,and to smoke for hours on end. I think of those days asthe most active period of my life."
based and comfypilled
BASED
So pratically his philosophy was based on pussying out of suicide
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“Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why would they have any to die?”
― Emil Cioran
Where should I start with him?
A short history of decay or The trouble with being born
*On the Heights of Despair*, then proceed with *A Short History of Decay* and finally, *The Trouble with Being Born*
anywhere
On the heights of despair, his first book
Cioran should be analyzed in order to get insights in help people to not commit suicide.
Personally the greatest pessimist ever.
>obsessed by suicide
>keeps bitching and whining about life
>ultra-edgy emo
>runs like a pussy from native country to hide out in wuss-land (France)
>starts whining about being "an exile"
>dies at 84
Discarded.
People miss what makes him valuable as a 'philosopher' so to speak. He's completely unsystematic, or at least he systematically de-sysmatysises what others try (in vain, he'd suggest) to make systematic. Other than that he's just a pretty ruthless critic of the illusions people, including himself, live by. He's like a fundamentalist Mahayana Buddhist. Short History of Decay and/or The Temptation to Exist.
this
>On the heights of despair
not this
Pretty sure you would have the same life if you suffered from chronic insomnia user.
Imagine never sleeping, Cioran had an incredible strength and soul for arriving in absolute lucidity until the end.
>In 1933, he received a scholarship to the University of Berlin, where he came into contact with Klages and Nicolai Hartmann. While in Berlin, he became interested in the policies of the Nazi regime, contributed a column to Vremea dealing with the topic (in which Cioran confessed that "there is no present-day politician that I see as more sympathetic and admirable than Hitler",[2] while expressing his approval for the Night of the Long Knives—"what has humanity lost if the lives of a few imbeciles were taken"),[3] and, in a letter written to Petru Comarnescu, described himself as "a Hitlerist".[4] He held similar views about Italian fascism, welcoming victories in the Second Italo-Abyssinian War, arguing that: "Fascism is a shock, without which Italy is a compromise comparable to today's Romania".[5]
He would have become an alcoholic in his native country.
Why has Cioran become so popular here recently? Is it just one guy starting these threads?
In any case, I won't complain, Cioran's voice may be the most needed on a site filled with incels and future mass shooters
>He later renounced not only his support for the Iron Guard, but also his nationalist ideas. In an interview in 1972, he condemned it as "a set of movements, more than that, an insane sect", and confessed: "I realized then [...] what it means to be transported by the waves, without the slightest hint of conviction. [...] Now I am immune to it. "
>Cioran
>Houellebecq
>Stoner, by John Williams
I'm not complaining either.
Imagine the conversation between these two.
Anyone have any English translations of his work? Only thing I can find is trouble with being born
Cioran's been on Yea Forums forever, one fag is making a few threads within a week
>Stoner, by John Williams
You're running late a couple of years Cooper
Cioran on Nietzsche, from The Trouble of Being Born:
>To a student who wanted to know my position about the author of Zarathustra, I answered that it has been a lot of time since I stopped frequenting him. Why? He asked me. Because I find him naive. I blame his infatuations and his fervors too. He pulled down idols only to replace them with other ones. A false iconoclast with adolescent traits and I don’t know what kind of virginity, what innocence related to his career of lone man. He observed men only from the distance. If he’d observed them closely he never could have conceived and celebrate the Ubermensch: a rummy vision, a laughable, if not grotesque, chimera or caprice that could only spring from the mind of someone who didn't have the time to live, to age, to know the real detachment and the long serene disgust.
>Marcus Aurelius is much more close to me. There’s no hesitation in me between the absolute lyricism of frenzy and the prose of acceptance. I find more comfort, and even more hope too, in a tired imperator than in a thunderstruck prophet.
Absolutely based, Nietzsche BTFO.
I, without doubt, prefer the thunderstruck prophet. Because Cioran was something between a feral animal and a poet.
Based
In our current age the equivalent of 'thunderstruck prophets' are the average basement dweller neets.
Damn, didn't know Cioran was a supporter of the Iron Guard
Former member. He retired or he was retired.
Didn't strike me as being part of his character, even if it did occur when he was younger
I'm ok with that. I'm one.
Retard
After Codreanu was assassinated the movement took a more extremist turn under Sima
Cioran wasn't OK with that violence,
t. thunderstruck
his best buk?
The Eraserhead of literature.
>implying that's not true
You either love him or you hate him, he's no Kant or Hegel when it comes to his contribution to philosophy, but everyone I felt a profound spiritual connection to him when I read "On the Heights of Despair"
So yeah, based and blackpilled
He's cute. :3
So he was based?
The Book of Delusions.