The Case for Trips

That's why I started tripping - honestly, Butterfly made this point about being held accountable for the verifiable trail of your thoughts and words. I had always looked down on it for similar reasons as I'd imagine a lot of people here do, but it doesn't necessarily disrupt the integrity of the anonymous format. maybe a lot of the browsers are in the academy or something, but I personally don't have much opportunity to expound on my synthesis of what I've read in real life; even when someone I'm with might be interested, it's rare that they have the context for us to talk too much about it without me coming off as a sperg. Yea Forums will always be primarily anonymous - there's just too little incentive to trip unless you're trolling or looking for some directed discussion. being able to string together posts across threads and spans of time could be a positive thing, but there's such a stigma against "identities" that most people who use a trip are just the provocateurs who don't care anyway.

And why do you think there's energy here? What makes this different from other places on the Internet, I wonder? You're like the Israelites' in Samuel's time: Give us a king like unto all other nations! How well did that work for them, I wonder?
A mere moments' reflection should convince you that tripping is retarded. Has there ever been a tripfag whose name you liked to see? No, every single one, without exception, destroys the quality of any thread in which they appear. Butterfly? Montie? Need I go on? In all my years in this hellhole the only two trips that haven't made me retch instantly are a few fanlators in Yea Forums, and they only use their trips to post the latest chapter and maybe answer a directly related question or two, and all this only in the series' designated thread.
Consider the vibrancy of anonymous posters we already have. Girardfag, schizoposter, Londonfrog, that Estonian on /pol/ who always used to post that tooth brushing gif--I could go on and on. Users with personas that matter on a boardwide level are already well known. Everyone else creates a persona on a thread-by-thread basis by the nature of their comments and responses. Thus there is no benefit to adding a label to oneself, as all necessary information about oneself is already present. To trip can only invite retarded blogging and attention whoring.

>honestly, Butterfly made this point about being held accountable for the verifiable trail of your thoughts and words
LOL if that's the case it has been a disasterous failure

Based sperglord poster and also the only correct post in this thread
Incorrect

The age of trips is long over.
And Yea Forums is god fucking awful now, I don't give a fuck if it's always been shit, it's far fucking worse than its ever been now.
Constant /pol/tier shit flinging, obnoxious arrogant christards eating the board like a cancer, and hardly anyone ever discussing literature.
Since 2016, this board has been going strongly downhill, rather than remaining in its usual stagnant filth.
We need the literary second coming of Jesus to start tripping here to save it, not some boring 19 year old who's read less than 300 book but "wants to leave a trail" as if anyone but him fucking gives a shit.

good post

t. wannabe tripfag

This is a shitty post but yeah Yea Forums is not as good as other boards atm. Literature is hard to discuss as there is little common ground between people who haven’t read the same book.

On second thought I just scrolled through the catalog and lit is p good today.

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Lit has always been shit in that regard, but at least people would pretend to be well read
At least the shitposts would be lit related
Now it's just the same nu-Yea Forums trash
Soijacks, numale with Nintendo switches, yikes, cringe, seethe
Nothing uniquely Yea Forums

It's not even a fun place to just shitpost in anymore

I feel dat

I guess I don't understand why the different types can't coexist. To me, a trip seems preferable for the most part, since a gimmick or avatar can fall too easily into repetition of posts that are essentially the same. There are definitely good, diverse user personas on Yea Forums, but I don't see it as a general argument against tripping. if you're actually participating in discussion, it's also frustrating to have to outline each element of your viewpoint again and again on a thread-by-thread basis. for people coming at it from a place of genuine desire to contribute, why not just let it lie? the anons screeching about tripfags usually shit up threads a lot more than trips do.

The point is nobody gives a fuck about you
Nobody cares about the points you made in an earlier thread
Nobody cares about your post history, or how you've developed as a poster
Nobody cares about your viewpoint, especially not as part of your Yea Forums persona
You've got no good reason to trip

>”it’s frustrating to ... outline each element of your viewpoint ... in a thread-by thread basis”

nobody cares about tripfags actually, but anonymous posting allows discussion to focus on post content, which is what makes the other boards good. “outlining viewpoints” as opposed to what is a really silly concept and sounds more like a justification of having a persona.

>makes a thread about trips
>doesn't even get dubs

sad

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cool a new tripcode to filter

it's not really that I expect anyone to care, just that it's a useful tool for my self-organization, and it's conceivable that someone else might get something from what I post. If they did, it's also conceivable that we'd have a more mutually rewarding conversation if they'd seen my past statements.

this is the right idea

It would undoubtedly be better. People would be more accountable for what they post. All the shit plaguing Yea Forums recently would be drastically decreased. People here who are saying the board will be less lively if this was implemented are too pessimistic. Unless, of course, they mean "less lively" as in "there will be less memeposting and less retard posting" then yeah, but that's a good thing.

No shit it's all for yourself
It's still obnoxious and disliked
You merely invite flaming and derailing, just because you wanted to be selfish

People would find a way around it, or just create personas to shitpost with. Unless you want to turn this place into reddit, shitposting would still stay.

I've namefagged on other boards, for the sole purpose of flaming. It's not a deterrent.

Deep&Edgy had some valid points about this. Should be archived.

I like trips because typically their viewpoints are individuated enough that I like seeing them in threads, they have strong things to say and they know how to say it. Giving a trip to every rando phoneposter and his Mon would ruin that and ruin the anonymity of this board.

>Unless you want to turn this place into reddit
That's a false dichotomy. The only choices aren't to be reddit or to allow shitposting. I'm for a strict Janny rule on this board. I think it's way underpoliced.

well your argument is valid but content being post centric still outweighs it imo

Jannies are largely ineffective even on more policed boards. Even bans are super easy to get around.

The culture depends on the browser. Unfortunately, since 2016, Yea Forums in general has seen a shift in userbase. Everyone is shit and low quality now, just the same detached bullshit.
Anyone caught using a Soijack shouldn't be banned by the mods, they should have their Internet revoked.
Also, a lot of the good lit posters went to litcord back in 16/17. Now it's a bunch of arrogant Christ fags, self help types, and shit posters, all without anyone who's actually read a book to guide them.

What would work would be more visible policing, such as the old [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST]
so people can see what standard is good

which leads me onto my next ramble
Yea Forums has always been elitist, but in the early days this was backed up by actually reading, and a good sense of humour
nowadays its elitist, but nobody actually reads, and nobody is funny at all, just shitposting numales and tired wojacks

If anyone is in doubt that tripping is bad, just see how this thread draws them out.

Tripping has always been frowned upon on Yea Forums. I just wish lurk before you post was still a thing.

this view is myopic at best. trips benefit because of anonymity, but trips can only detract from the board culture unless theyre used for a purely productive reason. take butterfly, who i dont dislike as a poster, but the only reason she trips is for ironic impact, like, that isnt healthy bro its just attention whoring

i like it when someone isnt a tripfag but still has an unmiastakable calling card "oh its THIS guy again"

>Girardfag, schizoposter, Londonfrog
This. When you can manage to achieve recognition here despite the anonymity, its pretty cool and likely speaks to the quality of your posts. I don't really give a shit about tripposters, though sometimes the shitstorm kicked up by butterfly gives me a chuckle. But fuckin 5oclock Wojack and Girardfag? Its a good fuckin' day when they show up.

Dude, I love anonymity but it doesn’t make you form any meaningful relationships beyond the current thread.
In fact it's a welcome to shitpost because there are no repercussions.

tripanon, the trip whiners will literally always exist. Punch higher if you really care so much. Be the effortposter you wish to see!
>why not just let it lie?
You and I both know the answer to this question

People actually enjoy being anonymous, ever considered that?
Bootlicking fucking scum, I hope you and every tripfag get publically flayed and tossed into a big tub of salt
Fucking scumbag cunt fuck
Tripfaggots are a fucking plague, nobody wants them but themselves and weak incel maggots like you
I hope your mother has a psychotic breakdown and stabs you then immediately kills herself

Honestly it's sad. I joined here only two years ago and I've seen a drastic slip in quality over time. Perhaps that's just because I became disenchanted with lit after a while though, but it does really feel like the quality has dropped.

lol pathetic

Acid trips? Yeah, why not

>being held accountable for the verifiable trail of your thoughts and words
CHECKED
FUCK OFF LATE-DELEUZE, THERE IS NOT BIG OTHER

I've taken a liking to naive, annoying little Kierkefaag.

i prefer dubs.

based

>88
Fucking Sufi get every time, God dammit

kill yourself faggot

>there are two websites on the internet

Yea Forums has a unique approach to language. Where most people see words as a tool of self expression, a way to communicate your thoughts, your experience, your you-ness to others, on Yea Forums words are a tool to plant ideas in other people's heads. Trolling is independent of the troll's identity, it's all about the effect it has on the trolled. When you force someone to feel upset, you've controlled their thoughts for a bit and you "win." The old meme of the game (which you just lost) is another good example.
It is NO accident that these are cultural landmarks of Yea Forums, and not reddit or twitter. Anonymity forces dissociation between speaker and spoken. It frees you from the burden of consistency (which Ralph Waldo Emerson called the hobgoblin of little minds) and allows you to summon forth posts onto the board without them coming from your mouth. It also discourages hunting through archives to attack people's characters rather than the words on the screen. That's why "we have this thread every day" but also why we understand so much more than the average redditard. Anonymity allows you to post anything you want, or read any post, free of context that would otherwise stifle discussion. I can start a thread posing as a Frenchman claiming the superiority of French poetry even though I'm neither French nor a poet, just to watch the discussion that unfolds. There is more room for creativity, social experimentation and norm breaking with anonymity. Force pseudonyms and you kill this site's lifeblood and reduce it to another autistic circlejerk like the discords mentioned earlier.

Because we want to be able to make friends here, without the emphasis on status -- without hierarchies of followers and karma and upvotes.

How do people make friends on the internet nowadays?

Names beget status user, we are social creatures

then make a goodreads

If anyone of you faggots cares, join

goodreads.com/group/show/1003333-lit-erati

its definitely more useful "what is Yea Forums reading atm" threads

do you remember what they said, in essence? I did some digging but couldn't find the relevant posts.

a lot of the people commenting here seem to be rejecting a total conversion to usernames - I definitely feel the same. Yea Forums obviously benefits from anonymity and a lack of easily accessible post history or status marks. There's no argument against that, just an argument for multiple layers of engagement running across full user, trips, false trips, avatars, and general impersonation.

I would love to meet someone from my community would travel for sure.
Actually this place is under water, too many indians, pakistanis and so on
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#20190807 Words in the Jam - Get A Freelancer
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now that's not very nice

>the point is nobody gives a fuck about you

we should give fucks about each other, my dudes. this is one of the major fuck ups of our society, justifying statements like this as righteous.

honestly, if you know of other good platforms, I would honestly like to know. how is discord? never tried it. seems shitty

bump

Holy

Filtered

Checked

Shut the fuck up tripfag never (You) me again hidden filtered and reported to the FBI

>vibrance
cringe word. You only get the good conversations because of the anonymous nature

This is an anonymous imageboard, being anonymous is apart of what makes this place different from others, and the use of trips leads to associations which help to keep people closed minded because if somebody like butterfly is being a transhumanist and a faggot than people are going to associate transhumanism with faggotry, but if he layed out his arguments in a way not weighted down by previous encounters than maybe people would take him seriously more often.

What’s wrong with my e-reader. It’s cheaper that way.
>I just don’t want to be raped

Is there still a Yea Forums discord? Just wondering

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I will give a custom tripcode to anyone who wants one.
Since I'm lazy and anyone can do it though, it can only be 4 characters.

>anyone can do it
Indeed, so why bother

The tripcode is strong with this one.

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shut the fuck up

The entire point of Yea Forums is to post anonymously and let your opinions be the only value attributed to you. I fucking hate tripfags. They ruin the purity of the anonymous experience.

Go be an attention whoring bitch somewhere else. I hear Reddit loves having their identity and post history known. Try there. The only reason you won't, is because on Reddit everyone has an identity, so you don't feel uniquely special as you do here.

Tripfags need to fuck off.

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It's weird how tripfags are universally scum too. I don't think I've ever seen one who wasn't a "look at me!" gimmickposter, a woman or someone claiming to be a woman, or an absolutely horrendous trainwreck of a narcissist like Butterfly.

It's never just some fucking guy. They never just post as "some guy" so that you notice they have a trip and think, oh that's a tripfag. It's like they're always posting with the underlying premise that people are going to NOTICE it's THEM!!! Like we're all following their legend, and this performance needs to be perfect to make the legend even better.

I'm convinced tripfags are all mentally ill narcissists.

This

Pic related

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People bitch about it, but people do not bitch about those that identify themselves by using images with a theme or something common in the photos, like black guy who has his hand in every picture he takes of a book he is reading, it is the same thing, but no one complains about them ruining the board.

I am fairly close to using trips just because of the anti trip crowd and their childish bitching and moaning.

You sound like a schizo seeing patterns that aren't actually present. You would fit right in as a tripfag.

Since this is basically a meta thread, i'll post this here. This innocuous and on topic (though extremely low effort) thread just got killed by the Jannies. Now, this doesn't bother me, it wasn't much of a thread, i didn't start it. What does bother me is that, of all the fucking threads in the catalog to prune, they chose one that was on topic. The catalog is fucking chocka-bloc with off topic /pol/+/r9k/+religion bait threads and the Jannie, who is clearly HERE, PRESENT, TO DELETE THE THREAD, chose to go to page 5 and delete a thread on fucking bentham? i'm convinced that they are deliberately sabotaging this board.

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Nobody fucking knows dude. This place has been a mess for a year or more now. If it makes you feel any better, they don't actually browse the board. They periodically skim a report queue. It's a very strange case of self-selection that the people most eager to be janitors and mods are the least likely to be board regulars.

But frankly, this board has had tyrannical moderation before and I prefer the anarchy. There's nothing worse than a "board regular" who thinks he speaks for the whole community. Do you remember the mod leaks a few years back? It was literally all fucking discord trannies avant la lettre.

You sound very unobservant, but you probably do not notice the images because you are just looking for trips to bitch at.

Black hand guy, give us a picture of your current read.

Is it any surprise that the jannie fears the Bentham? Bentham founded utilitarianism, a docrtine that famously proclaims the simple sentiment: the greatest happiness for the greatest number! such a sentiment is so anathema to the jannie that even the sight of his auto icon sends them into a jittering rage. Slavish to his base craving for hot pockets, ignorant of the Greatest Pleasure Principle, the jannie wishes to suppress all talk of duty to the happiness of others. The jannie sees himself the watchman of the panopticon, disciplining the user forever, "obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example", by hiding his presence so the user never knows when they might be banned. This is why he wishes to hush tongues, to expunge tomes, to punish the slightest whisper of the name "Bentham"—it is fear and self-loathing in the jannie that his wretched existence be shown in the light of day. The jannie fears this most of all, which is why he fears Bentham.

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I wonder why Yea Forums is so different to all those websites with usernames hmmmmm

>people do not bitch about those that identify themselves by using images with a theme or something common in the photos
funnily enough, avatarfagging is against the rules, which I've never really understood if we have tripcodes, not that it isn't obnoxious

This has been happening on Yea Forums recently, on-topic threads about movies or filmmakers that, by some miracle, don't actually have any /pol/posting in them either, and have people talking about the topic, are getting deleted every, while the catalog is full of garbage.

bump

>I feel like
Stopped reading there, facts don't care about your feelings.

>What if trips may provide an opportunity to interact with each other with more familiarity?
THEN
>Perhaps actual interrelationships could develop
GO
>perhaps we would feel less alone coming here
TO
>Maybe it would feel like we actually made friends coming here.
FUCKING
>maybe you'd be nicer and think your thoughts through a little more
REDDIT

Reddit is exactly what you're describing. So why don't you go there instead. I don't want to be your internet friend, and anyone else who does can FOLLOW YOU TO FUCKING REDDIT YOU NARCISSISTIC STUPID FUCK.

>Harry Potter threads are regular and welcome
>There are more politics threads then there are threads dedicated to texts
>There's been fucking Rick and Morty threads
>Tripfags wanting reddit usernames for everyone
This place is getting very un/lit/.

That is not an avatar, more like a trail of bread crumbs that leads nowhere.

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haha weird

fuck off
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I already have friends irl so no
also go fuck yourself lmao what a faggy post

>People here who are saying the board will be less lively if this was implemented are too pessimistic.
Anyone who posts here who has any talent or insight would never post here again if they were required to have a trip. These people come here for the anonymity; the ability to postulate on anything without repercussion or accountability. If that anonymity that draws that people here was compromised, they would leave. So, no. The board would not be "less lively". It would be dead.

>I just wish lurk before you post was still a thing.
This. I lurked for 2+ years before I made my first post on Yea Forums (like a decade ago).

to clarify my post, originally I thought OP meant trips as in organizing a trip somewhere with Yea Forumsanons, lmao my point still stands

>made this point about being held accountable for the verifiable trail of your thoughts and words
But that's exactly why we shouldn't use trips. The great thing about being anonymous is that no one is going to judge what you say based on what you said in the past. You have to judge every thread and post as if you're seeing that person speak for the first time. So the only biases you'd have are the ones you impose on everything instead of some stupid thing someone said in the past. We don't need a cult of personalities, just discussion.

And we have trips for those that want to be held accountable for what they said in the past, it was a good system before people started bitching and moaning about tripfags. The chances of Yea Forums ever going beyond a handful of tripfags is slim, it should be a none issue.