>Now that the book is a little more than 75% done, I figure I should start posting some excerpts. Did you know Deleuze’s parents were both fascists? Good son that he was, though, he never disavowed them. Very naughty, today’s Antifa would say, but very based. Not because fascism is cool — Deleuze was unambiguously anti-fascist, as am I — but because honoring your mother and father is far more important than signaling games. Your mother and father are immanent, molecular parts of your life, whereas public signaling games have only to do with molar institutions. Verbal statements can significantly and advantageously affect interpersonal relationships (what Deleuze and Guattari mean in their discourses on collective “enunciation”), but as soon as you start making statements for the purpose of manipulating public consequences — you're captured. So it would never make sense to throw your father under the bus, even if he is a literal fascist, just to show some random journalist you’re on her team. Get it? Probably not! That’s why I’m writing Based Deleuze. I’ll also paste here the current table of contents, as of today.
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That's some good mythotechnesis
I think Justin is the anti-Land in this sense no?
ok Simon O'Sullivan.
in what sense? Land thinks Deleuze and Marx were crypto-right-wing
What does right mean hwre, though.
Only radical anarchists are anti-autoritarian, so if at least you grant Marx to support Lenin's thinking but exclude that as definitio , then he's probably right in a general sense, like anybody who's opposed to some other people
>Justin Murphy: So if you think about the left and the right as both superficial, strategic, social, molar formations, then they’re really kind of mutually reinforcing paranoiac simplifications, trying to deal with the unbearable anxieties of economic acceleration. If you try to do either one of them too seriously, you might find yourself popping out into the other one, but that’s not for any deep meaningful reason but simply because they’re both delusional or strategically simplified, ultimately disingenuous tracks along which contemporary society sends people down, or something like that?
>Nick Land: I think the terminology of left and right, for anyone like you who is fascinated by the question of ideology, it’s completely indispensable. I totally see why people get dissatisfied with that language and say “We have to move beyond this” or “This terminology ceases to be useful” but I have a sense of its kind of extreme resilience. I don’t see us ever stopping talking about the left and the right. It’s always going to come back in, I call it the prime political dimension, there is a basic dimension with left and right polarities that everyone returns to, after their wanderings and complications. And all kinds of ideological currents themselves have a strategic interest in either muddying the water or trying to get people to rethink what they mean.
>But in the end, people come back to this basic dimension of ideological possibility and I think it is the one that captures the accelerationist tendency most clearly. On the right end of that is the extreme laissez faire, Manchester liberal, anarcho-capitalism kind of commitment to the maximum deregulation of the technological and economic process. And on the opposite extreme is a set of constituencies that seek in various ways to — polemically, I would say words like “impede” and “obstruct” and “constrain” and whatever, but I realize that’s just my rightism on display. And there are other ways of saying that, to regulate it or control it or to humanize it, I wouldn’t try and do a sufficiently sophisticated ideological Turing test on myself to try and get that right you know?
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>But I don’t think there’s any real … It’s not really questionable, which of those impulses is in play and I think that it’s on that dimension that so-called left-accelerationism is left, I mean, it’s left because it is basically in a position of deep skepticism about the capitalist process. It’s accelerationist only insofar as it thinks there is some other — I would say magical — source of acceleration that is going to be located somewhere outside that basic motor of modernity. They gesture towards the fact that things will somehow still be accelerating when you just chuck the actual motor of acceleration in the scrap. And I think that is the left.
>Left-accelerationism is left in a way that is robust, that everyone will recognize, they definitely are in fact genuine leftists, they’re not playing games like that, and they catalyze, obviously, a right opposition as soon as they do that because they’re already [inaudible] the prime political dimension. They’re on the left pole of it, they’re in antagonism to, then, what is defining the right pole of that same spectrum.
>Justin Murphy: So it sounds like you would basically say that Deleuze and Guattari are not really leftists. They might be writing from a kind of leftist milieu, and they might have some, sort of, leftist connotations, but the core of their project is not leftist because … you think leftism is basically the position of trying to slow down the accelerator?
>Nick Land: Yes, I think that project is anti-leftist but smuggled-in — this insidious thing of subverting the Marxist tradition from inside. I think the Marxist tradition is easy to subvert from inside because the Marxist tradition is based upon an analysis of capitalism that has many very valuable aspects. And as soon as you’re doing that, then you are describing the motor of acceleration, and once you then make the further move that Deleuze and Guattari do — and Marx obviously at times does, too — of actually embracing the kind of propulsion that that motor is is generating, then you’re there. I mean, you’ve already crossed the line.
He's like a version of Dave Rubin who spent too much time in the academy and didn't do enough drugs to be as interesting as Nick Land.
What happened to Justin, did he get kicked out of his uni job or what?
He got fired for comparing abortion to necrophilia on twitter
Who is this
Justin 'I made out with my rich Jewish gf right after she sucked some guy off' Murphy.
I saw an interview with justin murphy once and he just seemed like a really naive young man who was starting to learn about philosophy. Is he a big deal or something?
he's the popular here because he's an example of getting semi-successful academically through the use of lit memes with a limited philosophical background. accelerationist technobabble gets you places
>n-no im not a crypto-christian, the fact that this is blatantly ripped off from christian teachings and shoehorned into my philosophy is just an accident
He is open about being Catholic
atheist catholic
If anything, incorporating edgy memes killed his academic career.
Atheist catholic marxist anarchist unconditional accelerationist
What is Deleuzo-Petersonianism?
I won't hold not being a junky against him.
He's actually one of the few people online who actively work on some interesting ideas: I have no idea if it's a good thing to try and just make money over the web. I, for one, have a few Bitcoin and seriously doubt whether the job I do - which I do merely because I like it and my colleagues - stands between myself and me doing something interesting
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Where’s the fault?
deluse?
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the interior of murphy's anus probably even looks like a beautiful swirly rock formation in the desert. i'd spend all my time looking in it too if i was that lucky. so jealous
well..yeah, wtf. That's like saying 1+1=2
He cute.
wtf Land sounds very fair there. couldn't be further from his twitter persona
the whole interview is worthwhile, it's both in podcast and transcript form
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he's playing a character on Twitter
why?
he's using metafiction as a guide to reality
hyperstition