A group of missionaries reach Alaska and preach the gospel to a tribe of Eskimo. When told about the necessity of following Jesus to gain salvation, an eskimo asks, " So, did all my relatives who died without knowing about Jesus go to hell then?"
The missionary responds, "No, since they didn't know."
"Then why did you tell me?"
How does the Church respond to this? How do you?
>inb4 muh atheism >inb4 any comment from butterfly
The paradox is solved by reading Dante. They end up in eternal limbo, neither in hell nor in Heaven. The missionary came to tell them because he wants them to go to Heaven
Blake Hill
Dante isn't scripture, you blasphemous heretic.
Joshua Gray
>the Church The Roman Catholic church rejects proselytism for this reason. Missionaries are supposed to attract those called by their grace in actions not in words.
Hudson Roberts
OP you already lost by trying to use logic to argue against religion. Seriously, move on, enjoy life, stop thinking about other people's delusional beliefs.
Brandon Hughes
Even aborted fetuses and little muslim babies go to hell. People tell themselves otherwise so that they don't take offense to God but they do take offense and that's why they don't accept the scripture for its words.
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
Kevin Sanders
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Caleb Kelly
> stop thinking about other people's delusional beliefs
Isn't this what philosophy is?
Adam Diaz
So you're cool with worshiping a God who does this?
>The missionary responds, "No, since they didn't know." But that's actually false, they did in fact go to hell. So the missionaries are telling them what to do to to not suffer the same fate.
A mortal sin requires 1) Grave Matter 2) Deliberate Consent 3) Full Knowledge
Since those who didn't know the gospel or the law can't have full knowledge, then they can't commit mortal sin and thus can't go to hell.
Leo Parker
people believing in God and worshiping him is good. We should further the amount of good in the world. Therefore, more people should believe in and worship God. Pretty simple.
David Gonzalez
>who fucking cares why i did it, you're fucked now
A good missionary would’ve have simply said this because it is actual biblical truth
There is no Eskimo paradox, just a missionary trying to lie to get converts and getting his dopey ass called out
Jordan Reed
>being obtuse as an underhanded attempt to quickly win an argument
If sin is on their heads then they are set for damnation. Pretty basic stuff, dummy.
Thomas James
Explain this then.
Jose Carter
Source?
Bentley Bennett
You're fine with your god arbitrarily sending people to ETERNAL (we must stress that) torment even though they (1) did nothing worthy of such a punishment and (2) didn't know about god's supposedly "merciful" escape route
Grayson Flores
Christians don't understand what words like "Consent" and "Guilt" mean.
good allegory for the self-propagating nature of social systems and technology in general actually
Jacob Cooper
Yeah and those Christians are going to hell.
Nathan Stewart
>"Then why did you tell me?" So you can go to heaven
Ayden Anderson
Yes all his relatives went to hell, that's the jizz of it. This in a Christian world view he is considered blessed since God has selected and elected him for this appointment
Aiden Carter
Christians are vicious arrogant scum
Oliver Peterson
It's a false paradox. To be a virtuous pagan that goes to heaven not only requires that the pagan know nothing of Christ, but that he exhibits virtue that is almost impossible to achieve without God's grace which can only come from the Catholic Church. Bishop Barron can a little squirrels in speaking hard truths because he wants to appeal to everyone, but I have no qualms. Your ancestors probably didn't go to heaven and I'm sharing the gospel with you not just because I want you to go to heaven, but because God commanded us to spread the word.
David Hernandez
>Barron can a little squirrels I mean he can be squirrelly.
Jose Jones
Church should kill itself so everyone could go to heaven
Easton Thompson
Barron hasn't talked about this. I just used his picture as a meme.
Andrew Morris
>t. the atheist
Xavier Murphy
He has talked about it. He said there was reasonable hope that hell was empty and that everyone can be saved when talking to a bunch of atheists, which is borderline universalism.