What were Stoner's greatest mistakes?

What were Stoner's greatest mistakes?

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Marrying

None

Raping his sister

Being a boring dumbass and not getting the fuck out of Missouri. And just quietly deciding to let the mistress who made him happy leave.

This is just from reading the Wiki summary no way I'm reading that book.

Also: haha weed.

Holy shit, it sounds like a really good plot from just reading the wiki article. I feel like crying desu.

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Destroying their mind and future with recreational drug use

This book sucks and is boring

He should have skipped down with his mistress

wtf was Edith's problem?

He didn't kill those fucking cripples when he had the chance.

I keep hearing this from this ongoing thread.
Another book could explain the psychological makeup of her

It's impressive how everything you say is dumb as fuck

No prequel for you. Stop asking.

Are you actually a tranny or a full blown woman, I just saw a post that said you regret going on HRT but I've also seen pictures of you which look quite female, you obviously want attention so please clarify

This. If that isn’t evident from Williams’s sympathetic portrayal idk what to tell you.

Not joining the war xd

That’s some doctored slander. I am a woman.

based and womanpilled

Not fighting harder for his daughter. The rest are forgivable as personal failures, but more was at stake with Grace.

Smoked too much got dam weed

this, boy was fucking with that chem weed, after that he really wasn't the same person anymore

This. Grace really never had a chance between a neurotic mother and feckless father.

It was probably a mistake, considering the consequences, but I admired him in the moment as he stood up to Lomax and Walker. At least he had principles and pride in his field, if nothing else.

Being a women. Her mother was the same way, which brought up Edith like that.

There are pictures of butterfly?

There are a few archived, not sure where to find them anymore. She's like 6.5/10

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I want her to choke me with her man hands

leaving the womb

a coward
he should've gone to Nam

I accidentally ran into the original painting from the cover of Stoner while at a museum recently. It was by the large painting or George Washington crossing the Delaware, which I went to see. The story of the man in the Stoner painting is interesting.

If anything, Masters told him that if he stayed instead of going to war, he would be doomed to the university. Although it's true, Stoner had little regrets about it, and most of his life itself.

Reading this now, when does he start smoking DUDE WEED LMAO?

Is Stoner a thinking man’s Catcher in the Rye?

Never sticking to and fully exploring a single passion or mode of being, unlike Stoner with literature and stoicism.

He should have studied agriculture and returned to the family farm as he had originally planned and as he had promised to his parents. He would have found greater meaning in the silences of their time than in all the books and poetry he would come to read.

Edith was raised in a way that made her incapable of actually living.

she was never in love
married out of caprice
never had any fulfilling talent or any job
bad mother
half-mad
a complete woman

Everything, that's what i took away from it. The exact opposite way you should live your life. Also not divorcing his shit wife and making a life with that student. He gave up the only thing in his life that was worth anything except his love of literature for his job family etc. This book is a cautionary tale. God is it sad.

Being a passive stoic all his life. Letting his ruined marriage continue, letting his wife taking away his daughter, letting her move him to a cuckshed, letting his mistress away, letting Lomax push him around. He lived his life as a codriver.
Funnily enough the only time he stood up for something was when arguably he should stay passive. The whole Walker incident

Is it strange that I think Stoner's life was a success? I always hear that people think the book was very sad, but when I read it(only a week ago) I felt a sort of melancholy happiness, a little sad, but the feeling when a person who has lived a good life has died

this was the author's opinion
anyone pondering this book should read the foreword to Augustus

incredibly wrong. did you even read the book?

The first chapter and a degree from the University of Missouri are all you need. The characterization of rural people, farming, and the society of the time period are insultingly bad. If you can take the book seriously after that joke of a beginning, I've got a $200,000 student loan to sell you.

he liked studying literature and didn't like farming
>The characterization of rural people, farming, and the society of the time period are insultingly bad. If you can take the book seriously after that joke of a beginning, I've got a $200,000 student loan to sell you.
autism

literally a quick google search would tell you that he grew up in a rural area(born in 1922) and that his grandparents were farmers, basically around the same age as Stoners parents. What insight do you have into "rural people, farming, and the society of the time" which he didn't, or tell how he is wrong?

>smoked too much weed
>didn't go to the gym
>didn't kill his wife
>didn't take care of his alcoholic daughter
>didn't smash Lomax's had with a baseball bat

this. He lived an interesting life with many forgivable mistakes, but when I think of the seminal mistake he made it was letting go of his daughter. He was clearly the best influence on her and should have fought Edith harder.

He was an alcoholic for many years. Stoner is clearly a self-insert for himself, full of self-loathing at his own "small little life", but with enough of a heightened pride to justify his noble pursuit compared to the functional and utilitarian lifestyle of his parents and grand-parents. Why should I trust the insights about daily life from a man who needs a drink just to handle it? He disliked agriculture because he was immature. Had he studied agriculture, he would have been much happier. With time, he would have seen more poetry in planting the field than harvesting tired ink.

He fails to be assertive at every defining moment in his life. He was terrified of ever pulling the trigger and it lead to him losing out and missing all the chances of a happy life that came his way. It is a terrifying look at how quickly life can pass you by.

I thought this was spelled out pretty plainly. I found her to be an incredibly sympathetic character and I have to imagine people who despise Edith have never had to watch a loved one grow up into a miserable (not bad) person.

I grew up on a small dairy farm at the end of that generational paradigm and I felt the book made a sympathetic portrayal of his "simple folk" archetype parents. There are people actually like that and Williams did not convey to me a sense that he was generalizing all poor agrarians that way. And I felt that even though my experience was the exact opposite of Stoner (literally denied the opportunity to "return to the land" by my father's certainty of no future in it and the hard roadblock of my brother's alcoholism).

You grew up on a dairy farm in the 1920s?

She was a bad person though

getting stoned

At the end of my family's particular generational paradigm, smart guy. You can drive through the woods in my hometown and see where the forest has reclaimed farmhouses and the fields that were there as recently as the 80s.

Jesus Christ, that sentence was clarifying IRL individuals who are miserable (unhappy) without being bad.

nice reddit spacing
go back

That's not redd*t spacing, retard