he believes, one must study the five mathematical disciplines, namely arithmetic, plane geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, and harmonics.
after mastering mathematics, then one can proceed to the study of philosophy
well, Yea Forums?
Was Plato right?
Asher Long
Jacob Martin
>geometry
What was with the greeks and their autism with shapes?
James Reyes
bump
Owen Johnson
No.
Ian Murphy
Any good books on studying those topics? Haven’t done math since highschool and even then I don’t remember much so you can consider my knowledge to be as bad as middle school tier.
Michael Foster
they needed it before calculus was invented
Connor Powell
Whether you think he was right or wrong, what made him think this way?
Blake Flores
math is eternal, real and never changing
if you have a grasp in it you stop being a relativist cuck
Cooper Campbell
how does math in any way inform a philosophical stnce
Jaxon Barnes
the shapes and the numbers themselves are literally the closest we can get to forms
Jeremiah Torres
and?
Christopher Lopez
For Plato mathematical objects are a middle ground between the sensible world of flux and the eternal realm of the forms. It's only natural he would think one must learn math to reach the forms.
Keep in mind he thought dialectics (the method the philosopher use to apprehend the forms) was superior to mathematical reasoning.
Christopher Green
yes. Pretty much every philosopher I've read that didn't know any math (or science) wrote either a bunch of nonsense, or would be better referred to as a literary critic than a philosopher. This used to be completely uncontroversial.
Kayden Campbell
Depends what his definition of mastery is, I'm assuming it would have been extremely simple back then, right?
Are the higher echelons of mathematics that are taught in HS sufficient for this or are higher university-tier study required?
Jackson Long
>yfw one of the philosophers who most knew math and science was the most criticized one
Caleb Cox
yes. and philosophers who have no mathematical training cannot possibly grasp the true meaning of a lot of statements.
Michael Hughes
You do that in highschool
Gabriel Scott
... I think that should be Leibniz
Actually that should be more fitting to you
Charles Murphy
If you're good at math, you're good at philosophy. Math teaches analytic skills.
Ethan Hill
>implying Yea Forums considers analytic philosophy as geniune philosophy
>implying I'm good at reading Being and Time
Gabriel Bell
this
even /sci/ still doesn't get it.