IF YOU LIKE ____, YOU MIGHT LIKE ____ EDITION >Fill the blanks with authors, books or even themes >For example, >If you like Starship Troopers, you might like Old Man's War >If you like Greek mythology, you might like Circe >If you like Brent Weeks, you might be braindead >go >And don't forget to tell us what you're currently reading.
Monthly Reading for July: The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
What's some good epic fantasy from recent years? I haven't been keeping up and want to scratch my itch. Perfect if standalone, if not - definitely has to be a completed series. I'm looking for something brief and decently written, but not too cerebral. Is Red Sister any good? Something like Broken Empire fits the bill perfectly but I was really disappointed by Prince of Fools.
Lucas Flores
Just saw some asoiaf theory on youtube that says Andals are just Ghiscari who conceal it via media control (maesters and the faith of the seven). Not sure if it's batshit, but it fits into the themes grrm likes.
Cooper Phillips
When centuries pass you don't need media control to conceal your origin. I belong to an ethnicity with an unknown origin. There are many excellent guesses, and propaganda has swayed the public opinion one way, but even with modern historiography, we don't actually know. What would it matter if they were Ghiscari anyway?
Justin Ross
First Law if you haven't already read it
Lucas Morgan
It's a bit on the long side. Does the first book have an ending that gets you pumped up?
John Fisher
>T. Pukko Kalaminainen
Matthew Sanchez
No, way more obscure.
Ryan Allen
Working on a scene where the main character disguises itself in another guy's dead wife and lies to him and is given false hope about revival technology in order to hustle a secret out of him. They have sex and that's where the guy discovers he has been played in this utterly perverse game for the gain of other parties. It's supposed to be a really disturbing scene at the relative beginning of the book (first quarter or so) and it's at this point that the reader finally puts the pieces together and realizes how a fucked up society is there, as well as more clues about the greater plot. It's not all shock value though, and it serves to signify the MCs lack of human moral values, and put the MCs skills into actual action where it's only been mostly talk up until now.
Thanks to the basedboy that recommended this. I'm a quarter way through and it's been great, though it's written by a woman so I'm afraid the Princess is going to continue to be absolutely perfect, her brother will be incompetent or evil and she'll replace him and smash the patriarchy. But that hasn't happened yet so it's still great.
I unironically want to buy his book because the guy is genuine and comfy as fuck. I'm sure he's able to satisfy my EPIC fantasy hunger. Getting pretty tired of this whole "fantasy but not really fantasy" that we see lately. Unfortunately I live at the ass end of the world and I'm 100% I can't buy it here.
Julian Smith
Started Foundation trilogy. Is it really this bad all up to the end or does it get better when the Mule makes it into the story? Everyone I talked to said to just grind until the Mule then it all gets times better.
Brandon Richardson
kindle?
Grayson Jackson
Based Cazarils book. Watch out for the rare perspectives in which we see the MC through the eyes of others. They add a new dimension to the book.
Jeremiah Collins
Almost forgot. Monthly user is off having surgery to get rid of some unfortunate growths I'll be posting in his stead. We're reading Library at Mount Char this month, so yeah go read it. Don't be a faggot and whine like you always do "waah, why can't we read something good." "why do you always select shit books, waaah."
Red Sister is meme Lawrence's best book by far but that's not really hard since Broken Empire sucks balls. It's basically ninja nuns going to nun Hogwarts with Arya Stark as the protagonist. If you like dark shit like Broken Empire but want something good instead, try Prince of Nothing.
Justin Roberts
>Watch out for the rare perspectives in which we see the MC through the eyes of others. Are there other povs?
They're very rare and quite short. I can't recall exactly how many, might even be only once or twice but they're quite good because we get to see the stark difference between how Cazaril sees himself and how others view him.
Owen Robinson
>anyone's face when finding out Lindon is a Blackflame Underlord
I got memed into reading this book and really enjoyed it. It has a unique and interesting flavor, with a kind of loose, spitbally presentation that contrasts nicely with the bean-counting autism found in a lot of fantasy. Some will hate it but it's really worth a try.
Josiah Allen
Are you talking about the upcoming august book? I was pretty sure he only made True Gold at the end of the current material. Did he make Underlord already?
Aiden Hughes
I read it recently, I don't remember any other PoVs except his, unless you mean someone else speaking about him.
William Cox
both made underlord.
Joshua Cooper
All the monarchs already know. I want there to be some interaction between lindon and northstrider. I don't remember exactly but ghostwater bumped him up a lot and he just happened to stumble on the exact thing northstrider was trying to create.
Ethan Edwards
Lad, did you miss Underlord completely or something?
Will Wight seems to have read a lot of bad wuxias, he's picked up some worrying habits.
In the good ones the mc's usually progress by going through a shit ton of battles and overcoming obstacles, in the bad ones they pop pills, eat fruit and luck into fortuitous encounters that give them a huge boost, Skysworn was basically that. There's no consistency in Lindon's progression and nowhere near enough battles or good villains so far. The villain in Underlord was a fucking moron straight out of the discount store for underlords.
Not a fan of an AI in his head doing everything for him either, that's straight out of trash wuxias like Warlock Magus which has the laziest of lazy writing. There's a fight? Let the AI plan the battle for you (Which kind of is already being used in Cradle), need a potion? Let the AI calculate and brew it for you and ta-da it's more potent than anyone else can make it!
Dylan Young
this book sucks
Landon Brooks
It's been a while since I've read it, maybe I'm misremembering but I swear I thought there was at least one minor pov. Maybe you're right and it was just someone else talking about him.
Gavin Walker
>Hell Divers series >4/5 star reviews on most sites ''OH GOSH GOLLY BEST SHIT EVER'' shit taste or the books are actually decent?
I'm reading The Ghost Brigades, book 2 of The Old Man's War series. Went on a bit of a John Scalzi binge these past 2 weeks and finished Consuming Fire, Old Man's War, and Red Shirts. I was reading New York 2140 but getting through it was such a drag that I dropped it about a quarter of the way in. Some characters were fun to read, others I couldn't stand.
Tyler Moore
Screen the top reviewers, if they have no profile pics or they ugly motherfuckers then it's good. If the top reviewers are 16 year old girls with gifs in their reviews, it means the book is shit.
Henry Taylor
I was memed into reading this last week, it's consistently great
Andrew Jenkins
I feel like he's setting lindon up to fail horribly before some redemption arc. Over the course of the books lindon has been greedily popping pills and taking shortcut after shortcut. At first you felt it was deserved since he got screwed over but he just got greedier and greedier.
Tyler Harris
>Will Wight seems to have read a lot of bad wuxias cradle is xanxia not wuxia.
Parker Williams
Now read Vorkosigan Saga also by LMB, a comfy af space opera, for a book written by a lefty in the 80's and has great female characters. The difference in writing quality between her writing and sjw hack authors of today will blow your mind even though both broach similar topics.
Xavier Brown
I'm extremely tempted after Chalion. Pretty exhausted though, had to spend that entire book with Cazaril on chemo.
Jason Hall
It's xianxia not xanxia and themes of progression are largely similar between both genres. Disregarding dao, it's the world setting and power levels that mainly differ, one is low fantasy the other is high, one is break a tree level while the other is break a planet level. Yes Cradle is technically closer to xianxia but my point still stands.
Landon Watson
Everyone’s telling him there’s a point where you can’t cheat anymore and he keeps cheating and cheating. That’s why he lost his arm.
Gabriel Green
>implying the villain in under lord was a villain The real villain of the book was Charity. That poor prince didn’t do anything wrong.
Sebastian Cooper
>chemo Did you get memed into reading Brent Weeks. Unfortunate mate, happens to the best of us. Hope you get better soon.
Austin Williams
I mean, I think it's just fan service at this point, no disrespect to Will Wight but that's not a level of writing I expect to see from him. I'll be happy to be proven wrong but I don't think there will ever be any real "consequences" to him taking shortcuts and cheating. Even the arm he had to replace will eventually end up giving him a huge power spike, it's already been set up for exactly that.
Luis Harris
Probably setting it up so his psycho little brother becomes a villain later on. Also I'm curious how being stronger affects aging. Pretty sure charity and malice were both described as young looking but other strong characters were old. So is it just altering your appearance to look younger or can they de age themselves
Elijah Miller
Bought G Willow Wilson's The Bird King lads.
I should have listened to the reviews and waited for the Sharkhai book tomorrow. I'm only a few pages in and it already sucks
Christian Phillips
I'll confirm many of the Miles books are great. Yes, it is Hornblower in Space, but the female touch adds just a bit of soap opera so it reads more like Patrick O'brian. Some times she goes to far and eventually it ran out of gas for me, but even given that the overall experience is a thousand to one in favor of reading it anyway. Filled with sharp little smart and funny character meets action moments. Many satisfying books.
Jesus christ how much anime does Brandon Sanderson watch
Adam Morales
Alright, bros. Gonna finally start reading WE WUZ CONANZ N' SHEEIT tonight. Hopefully I wasn't meme'd into reading this simply because the writer and protag are black and it turns out to be some solid S&S in a DINDU NUFFIN setting.
I'm enjoying it so far. And I love this nigga for using the word "thews" unironically.
William Wood
Sincerity as thick and unbreakable as Imaro's abs.
Jayden White
/sffg/ have you ever read a food description that got so stuck in your head you just had to taste it?
I got that from Mistborn of all things. There's this tiny little throwaway scene in the beginning where Kelsier compliments some cupcakes with red frosting and my mind automatically constructed an image of dark, chocolaty cupcakes with swirls of hot cinnamon icing on top. To this day I can't let the image go.
James Ross
Depending on what your issues are, FUCK therapy, just get a psychiatrist and get them to prescribe you some sweet sweet meds Meds do wonders
Henry Wright
I'm on book 11 of wheel of Time, Ive read the whole of Brandon sandersons cosmere and all of sword of Truth by Terry goodkind Along with king killer chronicle (book 3 when) What would be a good recommendation next >I prefer series >Fantasy >A really good standalone would work
Nicholas Richardson
KJ Parker, The Color in the Steel
Carson Kelly
Do people enjoy Cradle? I couldn't get past first couple chapters of the first book awhile back. It felt like regurgitated xianxia tropes thrown together--not enjoyable at all. Then again, the only xianxia I like is Maoni, and he is more xuanhuan with daoist elements, I suppose
Daniel Scott
I'm on meds. I've been on a double-regiment of meds and therapy since I was nine
Matthew Evans
There's a throwaway line in The Caves of Steel that references "zymoveal" a a cheap artificial foodstuff, and something about the name really stuck with me. Even though it was supposed to be low-class food I always imagined it as something delicious with the consistency of beef tongue.
David Phillips
Gay, sorry senpai Therapy didn't do shit for my depression so I just do meds and I'm fine now
Evan Rivera
I'll check it out
Hudson Martin
You know what writers need to use more of? Exclamation points. It's baffling to me why so many writers don't use these for action scenes. Just putting an exclamation point at the end of a sentence describing some great action adds a bit more excitement to it and makes the scene pop off the page more.
Liam Collins
Have you guys tried exercise and/or probiotics?
Ayden Baker
this sentence is exciting! this sentence is exciting. I think the prose should do the work. Using punctuation to denote excitement is like the signs that tell sitcom audiences when to laugh.
Jacob Peterson
Eh, I don't know. I prefer changes in sentence structure more, staccato sentences and such. Exclamations have a bit of a cheap feel to them.
Nolan Flores
Exclamations marks aren't used in typical prose because they're associated with the use of character voice. The voice of prose defaults to being neutral and nonjudgmental, and thus unable to express excitement. When that voice starts adding exclamation points, it starts making judgements on what is exciting and what isn't, and it thus becomes a character in the story. Most writers avoid this unless the narrator is indeed a character, because otherwise just adds complication to what is supposed to just be superstructure. You will find a fair amount of exclamation marks in prose, but mainly with first-person or third-person-limited stories, where the expressions of excitement are explicitly the judgement of a character within the story. Mostly the same applies to question marks.
Jordan Parker
Except your own examples prove your point wrong. And yes it depends on the context: not every sentence describing action should end with an exclamation point. Also you say the prose should do the work and I would argue the vast majority of writers do not have interesting enough prose for that to work alone in getting the excitement across in an action scene. An exclamation point here and there would work wonders in that regard.
Bentley Young
>Exclamations marks aren't used in typical prose because they're associated with the use of character voice. The voice of prose defaults to being neutral and nonjudgmental, and thus unable to express excitement. lol I'm sorry, but this is a load of bullshit. I've read so many stories written decades ago when the quality of prose writing was much higher that used exclamation points for third-person narratives and it works just fine. There is no rule in writing that claims what you claim.
Evan Rogers
Read some Xianxia and you'll get enough interrogation marks to last a lifetime in the first five paragraphs.
Alexander Thomas
It's not an either/or situation. And read my post here about most writers not being talented enough to make their action scenes as exciting as they could be without using an exclamation point here and there.
Zachary Ross
I avoid any strenuous exercise. The main reason I was in therapy at age 9 was that I got horrible panic attacks that ruined my early life. Anything that gets my heart rate up feels too much like a panic attack. Add to that the fact that I've got flat feet and lack both flexibility and coordination, and you end up with my only viable form of exercise being long walks over flat terrain.
As for probiotics, I'm 99% certain those only work for digestive issues and any other medicinal use is debunked
Mason Cox
As I mentioned, third-person-limited narration freely makes use of exclamation marks. Most examples you're considering are presumably of this type.
Jack Ramirez
The narrator was more of a character in those. Modern writing tends to use more deep POV, where the "camera" follows one character at a time but very closely, and it would be jarring to shift from this cold, academic tone to the narrator nudging up to you and winking or shouting.
Lincoln Myers
>I'm 99% certain those only work for digestive issues yeah, the broscience is that depression is (can be) a digestive issue, as the gut sends a lot of signals to the brain.
Jose Hernandez
I definitely agree to an extent, exclamations just don't feel very powerful, though. Compared to changes in spacing/sentence structure, they just feel cheap. Not that I think they can't be used or anything, but surely it's as easy to use them improperly as it is to omit them improperly. As it stands, I can't say I notice exclamations, and that feels like the right amount. But, it depends on what we've been reading, eh?
Ayden Miller
doubled checked it. According to Harvard, it's being researched but so far there have been no case studies with a suitably large sample size and the results they've found are mixed. The bro science sounds reasonable based on what I know about the digestive tract, but I'm going to need actual evidence before I back it.
In the mean time, my options are either look for a therapist, or wait for my mood swings to swing me in the right direction
Henry Baker
As I said: it depends on the context. Too many exclamation points and it will feel like you're reading a comic book from the 60s written for children. Just the right amount for the right scenes make them pop more. I've read too many modern books with action scenes that feel like a tired college professor is describing them because they lack that extra pop of excitement and an exclamation point here and there would at least add SOMETHING to that action; regardless if you or anyone else believe their use to be "cheap." Yes if a writer has fantastic prose he really wouldn't need to use them or at least use them all that much, but I'm sure we're all in agreement that great prose writers are few and far between for modern fiction.
Jeremiah Rogers
I figure it's cheap and yogurt won't hurt me. I feel like I get a positive effect from it for situational depression, maybe it's just a placebo effect but that's better than nothing.
Luis Bennett
Yeah, but I disagree that proper use is going to even somewhat elevate otherwise bad writing. It's too much a finesse rather than substance. I feel if the writer can't just write better, increasing their exclamation quota will just result in the 60s comic book vibe that you describe.
Chase Martinez
Just got in to reading again.
Have read: Lotr 1984 asoiaf DUNE
What are som other essential Fantasy and Sci-fi Books?
Carson Green
gib dl link for dis
Benjamin Thomas
Foundation Neuromancer
William Gomez
I have Iain M. Banks's The Player of Games on paper. Do you need to read the first book, before it?
Gabriel Bell
No. You can read that book without having read any of the other Culture novels.
It took me 6 years to reach book 10 of malazan. Its great but it fucking drags. My edition of book 9 is nearly 1300 pages.
Austin Hernandez
Have there been any decent sword and sorcery in recent years? I've got a soft spot for all of those old Conan and Fafhrd and Grey Mouser stories. I've read all the usual classic recommendations, but most modern fantasy is all multi-book "epic" fantasy trying to cash in on that Game of Thrones money.
The first two, and then books 5 and 6, are really great. It really starts to drag on with Reaper's Gale and Toll the Hounds, and well into Dust of Dreams. The last book is good though.
I actually really enjoyed book 7 and 8. They could be boring at times but the plots converging at the end made it wlrth it.
Connor Campbell
Song of ice and fire
Nathan Murphy
actually I stopped reading around when the mule comes in, but I loved he story up till then...
Jose Fisher
this
I probably spent more time just reading asoiaf theories than reading most other fantasy series
Logan Perez
wtf did I just read... This kid is literally retarded
Brody Ross
*when you try your hardest to fit in on Yea Forums*
Asher Cook
I want to read something. I'm most interested in either one of these >a vampire book No sci-fi vampires, please. >a female protagonist Must be a good character, ideally a young slut with a personality. >a good betrayal story Horus Heresy is a good example even if most of the books are shit. Just something about brother against brother, a civil war, whatever. >an edgy story Something that starts off normally, but then only awful, awful things happen to the main characters. Super high points if the deaths are creative and nightmare-inducing
William Scott
'I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream' fits the edgy story. It's a short story though so it will only last you a few minutes
Aaron Nelson
I've read that and played the game. Pretty good. But yeah, I was hoping about something longer. It's so easy to find manga that's basically torture-porn, but somehow, even though writing is way less effort, it's super rare to find edgy books. At most you'll just get a completely average book into which some neckbeard inserts his weird fetish at times.
Blake Green
Dis nigga trigga'd lol
Gavin Diaz
Is there anyone here over 25 that still enjoys fiction as much as they did when they were kids? I want to learn this skill.
Carson Morris
You can come back to it again after you've been completely disappointed by adult life.
Brayden White
I already am disappointed by both.
Joseph Morgan
Stop reading kids books.
Robert Mitchell
So all fiction is for kids?
Jaxson Johnson
>or can they de age themselves This. Women love looking young. And when you reach a certain point, you can remake your body how you wish.
Easton Sanchez
The unattractive vampire, kinda.
Adrian Johnson
Is Mark Lawrence really any good? I only read Prince of Fools and shit reads like a marvel movie in book format
Adrian Morris
I've read the first 3 or so chapters and upon FIRST GLANCE, I wasn't even particularly looking for anything of the sort, I can safely say that Shad's style is distinctly Sandersonesque. My God almighty, it's basically Stormlight archive in another setting. The colorful culture, the balls to the wall fantasy elements, the names, the dialogue, the humor. Shad even God damn looks like Sanderson. Not to complain though, I am excited to read it, the premise alone is interesting enough for me, and psst I actually like Sanderson, Mistborn is in my too 5 books of all time
Zachary Gutierrez
Cradle needs more vicious slaughtering of enemies also tearing weeds up by the roots
About half way through this and it's been pretty dank so far. Have no idea why Saunders didn't become a big name in fantasy considering he's the first black writer to ever write Sword & Sorcery. And he's still writing to this day. I guess because his fantasy wasn't 'woke' garbage? Who knows. Either way I'm digging this book.
Because it's a series that is better the more you reread it.
Josiah Lewis
Probably a few reasons. Sword and sorcery is seen, for whatever reason, as "safe." Maybe there's blood and gore and evil spells but look at that black man with a black woman on the cover, not controversial at all. Delaney, though, Delaney's going to give you some messed up stuff, and the academy will SURELY accept SFF as literature with him!
Easton Allen
Culture novels are in a non-chronological sequence and almost none of them share characters or even events. You can read them in pretty much any order you want
John Stewart
If I press not interested on literally everything will goodreads start reccing me different books?
Almost everything I've read of late is contemporary and it keeps recommending shitty adventure/romance scifi from the 80s that nobody ever paid attention to
Ayden Jones
also after going through some books that did seem interesting like half the stuff it's reccing is stealth gay erotica lol
Lucas Powell
I enjoy it more than I did at 18, at least. My taste for fiction all but disappeared in my late teens and came back in my late 20s.
Aaron Taylor
Maybe their AI is trying to tell you something.
Leo Hernandez
Are the Three Body sequels any better than the first book? It seemed like Golden Age scifi, and not in a good way. It's enough of a phenomenon for me to be inclined to keep reading but I'm wondering if there's a positive change in quality.
It's baby's first non-mainstream fantasy adventure
Austin Sullivan
this is a joke meme book. hyperion is the worst Sci fi book/series I've ever read and I've read star wars books before
William Bennett
Why do you say that? The books can be pretentious and the author has way too much of a hard-on for John Keats, but overall they present unique and interesting ideas well. Endymion is shit tho
Xavier Thomas
Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance novels.
Brody Williams
>send a girl a lotr meme >"i don't get it" >she's a fan of got and played wow How the fuck did you not see lotr?
Asher Kelly
My self made fantasy novels from my time as a GM.
Chase Nguyen
Why did you happen to choose to read that?
Sebastian Butler
I bet Sanderson doesn't have realistic and/or authentic medieval torches or doorsteps
Austin Fisher
Genuine question here lads, but why does everyone love Sanderson? Everyone outside of this board won't shout about him but his prose, dialogue, characters and pacing is all off. I got meme'd into reading Mistborn (just the first 3 thankfully) and the only praise I can give it is the magic was well worked out. Not particularly interesting but no major asspulls with it that I can remember. So, why do people like him so much? Is this his worst series and I should try another or is he a living meme?
Samuel Long
He's casual friendly and his books read like a vydia gaem.
Slightly less useful than it could be because they use such a broad definition that even Harry Potter gets some rape-points on its scorecard.
Christopher Ward
This is how you use goodreads to your advantage. List all the genre you likes, then list books you like and dislike. The ones you like give them 5 stars, the ones you don't give them one. Go to books you like and read reviews. If someone matches how you feel about a book, go to their profile and compare books. If you see they read and liked books you read and liked, follow or befriend them. You can read the other books they read and see if you like those. Follow people that update regularly with books you like, and read those. Remember, if you put you like graphic novels, you will get those recs. Sort out your category.
Don't like young adult books. Don't befriend people with pictures of gifs in their reviews, nor pictures of the book at the beach or on a table in some artsy photoshot. Don't befriend people that talk about female representation, or complains a lot about rape. I know it would seem productive to find the books these female representation anti-rapists would dislike and read it, but it ends up counterintuitive. Follow these and you should be swimming in recs.
Julian Foster
Because women are a meme
Tyler Long
Three meme problem is shit. They chinks are trying to recover from their trade war, so no shills(all Chinese btw) will come out to expound on it's greatness.
What a lot of readers take for granted these days are readily available books. When Sanderson came out years ago the Kindle and self publishing wasn't a game changer like it is today. You had to rely on publishing houses to get your fix. And there were some shitty shitty books being published. It's why Sanderson, Brent Weeks, Rothfuss, Abercrombie, etc blew up like they did. Readers were fed up of the old shit and asspull magic that were used for decades. These new authors brought fresh air. Now with self publishing you get even more books. For people who read all the popular old shit, these new guys were amazing. It doesn't hurt that Sanderson is an Mormon A.I. deep think project. He releases multiple books every year. It's why self published is so successful now. No one wants to wait multiple years for one book of 400 pages, when you can have at least 2 300 page books every year.
Jason Davis
Make it into a macro. This is an image board. Not opening any google link.
Adam Davis
Why don't you have a kys option in your strawpoll?
Bentley Foster
Polgara a cute. >a female protagonist The Deed Paksenarrion Dragonsbane Ironhand's Daughter by Gemmel and Ash by Mary Gentle if you want a slut (ash is historical fantasy tho) >a good betrayal story The Seer King Trilogy this one is kinda edgy too
Connor Cruz
What a scumsucking shitter chart.
Cameron Reyes
You make this general a better place by posting pointless nonsense.
Justin Gomez
>KJ Parker Redpill me on him
Jeremiah Nelson
Yeah, they're much better. Go from this "psyche science was actually BETTER than we thought and the aliens were holding us back" to how we actually prepare for the invasion, why after hearing nothing from other intelligent life in the entire universe we found it in the star next door, and then some crazy stuff in the third book.
Sebastian Clark
PLEASE HELP
I'm 20 y/o and have only read 2 real books in my whole life. Can someone recommend me a book that is good yet simple and easy to get into? Also my reading-speed is tragically slow so not i can't read 800+ page books. :)
Levi Powell
The Phantom Tollbooth
Hunter Powell
Yeah the sequels are great desu I enjoyed each more and more, feels much less generic as it goes on Has some genuinely interesting ways of looking at society and solving problems
Parker Gomez
>fantasy euro setting but the euro is researched and the fantasy is muted >magic is mostly "the Principle" that you can study all your life but you need to be a prodigy to use, and it mostly messes with people's luck and destiny (mostly for the worse) >comfy siege engineering SoL segments >family drama that kicks you in the gut, how on earth can these people be so nasty to each other, it just keeps happening, I thought we hit rock bottom two books ago >no maps
Nathan Nelson
Not a book but read the short story The Last Question
Matthew Price
Finnegan's Wake. It's about a guy who dies and gets reincarnated by having vinegar sprinkled on him. A very easy, comedic read. Don't read the synopsis because some of them spoil the book. Just pirate it.
William Thomas
lol
Asher Miller
the short story format is great for sci fi. philip k. dick and isaac asimov both have a lot of great short stories, and the machine stops by e.m. forster is unironically the best piece of dystopian fiction ever written
Kayden Collins
>>magic is mostly "the Principle" that you can study all your life but you need to be a prodigy to use, and it mostly messes with people's luck and destiny (mostly for the worse) Sounds bretty gud. Where do I start?
Robert Howard
I started with The Color in the Steel, some cool mongol action in there.
Caleb Hughes
Sabriel
Jackson Watson
The Hobbit
Leo Sanchez
because it's fantasy written by Jack Vance. I just found out somehow that he wrote a big fantasy novel and almost immediately got on the internet and ordered it. it's very good. the only thing I can think to complain about is that I didn't like about half of the character names
People like to read it and pretend it makes sense, then say "look how smart I am for reading this book"
Benjamin Rodriguez
get an audio book first. also I give you Corvis Rebaine 1 : The Conqueror’s Shadow by Ari Marmell
>In the realm of Imphallion, there once was a nightmare—a living nightmare known only as the Terror of the East. Nigh invulnerable in his magical black armor and aided by unholy minions, he laid waste to all in his path on his all-consuming quest to bring order to the land. His order.
>Then, at what should have been his moment of triumph, his will failed. And his army fell. Taking a young noblewoman as hostage, he escaped, vanishing into darkest memory.
>Years later, Corvis Rebaine is a simple man, content with his loving wife and children. The terrible deeds and glories of his past life are dead and buried along with his former name and its monstrous legacy—until his daughter is taken by fiends under a maniacal young warlord looking to complete the Terror’s conquest.
Lincoln Hall
The genre itself is shit.
Owen Morris
You endure the brittle, unstimulating prose, dry expository dialogue and stay with it for the marvellously unique world and weird, albeit fun power games of the story. Sorry, theres not really any other way. Keep at it. The next books are even stranger.
Tyler Perry
Check the last chart or the thread before that for the dune chart.
get an audio book. Its like a movie with nothing but narration. In the end I was so tired of dune that I did not pick up the second book.
Daniel Anderson
Reading Children of Dune after reading Dune and Dune Messiah in two weeks each. I'm really enjoying the series so far. God Emperor has me excited to get to that one.
Landon James
>Harry Potter gets some rape-points on its scorecard. yeah. looked to Winternight Trilogy then read the description and it was the most banal thing ever. reminds me of how tvtropes people "extrapolate" pages worth of characterization from 1 line.
Ian Moore
It's too big to be a convenient image. Just open it in a pornmode/incognito tab. Apparently yes.
Jayden Lopez
Anyone read A Planet Called Treason? I picked it up hoping it would be full on sci fi but it's got a fantasy setting and, while so far it isn't bad, I can't help but feel a little let down by the expectations I had. I forgot where I was going with this. I guess what I wanna ask is, is it gud?
Parker Moore
>it's got a fantasy setting No it doesn't, unless A Planet Called Treason is that different from Treason. It is pretty good, hero gets to go around and find out what all these elites that got exiled here made their descendants git gud at, my favorite were the slutty Polynesian philosophy grads that could control time.
Isaac Lee
yes. In fact thats graphicaudio's tag line. save your time >rape >exists in the setting, won't happen Does not rape exist in any setting where all the characters are not kept from rape by all powerful magic or no one has sex of any kind?
Lucas Hughes
Narnia. The Horse and His Boy and Dawn Treader in particular are the ones i enjoyed the most.
Xavier Ward
NK Jemisin?
NK Jemisin
Luis Nelson
>Red Rising >lots of violence towards women ? Is not it set in a military academy where they all fight each other?
There doesn't seem to be any demand for actual page numbers, their factchecking seems lax as fuck.
Connor Hernandez
there is very clearly a single plot throughout the book even if you ignore the king arthor reimagining that it is. the prophecy with sudrun and the kings desire to take over the isles and jip the prophecy. it runs though the entire bookand begins and ends on it.
I need a book that is a good example for an aspiring writer.
Reading Shadow of the Torturer, but I'm not sure how it will help me. Read Fahrenheit 451, and I guess it can help with my imagery use. I'm looking for a modern day book that has good balance between events/plot and worldbuilding.
Gavin Jenkins
Hey could you guys check out my story and let me know if you like it?
I haven't read it but it's been on my radar for some time, user
Justin Green
>Tfw no hyper intelligent mouse bro who will drink beer, eat pretzels and watch Yankee games while being my wingman for art hoes
Where do I get a mouse bro like Algernon?
Mason Rogers
how to describe yourself as the world's biggest faggot
Oliver Hughes
Children was really the weakest in my opinion. God emperor is obviously good, but the best book is Heretics followed by Chapterhouse.
Dylan Phillips
read the parker books or stainless steel rate they're both short very fun pulp series
Anthony Bell
KJ Parker's gimmick is basically "what if grimdark/gritty tragifantasy had a good writer"
Sebastian Foster
Does the cute girl from the cover dies?
Carson Richardson
I honestly thought Name of the wind was alright, very meandering and overly in love with itself but it was a fun read. Everything I remembering hating about the series was in the second book but it was so bad that I think it retroactively ruined the first for me and highlighted all of the flaws I'd happily ignored the first time.
Tyler Nelson
It was good when i read it at 15 having only read harry potter and a few other books
Nolan Lee
I was skeptical because the author has won so many (((awards))), but started last night because of this thread. Pretty good so far
Caleb Clark
Uh oh, watch out with the f-word, tranny jannies might ban you
No. Its very bad. Neither smut nor enough story. Its a weird mix of both where neither is the focus and they muddle with each other.
Robert Stewart
Are there any really, really long series that retain a consistent narrative, remain cohesive, don't drag too much. and most importantly, have a satisfying conclusion? I guess I'm looking for something I can read and go on an adventure for a few months.
Nathaniel Davis
Finished this today and I enjoyed it even when it felt like the pacing was all over the place, definedly one of my favourite first books by an author. Any other good "coming-of-age" low magic fantasy settings out there in mature perspective? Also, I have been looking for good fantasy/sci-fi settings in deserts or other harsh environments like in Dune.
For the love of god don't read this until the sequel comes out. It's good even if it does suffer from being a multi-pov book where one pov is the clear protagonist But the entire book is basically worldbuilding and setup with an ending that is just further setup, so it's an utter cocktease to read with a year or so to wait for a sequel and try to not forget what happened in it.
Download or buy the Del Rey collections and read ONLY those and not just for Conan, but for Howard's other characters as well if you're interested in his other creations. They collected the stories in the order they were WRITTEN.
>Howard's Conan >Chronology Stop it. There is no chronology.
Isaiah Gray
Just reread That Hideous Strength last month, it's so good but you have to reeeally love Lewis.
I'd say Gerard Klein, I've tried to meme him a couple times but didn't see any traction. Overlords of War has these super-advanced knights riding time-traveling beasts escaping the hell-dimension aliens put us in to teach us manners.
Joseph Perez
>There is no chronology But there is. Why would you read Conan as a jumbled, disconnected mess when you could read it as a sprawling epic and watch him grow from barbarian to thief to general to king? Pub order isn't the order the Conan stories were written in either. It's just the order REH was able to sell them in, you absolute autist
>Why would you read Conan as a jumbled, disconnected mess when you could read it as a sprawling epic and watch him grow from barbarian to thief to general to king? Why would you try to attach a story curve to Conan's life and ruin the surprise of Conan being a king all of a sudden here and a penniless bravo again there?
Liam Hernandez
The order they were WRITTEN, you fucking retard. Not published. You are very stupid and should probably die soon.
Daniel Perez
What do yall use to get author's preview from subscribestar?
Robert Phillips
They only ban when you pol cunts use the n word. They don't ban for saying faggot, unless you go into the lgbt board and say it.
Chase Young
>Why would you attach a story curve to Conan's life >Attach I'm not tacking anything on, user. It's right there in the stories. Have you actually read them? It's almost like reading them by publication order causes you to miss something... Hahaha cry some more, faggot
>surprise of Conan being a king all of a sudden here and a penniless bravo again there? That doesn't happen bruh. Conan is old in the ones where he's king and young in the ones where he's burgling and pirating. It's in the text
David Wright
im tryina get some of that. sup
Caleb Nelson
yes, but you don't know whether to expect old king conan or young bix nood conan
Grayson Anderson
E.E. Doc Smith. Pretty much created space opera.
Jeremiah Watson
Clark Ashton Smith is the shit. Pure Venusian jungle kino right der
Charles White
Is it just me or are these fantasy smuts for men become more and more popular?
/sffg/, some autistic part of me wants to insert 'mon shit into my novel. What do I do?
Joseph Ward
You don't look at Amazon kindle new releases.
Nathan Green
I want to read. But theres so much music and classic film to watch. Idk man. Does this reading thing just latch on at some point? Because it feels forced 9/10 times for me. Really enjoyed A Scanner Darkly though for the monthly book. But I just finished it last night...
Ryder Sanders
Vorkosigan is fun as well.
Grayson Howard
Sffg help. I can't enjoy traditional published books anymore. While reading publishing houses books I'm thinking of litrpg, wuxia, xinana, isekia, etc. Halp.
Lincoln Clark
Just about halfway through my first read of Foundation, it’s pretty good so far. Read Dune Messiah, I personally see it as the fourth part of Dune rather than the second book in the series. A new paperback edition was released in June.
Cameron Gomez
Get graphic audio books. They are like a movie, and they contain a musical score. So it would be you combining 3 hobbies. Music, cinematic effects, and a novel.
Landon Flores
Take a break from reading. Let your brain reset. You gotta compartmentalize better
Justin Scott
seethe more basedboy
Connor Wilson
>A new paperback edition was released in June. >i work for a publishing house guises >buy this dead author's book so I can get my commission >$0.10 has been deposited into your account
Thomas Hill
Sometimes,i've read some Olaf Stapledon and Gertrude Bennet/Francis Stevens,they are pretty cool
Benjamin Jackson
If I take a break I will neck myself. I'm reading to keep myself from doing the midair jig.
Levi Lee
What if I like the undead?
Ayden Phillips
So? Just read what you want. I think the best 'cure' for such novels is just to read more of em, they get old eventually and then you can lament that there are no genuinely good novels in those genres.
Evan Bailey
Elric of Melnibone, and so far I think the Foundation Trilogy will be my sci-fi guilty pleasure once I finish it.
Ok, I really want to read more about the culture and the war, but it seems Mr. Banks's primary interest is to try to make me wince or barf at his increasingly elaborate displays of human depravity. I this book just not for me? Is the whole series like this?
I just finished this book and posted up above. I liked it, though yes, it was a bit of a slog (especially the Eaters). Upon finishing it Banks seems to be a teeny bit nihilistic, or.. he's at least trying to put a spin on the average The Gang Has a Space Adventure.
I think the other books deal with what the Culture is like much more than Phlebas.
Ethan Gutierrez
It’s all communism in a nut shell Humans are pets of ai’s who will just act like old time nobles
Blake Hernandez
Dude get over it, you think the future is going to be full of nerveless bores who don't fuck or do drugs
Justin Parker
Anyone here also listen to black metal?
I want a book that gives me that kind of vibe. But I'm not asking for grimdark, if that makes sense...
Thanks.
Eli Richardson
thanks. I guess I'll stick with it. exactly! Sounds wonderful. I really don't mind sex or drugs, the content in this book is significantly more disturbing that that.
Liam Long
>Y-you too HAHAHAHA! The stage you're at now is called bargaining. Next comes dilation Stormlight. The writing is shit tier repetitive nufantasy, but there's a few good non reddit jokes per book and dem fights are pretty good
If you people want depravity read the Gap Cycle There's a scene in which a stripper cuts off her own tits for entertainment It's also chock full of rape and denigration
Aaron Myers
Gallow/Fateguard. More realistic than grim. Fantasy viking dude axes fools for revenge and profit
Eli Fisher
I listened to The Ruins of Beverast pretty much exclusively while reading the Prince of Nothing series and thought it was a great fit. Sorry, though, it's grimdark. But damn it's good.
Couldn’t be the only guy who thought the old cover was the shitty mashup between a “coming soon to dvd” preview and a college textbook. No need to be so hasty, user.
>tfw 1st ed. Dune was published by Chilton's >tfw they have zero incentive to shill for it since they otherwise just publish car maintenance books
Levi Perez
I dig ROB. I had that series on my list. I was just sort of avoiding it because I know its pretty long. Their newest album Exhuvia or however you spell it really grew on me, I dig it.
Grimdark is fine, I was just saying I wasn't exclusively asking for it.
Ill check it out user. Its got pretty mixed reviews. But I'll try it,
David Adams
What does he axe them?
Christopher Lewis
Nice get
Isaac Sullivan
I only read the first book and a half. It was good but not amazing. Had a metal vibe to it Why alligators is so ornery
/sffg/, how can I make my MC (or the whole cast) into a pokemon trainer without it immediately setting off warning bells?
I was thinking the characters would have familiars, which works with my plot and themes, but I don't know how to introduce it without it seeming cringeworthy
Ayden Hill
Introduce it in a big confusing action scene where none of the characters or stakes are important to the audience yet.
Joshua King
just downloaded all of wheel of time to travel to. is the prequel book intended to be read first?
Eh, I'd read the first book before the prequel story to avoid spoiling the feel of the beginning. Then delete the rest of the books and read Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn instead
zoomed out, I thought the dog had no legs and an open mouth
Camden Gonzalez
Thread about to die but, Babby tier cosmere spoiler ahead: Is Mistborn worth it? I've read 1, 2, and am on 3 of the stormlight archive. It was enough to realize just how fucking much I hate this man's writing style but also I am now sucked into the fucking cosmere lore. I literally just want to see Hoid in a bunch of different books now.
Ethan Ortiz
I forgot to add, if forced to choose between the two, would you go with mistborn or warbreaker? This question is for sanderfags only.
Henry Mitchell
Just read the first three,they have semiconclusions,if you read after book 6 it's just a constant "to be continued" until book 14
Nicholas Watson
THREAD SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
Robert Turner
Honestly, mistborn's world is pretty self-contained. I'm not sure why it's considered part of a shared universe. If you don't like sanderson's style then don't bother with mistborn.
Leo Cooper
we still on page 2
Hunter Lewis
It's the book that took me the longest time to read out of all the books I've EVER read. I think I dropped it and started it back up again like 4 times. In general, I found it unbearable. Gene's characters are boring as fuck, and his prose isn't nearly fun enough to merit the entry for me. And I feel like it's one of those things where you get memed into going the full way >read the first chapter and say you don't like it >>bruh, you gotta read at least a quarter >read a quarter and say you don't like it >>bruh, just read at least until the midway point and get past the intro >read over halfway >>BRUH, YOU'RE SO CLOSE, JUST FINISH THE FIRST BOOK >finish the first book and don't like it >>well, bro, you gotta at least read the second, the first is just an introduction And so on and so on. I am absolutely certain it will end in me reading them all, disliking them, and then the whole conversation ending with >LOL YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO GET IT LMAO The only series I've ever read that I only started to like near the end was the original Prince of Nothing trilogy, as everything fell into place in the Thousandfold Thought. That's about it. An Bakker's prose is pretty magnificent outside of the absurd Herodotus tier monster scenes and the cringy fetish cuck shit and monster rape.
It's okay to be a brainlet, user. You don't have to sperg out like this.
Hudson Lewis
>the whole conversation ending with >LOL YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO GET IT LMAO No. The whole conversation ends with >You just have to read it again. The true value of BotNS is upon rereading.
I kid, BotNS is my favorite book. I unironically read it whole over 9 times. But it's true that there are many memes about it
Wyatt Rivera
What's the appeal?
Jackson Phillips
>Dude get over it, you think the future is going to be full of nerveless bores who don't fuck or do drugs
But it is. Citizens of the Culture aren't even physically capable of either.
As about their pets, it is no more interesting to read about them than about lower castes in Brave New World.
Hudson Carter
My man it literally talks about how Culture people have modified genitalia to have amazing sex and glands in their head to manufacture any drug they wa- Oh, I see what you did there
Jacob Ward
I don't know. I just like the book overall. I started reading it during one of the best summers of my life. I suppose I associate the book with the comfy. All in all I just love it. It's my favorite book of all time.
Luis Jones
Writing order =/= publication order.
Conan should e read in order the stories were written.
Josiah Sanchez
Are short stories dead? I was just trying to read Witcher recently and it's incredible how much the quality drops once it goes from short story into novel form. So sad. I'm tired of all this bloat.
Cameron Diaz
>Are short stories dead? No; they're just not popular anymore. There's still indie writers writing short stories and novellas.
