start with the greeks. then read livy. if you don't want to buy a bunch of books, just get the landmark caesar. the durant book caesar and christ is comfy too.
Benjamin Foster
As the romans did is good for primary qoutations.
Jace Barnes
But why do I necessarily have to start with the Greeks if I want to know as much about possible about life in ancient Rome? I get the connections and the influence, but I explicitly said that I want to touch philosophy last and read about everything else there is to know first
Gabriel Morgan
>implying greeks are only about philosophy
Austin Ward
>do you have the get-into-greeks-infographic by chance? You mean the reading chart? I have that one but cant think of any infrographic.
In my humbre opinion if you know the basic general history of Greece then you can just jump right into Roman history since that's what you are interested in. But if you know almost nothing about Greece, then yes I would suggest you read a little bit of it first.
Tyler Adams
t b h I have never read up about greek history, I was interested in Greek mythology and have read the Iliad when I was younger but dont really have an overview of actual history. So reading The Histories of Herodotus should give me a good overview, or? If so I will certainly read that first
Jackson Rogers
Herodotus is a good first hand account sure, you could also just read the general history from the start with the greeks chart, first book.
Carson Lewis
Thanks, then I will get that. Now if there was a chart like that for the Romans, that would be great
Blake Gonzalez
There is, for when finishing the greeks. In your case you could jump straight into it once you read the first and maybe second books in greeks chart.
Thanks a lot, exactly what I have been looking for
Owen Hall
Where the fuck is Satyricon
Leo Hernandez
Here is the other for the Greeks. Honestly, if you have a general knowledge of which gods are which, the cause of the Trojan war, and a general knowledge of Greek history IE: >Minoans >mycenaeans >Dark age >wars with persia >Peloponnesian war >Alexander's conquest and his empires shattering >Rome's triumph you can skip a general history book as well as the myths and go right into the iliad and Odyssey. Herodotus references myths quite a bit so it's good to know Homer's work. If you wanna skip to roman history you can, but be aware, they were heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture so it's good to learn about the Greeks too
i don't know the name of the books in english. But authors like Pierre grimal or Indro montanelli, have written a lot of books about the general history about ancient rome.
That there is actually very little Rome in Gladiator There is a lot of Rome in HBO's Rome, but there is very little of it in Gladiator
Levi Rodriguez
literally the entire movie takes place there except the opening war scene, enslavement in north africa, and his spanish villa scenes.
Jeremiah Moore
There is still not a lot of Rome in Gladiator
Landon Wood
This. Romans were Greekaboos so to be a Romeaboo you have to be a Greekaboo. Start with Anabasis by Xenophon, the first great military epic (historical), perfect introduction to acutally existing Greek military and spiritual life.
Two gay pedophiles chase their escaping boy lover. Written by one of the degenerates in Nero's court who later got put to death. Good read once you look past the subject matter. Very Roman, quite literally the court values of pagan Rome.
>t. underage newfag who doesn't know when to greentext
Carter Johnson
i make the rules here you stupid baboon, calling me newfag and underage could not be more far from the truth... but nice projection nonetheless! keep going
Anthony Gutierrez
Actually I make the rules as it is my thread, but I don't mind you guys
Adrian Turner
i accept you as the alpha baboon. hail op fuck the pendant who thinks greentexting is essential when there is no story to be told. idiot.
Jason Thompson
>essential books >general history Sure here are some good ones:
Augustus: First Emperor of Rome - Adrian Goldsworthy
Caesar: Life of a Colossus - Adrian Goldsworthy
Pax Romana: War, Peace and Conquest in the Roman World - Adrian Goldsworthy
The Death of Caesar: The Story of History's Most Famous Assassination - Barry Strauss
Julius Caesar - Philip Freeman
Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician - Anthony Everitt
The Story of Greece and Rome - Tony Spawforth
The Eternal City: A History of Rome - Ferdinand Addis
Rome: The Biography of a City - Christopher Hibbert
A Day in the Life of Ancient Rome: Daily Life, Mysteries, and Curiosities - Alberto Angela
I think you are all forgetting EDWARD GIBBONS and his completely comprehensive work THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
I myself have read it twelve times and have all the footnotes memorised. I don't read any other historians, even the ones mentioned in Gibbons footnotes; I only need the enlightenment titan himself.