I’m planning on going into a PhD program with the hopes of becoming a philosophy professor. Any other anons here on the academic path that have any insight?
I’m planning on going into a PhD program with the hopes of becoming a philosophy professor...
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Everyone keeps telling me I would be a great law professor. I keep telling them to give me a 10 page report on why I would. No one listens to me.
Sounds like you’re autistic enough to be one
That’s.not how it works
>thats the joke . jpg
We had a professor that would kick you out of class and assign you a 20 page paper if you weren't prepared for the cases assigned that day. If you didn't do it your grade would drop. It's more a jab at that than anything else.
DONT. DO. IT.
Why?
Yeah, good luck with that. I have my hopes already shattered.
Why do you say that?
Fuck bro, I got accepted to a Classics PhD at a mid-tier North American school and know it's probably a dumb idea to go but being a wagie seems awful
Yes. If you get accepted into a program at a school, get HEAVILY involved in its academic community. Attend talks and events, TA whatever you can, befriend and impress your professors. Show dedication to the program and the school and you'll probably be hired. Barring someone else who attractively writes something relevant in the field , university departments in the humanities are like any other workplace: they want people who they can work alongside
I think you're going the wrong path, user.
Why?
Its nearly impossible to set a foot into academia. I am currently writing applications for a paid Phd position in the humanities. Its fucking depressing
Ask really closely about placement. If they're not placing into TT jobs, run don't walk.
I was being a little facetious but seriously take a self inventory. Whatever problems you have - money, relationships, writers block, alcohol, mental health - grad school will make MUCH WORSE. If you're even keeled and not prone to drama or over indulgence you can go far, but if you're not, it doesn't reflect badly on you to bail now.
Also grad school makes you poor and subservient, and that can become a hard habit to break.
i am on an academic path but im not sure it leads anywhere, much less a phd
I'm working on my MA while I'm an adjunct at a Junior College. You're probably going to be a wagie for a bit longer than you expected, unless you get really lucky.
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I was in grad school in a hard science at a good school and thought it was rough enough to see careers get broken there. Most grads in humanities don't have a stipend and have to TA full time to earn a 15k/year living. Then, when you get on the market, you better have found ways to insert inter-sectional feminist and minority studies into your research. Like 99.9% of grads, you will probably end up as an adjunct well into your 30s or eventually drop out of academia to work a job that most likely doesn't even require a degree.
Why is that man in a dress?
>Then, when you get on the market, you better have found ways to insert inter-sectional feminist and minority studies into your research.
Disgusting
cause it looks cute
>Any other anons here on the academic path that have any insight?
yeah, don't
You will still be a wagie, just with more debt and much higher suicidal tendencies. But then again, they say that philosophy is preparation for death. So maybe you should do it. speed run life, user. Plato would be proud.
dont you need to be a bit autistic to get a phd in the first place anyway
>fell for the meme, studying English at an Ivy League school
>have no idea what the fuck I want to do with my life
>parents keep saying I’d be a great teacher
Should I just go to law school?
Maximally comfy 5-6 years if you get decent funding (don't go if you don't).
If you get significant or full funding, I would say go for it just because it's fucking free or near free.
If you have to pay for it, don't bother.
America churns out more PhD's than they have positions for. So if you want to be a professor, you're already facing a ton of competition.
I actually thought of getting a PhD in civil engineering, because I was just getting done with my Master's, but I decided making money was more enticing and a better use of my time. Research would have probably bored me to death.
>We had a professor that would kick you out of class and assign you a 20 page paper if you weren't prepared for the cases assigned that day.
sounds like you went to a low tier law school
If you're not a commie, you don't get tenure.
Sounds about right. I did. Still gonna take the bar anyway.
>Any other anons here on the academic path
Yes. Starting this Autumn.
>that have any insight
Not me. I wish I knew what to expect from the studies, and from myself.
Is philosophy really now just a 9 to 5 rather than building a cabin in the woods by a Pond or freeing your serfs?
How about you tell me how to live an optimal life?
There's no money in philosophy so PhD seats are few, at good programs they're even fewer. I'm a undergrad at a school with a top 10 philosophy PhD program and last year they had over 600 applicants and took 9.
Even if you get into a good program finding a tenure track professorship is still very very competitive. I had a professor who got a PhD from MIT and was a "teaching assistant" (only made ~30,000) and quit after ten years if failing to get an actual professorship.
I feel like that’s the only career that I see anons on here studying philosophy go for. My philosophy professor told me that it’s a lot more competitive nowadays so good luck OP.
I'm currently finishing my masters dissertation in philosophy and getting applications to PhD programs together as we speak. Not much to add other than good luck. At this point, I know the future looks bleak, but I can't imagine doing anything else. I worked a ton of other jobs before this and they all felt like a terrible fit AND paid like shit. If I'm going to spend the next 30 years poor and overworked its going to be doing something I like.
>If I'm going to spend the next 30 years poor and overworked its going to be doing something I like.
big, BIG cope. you are making a mistake.
I'm not some 19 year old, I worked for almost a decade before going back and getting my masters, I know exactly what I'm risking and what work is like. At this point I am fully committed.
like hell it does
Good luck user, I hope it works out :-)
Thank you, I appreciate it
>law school
Yeah I’d like fries with that
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I’ll guess I’ll jump in here and ask for advice.
I’m graduating next year with a double major in basically Creative Writing and Media Production. I got a lot of scholarships so I’m coming out with under $5k in debt. I’ve worked mostly throughout school so I have nearly $10k saved up and my parents are willing to pay some of it once I graduate.
I’m graduating from basically a city school that’s mostly community college transfer and commuter students. Are Media Production program is suppose to be good though.
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It was the first conversation we had, so they are well aware of it. Prospective supervisor also has pretty good connections to the Byzantine History/Archaeology field, so it would help tons since I’m Late Antiquity anyways. Oh and they really like my topic
But what I’m asking the thread is.
I’m thinking I might do a Film Studies MA at a university out of state, as I did it as a minor and really liked the classes and excelled at them.
Before anyone tells me no, my professor was the one who recommended me the program, as he personally knows 2 people who went through it.
He says they’ll waiver your tutition as long as you TA classes, which I’m willing to do. They might give you a stipend.
The college isn’t at or near a major city. Kind of just a college town in the middle of nowhere (It’s still a big school that has like 20k students). Rent is cheap with a roommate, and I have dormed and loved alone before.
I feel like I’d like doing it, it’s only 2 years and if I don’t like it I’ll just take the MA.
I’m already an editing intern at a place that hires them, and so far I’m impressing everyone. They pay well and they said I can work during the summers if I go on the grad school.
So is it a good idea?
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This is my thread faggot
Why do YOU think this would be a good idea? Why study film? Do you like film? Do you write scripts? Do you make films? Do you like writing about film?
Sorry man, seems like a lot of humanities grad students are here so might as well ask.
I like studying film. I like writing essays/researching on film and reading academic stuff on film. Corny, I know, but I actually discovered a lot of obscure films that I have enjoyed by doing this.
I do like and would want to make films, but I know that’s a pipe dream, so I feel this is good as I can get.
My Media Production undergrad has classes that I have taken about production, editing, and screenwriting. I don’t feel like going to film school because I’ve heard about it’s pretensions and it’s waste of time. The program I’m thinking about doing allows a few electives in Production/screenwriting courses do I have that option while I focus on film Studies.
lol good luck my nigger.
By the way, fuck off from religious fields such as christianity, judaic, religious studies, etc.
t. will do a Doctor of Divinity later on in order to teach Greek and Hebrew for 40k a year in a small town
I am a humanities professor at a very small university--read:shitty college. 16 hours of teaching a week pays my bills. I do not want to be doing it forever.
I can almost certainly tell you that your romantic view of what a ‘philosophy professor’ does is distorted; professional academia is all dead careerism today. Don’t do it if you value your soul.
If you decide to do so, is basically right. Also, find your small niche quickly and then go get specialized. Professional philosophy today is about rearranging punctuation.
is also right