So, I've been thinking about this recently, but why do so many seemingly mentally vulnerable people gravitate towards Harry Potter? It seems like I find that most of those "I'm adulting" types love the shit, and it only gets worse with the already very reactive lgbtqiaa+++ community. Is there an inverse correlation between mental fortitude and the love of Harry Potter?
Adult Escapism
Dunno, never got into it, m'self...
I thought most transgender people don't like Harry Potter because J.K. Rowling supports a whole load of second-wave feminists from the 70s-90s who call it lesbian erasure etc.?
I recently saw something today about that but it still seems like a guilty pleasure for some maybe.
First, I just wanted to say sodomites are abominations and homosexuality should not be tolerated by any society. To your post, yes, there actually has been studies affirming that growing up on Harry Potter has been shown to increase 'inclusiveness' and 'openness'. Of course, these are detrimental traits that merely sound good. An inversion of the truth if you will, like much of contemporary culture.
It’s anime for westerners. It allows escapist childhood fantasies to become a shared point of experience
I think a lot of the hardcore fans have held the fantasy that one day they will be discovered by someone and lifted out of their current shitty situation. They are still waiting for their letter from Hogwarts. They stagnate because they want and believe they will be handed a purpose instead of having to create one themselves.
>I'm mediocre, but really deep down I'm incredible!
Same reason they cling to identities. The chosen one narrative is very appealing because it requires little to no work or risk taking on their part. You were born as something unusual, so you deserve everything. Mental health and gayness are used as excuses why they are not living out the grand success fantasy they have in their heads, when the truth is they are either just mediocre or were not raised to work hard on the things they want.
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Explains why transexuals are a big part of the anime and harry potter fanbase.
This thread seems like it belongs more on /pol/ than it does Yea Forums. Mentioning "Harry Potter" twice in a post doesn't mean the topic of the post is about literature, before you reply with "b-b but I mentioned a book! That means it's on topic!"
Reported.
Because both Harry Potter and membership of the LGBTQIAP+ community is, on average, just another attempt to perpetuate adolescence. Infatuation with Harry Potter is a sign of intellectual immaturity and deviations from heterosexuality are usually signs of emotional/sexual immaturity (not in the biological sense, but the social sense). Both are the rejection of taking on greater responsibilities in order to continue seeking nothing but purely pleasurable endeavors. It's a last ditch effort to stay "youthful". Basically a more socially acceptable form of Peter Pann syndrome.
That's a fair point to be honest, but I feel like that has to coincide with the time that the books came out as well and the embrace and celebration of mediocrity.
They mistakenly think anime and Harry Potter somehow are about queer identities, the former because they are culturally ignorant and the second because J.K Rowling said Dumbledore was canonically gay as a publicity stunt
Oh come on we'd allow the Werther effect if every user who read Goethe didn't eventually an hero at their failure over it.
I wouldn't consider liking Harry Potter as an adult to be any less escapist or a denial of adulthood than watching anime would.
Spotted the Slytherin
I would put those two groups in the same category, I just had the books on my mind.
harry potter is liberal propaganda through and through.
idk..it's a cool story? fun movies?
Funny. Laughed. Here are your kek points.
buddy, Plato fucked little boys
It also gives people sub groups of the larger group to identify with. People love self identification and feeling unique.
Anime nerds and Harry potter fans share the fact that we live in a time period of extremist energy being put into corporate media.
It really isn't. It's a fucking commodified kids book. It's corporate greed at it's finest because it makes people like you think it's liberal shit.
It's not like it's any different than a huge amount of scifi and fantasy. So why is it so much more loved by the masses than Enders game or something similar?
I don't know. It seems that way. Do you think there's a distinction between people who love Harry Potter and people who won't let go out of spite. I've met a couple people who don't like it because it's shit, but can't let go because it could have been good if JK wasn't such a hack.
There definitely a correlation between mental slowness between people who read Harry Potter and still think Dumbledore was a good guy
Liking anime and other sorts of otaku media seems like much more of a local problem, considering that Yea Forums is one of the biggest interest boards on this website, and that practically every single board has lots of "cute anime girl" posters, whereas practically nobody ever discusses Harry Potter here on Yea Forums. The only times I ever see it (Harry Potter) being mentioned are:
a) In the context of Harry Potter references being used in protest signs or such things
b) criticizing the previously mentioned above people
Looking at it from the perspective of somebody who rarely goes to other websites, adult Harry Potter fans seem more like an imaginary boogeyman that people often mention, but that I've rarely encountered.
As a matter of fact, I've seen more people wearing those meme ahegao t-shirts or some kind of clothes related to relatively popular anime/manga (One Piece, Sword Art Online, Highschool DxD etc.) in public than I have seen people who proudly exhibit being part of the Harry Potter fandom.
After thinking a bit more it could also be that it was a popular 'secret world' type of story. Other popular fantasy works like LOTR have worlds where magic is known and acknowledged. In Harry Potter the reader could insert themselves into a self indulgent narrative where they are secretly better than the muggles, or normies.
>I'm not like those other office drones at work even though I do all the same things, I'm a polysexual BDSM enthusiast!
>Wow I bet Sheryl the receptionist would be shocked by how awesome I truly am!
>Those muggles don't understand my beautiful soul, they're keeping me down
>That's why all I do is watch Netflix, it's too much emotional work to pretend to be a normie
It may be part of why they react so poorly to successful minorities that don't play into their narrative. They show that it isn't all the big bad man's fault that you don't progress in life.
When they do shocking things like walking out in slutty women's clothes, the negative responses they receive reinforce the idea that they are being blocked by the dumb, cruel muggles who just don't understand.
Wrong.
Anecdotally, I only know women who consider themselves Harry Potter fans.
The number of adult women who hold Harry Potter universe so dear astonishes me. I try to understand why.
Like with Disney/Pixar, TV sports, science fiction, and video games, people who get into Harry Potter from a young age and do not develop further interests are stained immature. Harry Potter, Disney/Pixar, sports, science fiction, or vidya are enough for them and clues you in that they haven't developed any taste beyond childhood.
I think the synthesis between you and OP is the most accurate way of looking at it. There is a sizeable portion of people for whom Harry Potter holds a disproportionate level of importance in that it has become a major frame of reference for them. They can't stop fucking talking about it one way or another.
In Harry Potter the education system exists almost as a sentient being of utmost benignness. The heroes, and often the villains are usually public servants and bureaucrats. It appeals to servile former teacher's pets whose life peaked in 6th grade. The world as a class room.
You can say whatever you want about Harry Potter, but Joanne absolutely knocked it out of the park when it came to playing into the whole 'secret world right below your nose' trope. A lot of people crave for some sort of cataclysmic event that will shake them out of their boring, mundane, monotonous lives and HP provides them with a narrative where exactly that happens.
The shitty, unthought-through lore people so often bemoan in Harry Potter is a direct consequence of the almost childlike approach to the 'secret world' formula (which is inherently pretty childish to begin with). There is absolutely no room for mundanity in the HP-universe -which is why everyone in the HP-universe is either a quirky store owner, one of 7 teachers, or an athlete. That's why the material is so shallow, but it's simultaneously the reason why it's so appealing.
Rowling essentially just put all her effort towards feeding a very juvenile yet deep-seated desire many people harbour. It's quite cunning, really.
The last book was hilariously shit. I will never forget. Also I read the whole of HPATMOR and I truly regret it. Fucking that autistic idiot Yudkowski (or whatever). Thanks for reading!
JK Rowling runs with crowd most likely to be TERFS. Middle-aged, Liberal, White, English women
This
>adult Harry Potter fans seem more like an imaginary boogeyman that people often mention
They definitely exist, I personally know more than an inconsequential number of them
she's also a tory cunt
>mentally vulnerable people gravitate towards Harry Potter
You mean women
I know only one Harry Potter fan, and he is a bi sexual anarcho communist.
Brony Phenomenon
Fanbases in general
Products sell Identity that you can sell to other people who buy that identity (with sex)
>because J.K Rowling said Dumbledore was canonically gay as a publicity stunt
>as a publicity stunt
flamboyant eternal bachelor, who, as a teenager, had a very close relationship with another boyo wizard. Yeah, that seems 100% hetero to me.
When the books were coming out I bought an item on maplestory that messaged everyone who was online at the time. I spoiled the seventh book or whatever that snaps kills fumble door and the owl died. I got death threats and hate messages for 2 hours.
That was a long way to say that your opinion on the matter is irrelevant and that you had nothing of true substance to add.
fun things are fun. slytherin did nothing wrong, voldemort did nothing wrong. gas the mudbloods wizard wars now.
but on topic, i notice a lot of these special snowflake creatures latch onto random characters from this or that, anything from cartoon to anime to books, and declare that x character is totally [meme flag for faggot shit of the day] just like them. it's really cringy. for example, they'll take a male character who has clear sexual interest in females and only females, and out of the blue declare he's bisexual. if these creatures had half a brain to rub between themselves they'd write their own bingo-filled loony toons lineup of a novel series to pander to themselves in a circular mutual-wankfest. instead they do what blacks do to white characters and writers: suddenly shakespeare, hermione, and king arthur are all black africans. but they're incapable of simply writing their own shit.
almost like they're mentally inferior or something.
i have nothing against gays. mishima and oscar wilde are some of my favorite authors. difference is they actually have talent and don't steal other people's shit to turn it into an abomination that panders to their sexual fetish.
>that quote
>in any way supporting what you said
>slaves impelled by pleasure, contrary to nature
>nah bro, this means he likes them
What’s really sad is these people kept or probably even started reading hp in their teen years, never going to have the kino experience of reading them all before age 11 and waking up to no letter from hogwarts and getting crushed.
>pop culture is popular
It's a UK/US thing because it feeds into a sentimental narrative about racism. Both societies are steadily becoming infantilized at any rate.
Trannies hate JK Rowling the way LGBT++++ hates Islam for persecuting gays.They don't. They turn a blind eye and make excuses.
it is in man's nature to be owned be media. what are kings but primative media figures who exist for vicarious expierence and identity. in an era when one spent every waking hour farming how could such a thing exist. the same reason tamers exists in a world where global poverty still exists, because man's urge for it is greater than the well to help his fellow man. the concept of godhood is an entity that exists entirely within the realm of media, through books and individual interpretation. it is the will to view the world as ideas and representations rather than realities. hopefully it will collapse in on itself before we witness the unimaginable singularity