German Yea Forums or russian?

Holderlin and Rilke are somewhat similar

Germans are assholes

Ive been reading a pdf of Holderlin's poems for the past few hours, he's great

Where are you? The soul is shadowy in me
And drunk on your happiness. A moment since
I saw a dazzling god, like a young
Man tired at the finish of a journey,
Bathing the hair of his head in golden clouds
And my eyes cannot keep from looking where he went.
He has left us now, he has gone to
Lands where they love him still and revere him.
I love you, earth, for you are grieving with me
And our grief like the troubles of children turns
Into sleep and just as the breezes
Flutter and whisper in the strings until
More adept fingers coax a better music
Out of them so mists and dreams play over us
Until the loved one comes and life and
The spirit are kindled in us again.

French

Also assholes

Russian 19th century
German 20th century

Russian and Italian for me desu

I don't think I've ever read a German work of literature.
I've only read a few Russian ones, but I've found them to be generally very dreary.

This.

Good luck learning Russian though

why are you here

Because there exists more literature than the output of two particular countries.
And while I did find the Russian ones dreary, I still liked some of them.

irish

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Chad

Gigachad is actually Russian, and has read Dostoyevsky. Yesterday I talked to him about Brothers Karamazov

American

It's a joke brainlet.

>Goethe as an old man: he was so very punctual. At that time he also wrote many things that were very punctual. The rounded thing is boring. Turn it as you may, it remains round and pretty.
>I love the edges, the sharp lines, and fractures.
>I show to him a picture of Dostoevsky. How ruptured, furrowed, tormented!
>He looks like Michelangelo; the face of an endurer and a prophet.

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What is a joke brainlet? How is he different from a regular brainlet?

Pretty much. Russia's literary output in the 20th century was pretty weak compared to literary powerhouses like Germany or France. Its only saving grace is its poetry but it can't really be appreciated without an extensive knowledge of the language. Also, Germany was obviously superior in previous centuries as well, Russian literature was only great in the 19th century.

Recommend me an order how to get through Dostojevskij. I've just finished Crime and Punishment. Where should i go next?

Usually I prefer to save an author's big magnum opus for last, so I'd say read The Idiot and Demons before The Brothers Karamazov.
I don't think you need an order though.

fuck, you, man.

not the guy you're replying too but since Dostoyevsky is my favourite too:
go backwards first, read house of the dead, then notes of the underground (further back with uncle's dream, white nights, poor folk the double etc, optional) then the gambler, the idiot, then shorts like bobok, the meek one, then demons and the brothers karamazov

If you read him from largely autobiographical House of the Dead and keep in mind this was the start of his change from revolutionary to doomsayer when it came to socialist revolution and its inevitable atheism etc, you can grasp where exactly he is going.
Underground and C&P are very much the voice of a lost men, the Idiot and Demons are very much questioning if anything can be redeemed and Brothers is what I believe he thought was the answer concerning faith and redemption etc.
Somewhat of a reduced view but I thought I'd mention it so you can get a sense of why C&P feels like a fever dream and its context in his work.

Thank you for the quality responses. I will read Notes next and leave TBK the last.

>not reading both in latin
Pffft