I want to convert to paganism, what do I need to read?

>the CATHolic church was named after a woman named CATHerine
nobody take this bait. do not reply to this man.

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>Wanting to cast spells

Cringe and cuckpilled. Worship the Gods and don't worry about all that nonsense. Read the Prose Edda. Spend time in nature. Engage your mind.

You don't buddy paganism is mostly oral traditions. Speaking of oral traditions I heard ur mom is pretty good

damn, thanks anyway
CATHolic means universal CATHerine, as opposed to Olic, which means universal
>Are you by chance a tripfag?
I'm actually both Butterfly and :3 at the same time
you just did
thanks, but does it contain any spells?
lol you got me

>I'm actually both Butterfly and :3 at the same time
That's it
I'm out

:3

Laughed pretty hard at this one

Guys can alchemy be considered paganism ?

Not necessarily
Plenty of Renaissance guys did and remained christian
Just like Astrology

so can be maybe a budism type of "religion" ? wich is kind of interesting because i heard something about budism taking a lot of eastern alchemy.

I guess
Alchemy was often seen as a science rather than a ritual or whatever
That changed when chemestry turned out to be a thing

Is it even possible to be a "pagan"? These religions rely heavily on being a part of a pious culture because as I understand it these faiths rely on oral traditions and rituals all of which are communal endeavors. What's the point of being a "pagan" if all that culture is at least dead and usually completely lost? Aren't you just LARPing because you think you're practicing the white man's faith or some dumb /pol/shit to that effect?

>Aren't you just LARPing because you think you're practicing the white man's faith or some dumb /pol/shit to that effect?
Most of these so called "pagans" or "neopagans" aren't actually results of putting race first or whatever shit it might come from /pol/
Most of them are just butthurted ass atheists and liberals that play a little bit of Skyrim and decide go pagan just because it's cool n sheit

Nothing against these philosophers, but you want Hesiod, Homer, and Ovid for paganism.

Worship Ahura Mazda and learn fire magic

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a proto-science to be more exactly. I know it had some pretty heavy simbolism, it took from astrology as you mentioned, occultism, religion, the transmutation of metal were also a metaphor for the betterment of the mind and ones life. That's why I was asking if it could be considered paganism since was not only... "science"

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you are already pretty retarded so you need to read nothing, congratulations you are now a pagan

You need to stop reading and start drinking rams piss

Wouldn't the atheist types be into the so-called "new age" religion stuff, "spirituality", and such? My grandma was an atheist her entire life but now that death comes knocking she got more interested in ESP, homeopathy and generally "exotic" shit that isn't real religion.

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>Wouldn't the atheist types be into the so-called "new age" religion stuff, "spirituality", and such?
Kinda my point, desu

The laws of the heavens are eternal. Whether we recognise them or not is irrelevant. And in this sense the lone worshipper is more relevant than a billion false worshippers.
Religious law and extravagant rituals can be seen as excess, as stepping away from what is most vital in belief.

But Paganism isn't that. When I hear that word I imagine fat white guys singing praise to "Odin" in English.
Aren't you projecting Christian beliefs onto pagan ones? I'm not too familiar with most of them but from what I can gather most pre-Christian faiths (and Christianity too really) place more emphasis on what Christians would call works rather than faith.

>But Paganism isn't that. When I hear that word I imagine fat white guys singing praise to "Odin" in English.
Exactly my point
The fact is: being the rebel childs of protestants, atheists seek spiritual life towards ancient forgot religions and make a renaissance of it
The part about fat guys, is open to interpretation

Religions are exoteric forms of the inner esoteric, if you want to get into the occult, /omg/ on x has a library. As far as paganism reading classical literature on the subjects, read eddas for Norse/Germanics, fror greeks read Homer. If you are looking for specific practices, meditation as well as runes are good places to start.

The Bible

Well, I won't speak for most because I only follow one, with some reading of a couple others. But do you have any evidence of this in the writings themselves? I can argue for the exact opposite, and explain it through the myths. And a simple matter of human nature and weakness betrays the perceived need of sacrificing dominions of creation to an uncertainty. For what is the appropriate sacrifice to the Unknown God?
In simple terms, one might say that the sacrifice acts as an offering for one's own sorrow, a moralism of loss rather than a celebration of communion with the will of the gods. Sacrifice cannot be the foundation of belief because in the end nothing will remain but heavenly and human ruins. Sacrifice gives over a piece of the very human dominion which exists tentatively between the world and the heavens, between the human and godly, between the animalistic and the monstrous. If we rely too much upon sacrifice then we assume that the gods can be bent to our will - or perhaps that if we offer enough we too can become gods.
But the heroes of Greek mythology tell us something very different, the offering must be made proportionately to both human and cosmological dominion - they are only accepted by the gods within this fragile balance. Christianity, and many other religions, betray this and hand over a progressive sacrifice until there is nothing left of the world, and perhaps the heavens. Hence the funeral procession quality of all its rituals.
God appears hopping in a barrel before the devil.
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>This is why we must say that the gods are beyond the dilemma of piety and love. Love is something simple to them, it is a natural law of their dominion, and instead the pious is related to what is exceptional to the gods, what they carry on even when love is abandoned. It is what lives on within justice, when everything else must be abandoned, the most essential quality that creates dominion and to which love itself is subordinate, just as each god may be subordinate to justice. There is a seeming paradox in this, a mirror of that of the trial, in that one must show piety to the gods as a whole, the heavenly kingdom as well as each individual god. Their territory may even, for a time, intrude upon the dominion of others.

>Such laws may appear as a contradiction, but what we see in the myths and mysteries is a singularity of essence, the pure form of the gods, clearly a part of a hierarchy, and yet undiminished—complete of their own world. Even in lesser myths we tend to sense this irreducible quality, as if the whole cosmology exists within a single god as a force, in opposition to laws of reductionism. Such power is what is referred to as Dominion, the absolutely sovereign quality of the gods which is retained even in exile or destruction—so prominent in the figure of Dionysus.

>One might say that we humans are a reflection of this, our piety and sacrifice is also subordinate to something beyond us. And it is in this sense that the sacrifice acts as an offering, not to any one god, but their entire realm. Our offering must include reconciliation of one divine law to the dominion as a whole. Perhaps the most clear example of this is the false offerings to Zeus - the bones covered in fat first offered by Prometheus as a trick - a subtle recognition that there is something even more powerful than the King of Olympus. It is a tentative agreement between god and man, for even a sacrifice is never enough to maintain the boundaries between heaven and earth. There must be something more.

>It is here that we sense the horrifying vision of the divine, the landscape which religions attempt to grasp: the end as a temporary retreat into nihilism, what the cults often referred to as mysteries. But it is this inability to escape beyond our realm, the inevitable retreat back into a simple form of living, the restraints of our eternally regenerating body and the conflict of nihilism before the final answer, which retains our dominion. It appears as a wall of time, before which our mortality stands in judgement in the face of its end. And yet this is also the place, kneeling before form, to which our eternal being appears to us with its undiminished qualities.

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While I respect Varg in his attempt to escape modern self-destruction, he is not an authority on paganism. He even has elements of modern religions which are completely at odds with old beliefs.
Read the Greeks, or Norse if you have a greater inclination towards nature. Theogony and Poetic Edda are the starting points, or perhaps secondary literature if you have a hard time understanding them.
But keep in mind that none of this is easy, modern thinking is completely opposite to ancient philosophy and religion.

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Wicca is faggot shit.

Now that that's out of the way, we could reduce most of the modern political dichotomy between Christian and pagan world-views.

From what I understand, "Paganism" is a pejorative Catholics used for outsiders. By invoking the word, you're just inviting heresy-hunting Papists. I believe the word "pagan" originally meant something equivalent to "redneck." By seeking to identify with the term, you're seeking to identify with an insulting characterization.

If by "paganism" you're indicating your interest in more open-ended perspectives on religion, which would allow you to think beyond conventional religions, and prime you for a freer relationship with the universe, try Spinoza, Plotinus, Whitehead, and Heidegger.

Even many mystics from mainstream religions can serve this end. See Eckhart, Boehme, & Eriugena (Christianity); Rumi & Ibn Arabi (Islam); Levinas, Buber, Maimon, and [various Kabbalists] (Judaism); Dogen & Longchenpa (Buddhism); Bhagavad Gita & Upanishads (Hinduism).

Hope this helps. Happy hunting, and don't let dogmatists or superstition scare you off from any text.

Unironically Judaism

the only real paganism available to us is the aestheticism that descends from renaissance -> romanticism -> decadence.

this LARP shit you're talking about is for metal heads, prison inmates, lesbians, harry potter readers, dungeons and dragons players, astrology dorks, fat people with bad personal hygiene, and middle aged housewives who watch tv shows about "real" haunted houses and consider themselves psychic mediums

Study Neoplatonism, it was the rationale for ancient paganism, similar to medieval scholasticism for catholicism.

this, if OP is white i suggest being initiated into existing aryan paganisms such as zoroastrianism or hinduism instead of larping as a neofagan

The point of paganism is to slowly build up an understanding of your ancestor's beliefs, traditions, and philosophy. You don't convert, there's no holy book to read. It's a matter of study and reflection, engagement with community and kin, and eventually genuine faith and a shift in you. If you want to cast spells and play around with /x/tier shit, paganism is not for you. That's not to say spells or something do not exist, just that they exist within the context of a given society, social structure, and ethnicity. That's the whole point. What you propose is a corruption, misses the point of paganism.