been a while since we had a thread like this. Yea Forums is completely dead place for finding quality movies. Yea Forums denizens seem to have a much superior taste
pictured was really, really good - recommended from someone here a while back. anybody else got anything?
watching a lot of Jean-Claude Brisseau films recently really enjoyed them he casts really beautiful actresses may he RIP
Landon Brooks
Not op, but Yea Forums is the board most predicated with people who strive to be cultured in the old sense of the word. Surely we can agree that this isn't strictly related to literature, but most of threads up aren't. In sum, it's Yea Forums related for the reason I posited, but it is certainly not related to literature.
my literary tastes are pretty old fashioned and classics oriented but i only like american reagan era movies like top gun, beverly hills cop and police academy. i dislike film as a medium in general, though.
Cooper Kelly
like op said Yea Forums is a wasteland for film discussion and Yea Forums is known to have good taste in most mediums so........
How can you see one part of the trilogy and wonder what to see next?
Do you consider yourself a connoisseur because you have watched 1 (one) film?
You need to change your attitude to life.
Wyatt Brooks
Orpheus (1950) Persona (1966) 8 1/2 (1963) Ichi the Killer (2001) Au Hasard Balthazar (1966) Mouchette (1967) Wild Strawberries (1957) Seventh Seal (1957) Bladerunner (1982) Andrei Rublev (1966) Cool Hand Luke (1967) Naked Lunch (1991) Possession (1981) Stalker (1979) Thin Red Line (1998) Diary of a Country Priest (1951) Come And See (1985) to name a few
Is Andrei Rublev worth it? I have a physical copy but it's like 3 hours long. The only other Tarkovsky I've seen is Ivan's Childhood. Should I proceed?
Thomas Green
i'm not very picky, whether it's breakfast club, back to the future, major league, hot shots, it's all about the aesthetics of that specific time period to me. the lighting, the music, the people/clothing, cars, the streets and buildings, everything was absolute kino.
Kayden Peterson
Tarkovsky is my favorite director but Andrei Rublev is my least favorite film of his. It’s not bad but it is 3 hours long, doesn’t really make its mark, and is king of boring. Stalker, Mirror, and Solaris are millions of times better, especially Stalker which is a strong 10/10
Xavier Reyes
Are you, perhaps, on the run from multiple international military and spying agencies?
Owen Long
I havent's seen Ivan's Childhood but Rublev is definitely worth it if you like his style. IIRC it's divided into episodes so it is probably intended to be watched in multiple sittings. A lot of people are turned off by his relatively long shots. I remember hearing somewhere that the average length of a shot in one of his films (can't remember which one) was nearly 2 minutes.
pic related was amazing and very Yea Forums (in the ideal sense).it is a bit long but the length is vital for the subject at hand. also never seen such a beautiful woman (fully nude) in a movie where the nudity is handled in such a way that there is nothing overtly sexual about it, it's only a natural part of the artistic process. very based movie.
check out some taiwanese directors, hou hsiao-hsien and tsai ming-liang. one of the best openings to a film I've probably ever seen: youtube.com/watch?v=8ubt8JvykiQ
"I even made poor Louis take me on crusade. How's that for blasphemy? I dressed my maids as amazons and rode bare-breasted halfway to Damascus. Louis had a seizure and I damn near died of windburn.... But the troops were dazzled."
Liam Miller
she has the best figure I've seen, truly perfect casting
Joseph James
Noisy Requiem.
Lincoln King
>i will never grow up in salzburg what am i doing here? why am i alive?
French New Extremity films are like Houellebecqian cinema. I particularly enjoyed Leos Carax's 'Pola X' and 'Mauvais Sang'. Noé's 'I Stand Alone' is worth mentioning here, and I heard that 'Love' references Peter Sotos.
Elijah Taylor
My Dinner with Andre Barry Lyndon Wild Strawberries The Wages Of Fear Chimes at Midnight The Age of Innocence Howards End
Isaiah White
this is a great film
Lucas White
I like Trust from Hal Hartley as well. Henry Fool is the most "literally" "literary".
Brody Morgan
ahem. P A S O L I N I
but i can recommend a film virtually unheard of outside of Russia, "Cargo 200" (dir. Balabanov). macabre but painfully realistic. his entire filmohraphy is like that.
Whatever (Houellebecq) Un homme qui dort Rohmer movies
Ethan Lee
Mary & Max
Ryan Rogers
I attended a talk at a university by the director which, sadly, was not very interesting. It was very rote inspirational talk sort of thing. bla bla, I was on Centrelink haha how relatable, get inspired, you can win an Academy Award like me if you get a govt grant.
Joseph Johnson
>Yea Forums is the board most predicated with people who strive to be cultured in the old sense of the word
What was the ethnicity of the main character in Noisy Requiem?
Carter Parker
Why does everything have to be strictly literature? Sometimes it's nice to talk about others things with other people who share your interests in other places. You cunts ruin everything with your whining.
Jackson Howard
Cargo 300 is more based.
Michael Scott
The only movies that I've watched the past few years was Arrival, Ex Machina, Blade Runner, Annihilation, and Calvary. They were all pretty good.
It’s difficult to recommend films on Yea Forums, because the best films usually make the most of their medium, and so tend to be the least ‘literary’. ‘Pure cinema’ as one might call it. For example Bresson.
Cooper Sullivan
with that noted, do you have some good recommendations? anything that particularly stuck with you, moved you?
Sure, most things I really like manage to create an interesting atmosphere, or to transmit a feeling without words. A few options:
Stalker The Wicker Man Empire of Pleasure Brazil (for atmosphere much more than narrative) The Devils any Antonioni (for film language, especially La Notte) any Nic Roeg (especially Walkabout, Bad Timing, Don’t Look Now) the Terrorizers Badlands Assasiantion of Jesse James Repo man Babette’s Feast Ugetsu Monogatari Distant Voices Still Lives (and any Terrence Davies)
I can recommend more if you have specific things you want
Lincoln Sanders
Sorry that was Empire of Passion i meant there. I’ll also add Pastoral Hide and Seek to the list for now
Justin Walker
Eros+massacre
Carter Jenkins
SO MUCH THIS
LADS...... LAAAAAAAAADS..........
SCREENWRITING IS AN INFERIOR CRAFT.
t.failedscreenwriter
Luke Adams
>Why does everything have to be strictly literature? FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR BOARD
Charles Richardson
You can go back to where you came from instead of shitting this place up with your gatekeeping
Christian Fisher
He's right, though, moving pictures is a brainlet medium and you should fuck off.
Elijah Sanchez
I'm saying that not everything has to be strictly literature to be acceptable here. You're opinion on film is irrelevant.
Juan Bell
Some of the core stuff in case people wanted to get into films
Kubrick's stuff 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Eyes Wide Shut (1999) Dr. Strangelove (1964)
I can personally recommend: Bei qing cheng shi (1989) - common people do ordinary stuff and nothing much really happens. very slow and calm movie, i love it.
Can't think of a summary for the rest, sorry Taste of Cherry (1997) Oslo, 31. august (2011) Salinui chueok (2003) Lars and the Real Girl (2007)
Screenwriting is literature. If you disagree stop reading Shakespeare and other playwrights.
Ayden Ward
film is audio-visual pollution and an embodiment about everything that is wrong with the modern world.
>the scripts to the movies i'm watching are shakespeare tier aw, sweaty...
Ian Richardson
Watch Fanny and Alexander. The TV (longer) edition.
Nolan Reyes
Rewatched Thin Red Line yesterday. Holy cow
Daniel Wood
>shakespeare tier Very few things are on the level of Shakespeare. If this is the standard you have then you are going to be disappointed by a lot of works of art.
Jonathan Cook
>Very few things are on the level of Shakespeare. But there's a lot of overrated movies with a cult following of pseuds.
David Howard
I'm not sure why this is relevant. There are also a lot of overrated books with a cult following of pseuds. I don't conclude from this that literature is a worthless medium.
Angel Williams
Being there
Asher Ward
You said there's not a lot of things that reach the level of Shakespeare, but I point out that there's lots of overrated movies. Therefore some movies reach the level of Shakespeare. Get it?
What does Yea Forums think of Noah Baumbach? I've been going through his films recently, and I like pretty much everything I've seen. Especially Frances Ha, The Meyerowitz Stories, and Mistress America.
Ethan Brooks
Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets (1971)
mike leigh's naked is nice, mentions the greeks, talks a lot about the bible and some /x/ nostradamus shit the ninth gate pure cheese but can be a comfy thriller
Juan Gray
I’ve only seen Frances Ha and found it quite shallow in a particularly American way, so i didn’t bother with his other movies.
Brandon Davis
This kind of threads are allways like that because more obscue mivies deal with more narrow individual tastes. Indian summer 1972
>Frances Ha Saw it at the movies on a date with some art hoe. Awful, awful stuff.
Nathan Perry
Zeit der Kannibalen / Age of Cannibals. One of the funniest films of the decade and made by fucking Germans no less, it shouldn't even exist. It's much better than Toni Erdman. Think Trier's Dogville but against a backdrop of turbocapitalism.
>current year >german film >arte approval >public funding pass
Jonathan Collins
something about contemporary european cinema and art in general, especially comedy, screams cringe. it's some uncanny valley shit. failure to grasp aesthetic.
Adam Harris
70s italy fucks my shit up hard and I don't know why
Wyatt Garcia
I grew up in Salzburg. It was okay I guess.
Luke Bell
name 1 ONE film that competes with HAMLET.
Isaiah Young
pseud obscure and enjoyable films i recently watch: johnny mad dog play (ruben ostlund) godspeed you black emperor marat/sade cinemania (2002) a documentary about cinema addicts. pretty Yea Forums heaven knows what joe (john g avildsen, 1970) serie noire (1979, writing by georges perec and with one in a million performance of patrick dewaere...)
after reading too much of thomas bernhard, austria seems to me like a rotten, hypocrite and oppresive place. i mean, i literally see it in this kind of photos.
Jacob Flores
that grumpy fucker change my mind of an entire country.
Kevin Long
I want sad movies because i want to kill myself. Recs?
Yeah it's like the greatest film of all time. Just go in with some context of Andrei's life and know that some scenes happen in dreams
Eli Ortiz
This opening is mesmerizing, the film itself ephemeral but oddly heartbreaking. I once knew a girl who looked like Vicky.
Austin Howard
No such thing as a Yea Forums film. Movies are as stupid as anime and videogames, all of them build trash narratives for people who need information spoonfeeding. Literature outstands all of these in terms of narrative depth and scope. Now go read a book.
The other notable Roy Andersson film (was on Netflix a little while ago), Naked, a couple Wes Anderson movies be viewed as comfy lit (Grand Budapest Hotel especially)
Matthew Thompson
/pol/ is also the place most predicated people who strive to be retarded in the old sense of the word but you don't see them making threads about how to prune those extra chromosomes, do you?
Easton Mitchell
>cinemania (2002) a documentary about cinema addicts. pretty Yea Forums Yea Forums is nowhere near as dedicated as those spergers. great doc though. I love the bit at the end where some the subjects walk out because the aspect ratio is wrong
Nicholas Thompson
Here is the film equivalent of Gravity’s rainbow. Problematic religious upbringing, cults, upskirt photography, ultraviolence, slapstick humour, absurdity, long drifting scenes in which biblical verses are recited word for word, boners, crossdressing, a love story
yes, you are right. Yea Forums is not that peculiar. i think is what i want Yea Forums to be. but its not. i thought i was the only one who watch that doc. i loved that spergs for no reason at all.
hong kong erotic film adpated from a chinese literature classic from 17th century, "The Carnal Prayer Mat", so you can watch it with the noble motive of illuminating yourself with oriental high culture.
check out cine manifest (2006) which is the autobiopic of the eponymous group of marxist film makers in san francisco who started a commune to make films in the 70s, and mostly wound up writing snarky notes to each other and trying to evict a drug addicted nick ray. it's what i dream a Yea Forums collective would come to. only they did actually make some movies.
Gavin Butler
Watch The Cradle Will Rock which also has Hank Azaria in it, to see the death of federal theatre and Jack Black bullying Bill Murray.
William Gomez
It's a great watch but Alexander is such a smug little bitchboi holy shit.
tfw we're currently living in a golden age of film. The best movies on the 2010s will be remembered as some of the best movies of all time: Norte, The End of History Once Upon a Time in Anatolia The Four Time Uncle Boonmee Kaili Blues and there's more, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. Some incredible films being produced these days.
it's the worst decade for film since the 80s. what's wrong with you?
Wyatt Jackson
imagine being dumb like this
Gabriel Anderson
maybe in America, but the rest of the world is making incredible works of art at an unprecedented pace
Christian Morales
look to the east
Nolan Baker
Do you consider Bladerunner a top contender?
Austin Reed
add hard to be a god to that list
Alexander Rodriguez
No, Hollywood is getting worse and worse at making movies. The only American movies in the past decade I've thought were worth watching were Computer Chess (2013) and Meek's Cutoff (2010). I really wanted Silence to be good, but I don't think Scorcese's editor understood what he was trying to do or the films that inspired it.
Jordan Jackson
>Norte, The End of History my first lav diaz film what should i expect?
Charles Carter
it's based on Crime and Punishment, so be prepared for it to touch just about every topic worth thinking about
Jordan Barnes
Anything recent you'd like to recommend? Just saw The Burning and was pretty disappointed.
Zachary Morris
The script is based on a book, that's the Yea Forums relation (and yes, I mostly mentioned it because it's a fantastic movie).
Oliver Anderson
>All online forums and boards designated for film discussion are filthy garbage, Yea Forums being the filthiest of all >Film discussion on other forums and boards is verboten
It's absolutely pathetic that there seems to be not a single place for film discussion on the entire internet despite the fact that it's the most popular and accessible form of art today. At least we have dank memes, haha
I nominate pic related. It's on the film festival circuit tour right now but will hopefully get digital release soon.
"To fully deconstruct Romanian director Radu Jude’s meta-on-meta “I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians” (the quote marks are part of the title) would require page upon page of single-spaced footnotes, swathes of Hannah Arendt, a deft repackaging of Walter Benjamin’s “Theses on the Philosophy of History,” and a crash course in Romanian anti-Semitism and the nation’s participation in World War II, amid formal nods to Godard, Straub-Huillet, and Marxist critical theory, while martial music plays in the background. Clocking in at an unwieldy 140 minutes, Jude’s extraordinary opus can be overly didactic and unapologetically intellectual at times, but it is also startling —a provocative, sarcastic, and momentous act of interrogation between the past and the present that escalates to an impasse, with the hands of each locked around the neck of the other."
because anyone spending significant time watching movies or tv shows is a fucking brainlet which is reflected in the level of discussion the medium receives.
Easton Brooks
whenever a critic calls a film "shocking" or "startling" I'm immediately suspicious about it. For whatever reason these maximalist, Jodorowskian films always seem to be reviewed highly on the basis that their endearing weirdness forgives their heavy-handed symbolism and pedantic preaching.
Levi Price
thank you. sounds great.
Xavier Garcia
ty user
Jeremiah Fisher
withnail & i
Austin Turner
Hollywood shows and popcorn movies relate to film as YA novels relate to novels. 90 percent of content of any medium is inevitably garbage, that's just the nature of culture. Sure, literature has much more depth as an artform than film, but that's not the point. There's decent discussion forums for "high-brow" art such as literature and for "low-brow" art such as comics. But for some reason, there's no properly functioning forum for films.
Jace White
Seen 30 in the top 100
Ryan Clark
Nothing has, or ever will come close to Tarkosvki. Even after accepting this fact I was able to get some joy from seeing other stuff, Angelopoulos, Eustache, Rivette, Parajanov, Bresson, Lopushansky, Saura, Monteiro, Zulawski, Makhmalbaf, Kiarostami, Kobayashi and Has come to mind.
why he is so undisputable admired. i dont like him at all, no film it was more than a meh to me. i mean, visually he is not something innovative, imaginative or... i dont know, something visually impactful like murnau or kubrick... . also there is a subtle notion that his films have a profound meaning. but, for example, you see the shitty movie sphere, with sharon stone and samuel l jackson?, stalker is not so different thematically and in insight than that. tarkovski seems a very interesting man with interesting ideas in his interviews, but to me his movies are not that rich, varied, originals, or deep. what exactly is his charming?.
Adrian Murphy
If by Yea Forums you mean low-IQ, pretentious, delusional, superstitious, narcissistic (and, admittedly, Yea Forums is all of those) then I pic related is pretty Yea Forums
>Go to r/truefilm they get nowhere in their discussions "it's a vague thing! I suppose it means whatever you want it to mean". there, I saved you the trip.
Jacob Sullivan
You can't be serious.
Brody King
but it's true! most things don't mean anything.
Brayden Cox
Imagine eskimo watching western movies. How are they going to interpret them? Or do the movies not have an objective value, just a subjective value for people that share the culture with the director of the movie? Seems like a faggotty opinion to hold.
Ian Gonzalez
>most things don't mean anything. I hate this fucking >sometimes the curtains are just blue! meme. If an artist has ultimate control over what to show and they're showing you things that mean nothing, they're a bad artist producing meaningless works.
Sebastian Carter
Caught this on Kanopy. It's very funny but I wouldn't call it a thriller
Jace Price
Bataille, is that you?
Sebastian Green
I delete stuff after watching, but I believe I got it from rutracker
Aiden Morales
My dinner with andre is a shitshow
Ryan Price
First of all thanks for responding with an intelligible response, not many people here do that on Yea Forums (most people here are fucking retards, let's face it). My opinion is that the line between meaninglessness and meaning is pretty thin. The author might have chosen blue curtains while having something very specific in mind, but as soon as he puts those words on the page, it becomes something else, something bigger than he intended. His reasoning for why the curtains are blue might be rather retarded, but another person could intepret is as something brilliant, with a totally different reasoning. In that respect being a good writer is something of a matter of luck, but that's totally reasonably. Many respectable writers (i think I remember goethe saying something to that respect) admit that their writings are something bigger than what they intended it to be, that people interpret things in unexpected ways, breathing even more life into it, and their writings become a being of its own, independent of the writer who wrote it. The fact that an authors works can be validly interpreted in different ways doesn't make them a bad author, on the contrary, if their choices provoke thought, that makes them good in their profession. Meaninglessness is quite ill-defined : the world may seem to be meaningless at first, but then what are the physicists, philosophers, mathematicians, economists working on? I don't think there are really meaningless things. Sure, the meaning behind some things could be boring or pedestrian, but then it wouldn't inspire thoughts in the reader, so the writer would fail his purpose.
Parker Bailey
forgot how much I loved basic bitch arthouse movies before seeing this post
I appreciate your sincerity and love for movies. These are all of them great films (except for Ichi) and I respect your post
Jacob Thompson
Agreed, totally overrated. Very Boomer idea of deep conversation (hippie nonsense). I dislike it, but appreciate the general idea motivating it
Hudson Cooper
He's quite good, but if you aren't adjusted to New Yorker upper middlebrow irritating Jew pseudo-intellectualism a la Woody Allen I can totally understand rejecting it. You have to understand that Baumbach is to a certain extent self-aware and not necessarily playing into Woody Allen cliches so much as exaggerating them for comic effect. Greta Gertwig operates in a similar mode; to a large extent she simply applies a shiksa female template to Baumbach
Ian Powell
Toni Erdmann was at least decent, you must admit
Juan Torres
Love that film, alain resnais is in my top 5 French directors
Isaac Powell
>Very Boomer idea of deep conversation (hippie nonsense) I didn't say it was deep or profound (or that I align with the character's wold view), but it is very well acted and written and the whole thing felt natural and didn't feel as artificial as it very easily could've.
Parker Adams
>The fact that an authors works can be validly interpreted in different ways doesn't make them a bad author, on the contrary, if their choices provoke thought, that makes them good in their profession. Maybe, but if the authorial intent isn't there, the author is relying on the reader/viewer to find the meaning for them. When I watch an Ozu protagonist quietly settle into a newfound isolation, it's his genius that brings together all the audio and visual information to produce a moving image laced with themes of age and familial obligation and modernity. That precision of communication is exactly what we celebrate in artists and if we approach a work of art as if the artist didn't exist, we might as well just replace them all with AI at this point.
Ian Moore
Wings by Larisa Sheptiko is kino
Nolan Nelson
“There are very few directors, about whom you’d say you automatically have to see everything they do. I’d put Fellini, Bergman and David Lean at the head of my first list, and Truffaut at the head of the next level.”
songs from the second floor is based on the poems of cesar vallejo
John Reed
cargo 200 is a loose adaptation of "sanctuary" by william faulkner
Gabriel Long
romanian cinema peaked like 15 years ago
Lucas Butler
This thread is great anons
Where can I find a decent Yea Forums like this?
Hudson Adams
doesn't exist. tried starting a thread there and nobody was having it. its all normie tier shit there now.
Zachary Cruz
trash
Jack White
Et tu, Fele?
Benjamin Kelly
Ali
Anthony Moore
Marriage of Maria Braun is a good place to start. Or Bitter tears of petra von kant to see his more theatrical side.
Would also recommend World on a Wire, very different from his other films but a great sci fi movie
Charles Carter
The question for me is, why are his movies so specific then? He manages to speak to only a very small audience (which fortunately for him includes many American critics) without saying much about a more universal human condition. It’s the same problem a lot of contemporary plastic arts have, they lack any sort of connection to more universal values
Noah Clark
Squid and the Whale is the only worthwhile film he's ever made
Lincoln Price
Saw Bergmann's Wild Strawberries and The Seventh Seal but he's not really doing it for me. Do you guys recommend some of his works, did I start with the wrong ones? Planning on watching Persona and Fanny and Alexander next.
So far, I don't see him anywhere near the level of Ozu, Tarkovski, Kurosawa, Bresson, de Sica...
Josiah Jenkins
>he didn't like The Seventh Seal Farewell, my user. I could have raped you, but between you and me? I've tired of that sort of love.
Jacob Mitchell
My second favorite of all time, right after 'A Man For All Seasons'.
Nathan Bennett
>Babette’s Feast my man
Cooper King
Absolutely disgusting that only one poster said Withnail & I, and Chimes at Midnight.
Anthony Rivera
>Uncle Boonmee that movie was top tier, will have to check out the others
Cooper Bennett
Mad cos he didn't get it
Owen Reyes
this is a great thread and I applaud Yea Forums for making so many great recommendations. Haven't seen the following mentioned
An Exterminating Angel Another Year A Petrified Forest Playtime Zazie dans le Metro
The films I've liked lately. >Lessons of the Darkness just gorgeous, and gives you such a nice unique look at the first gulf war and lets you make decisions in regards to how we as a society view the west's actions in the middle east. >US Go Home It's just a supremely comfy film, nice setting, fun characters and world, it's a nostalgic film for people who watch film I think in a lot of ways, like if you've seen Goddard and all that from the 60s you'll feel very nostalgic for the setting. >Proof Nice Aussie film early roles for Russel Crow and Hugo Weaving, just a cool movie I found enjoyable and kind of nicely melancholy
Carson Miller
cringe and bluepilled
Camden Powell
fuck off with jewish propaganda
Adrian Russell
most people are bad artists, especially those in the film industry. unlike literature, which just talent and skill manifested as words on paper, producing a film is more about logistics (organizing funding & actors, most of which are terrible) than actual talent or skill.
Owen Kelly
Wrong board you dumb anti-semite
Zachary Diaz
watch Wolf Hall if you haven't yet
Logan Wood
wrong website, shlomo
Levi Watson
Global rule 3
Jackson Lee
Has anything worthwhile come out of Germany, Austria and Switzerland in the last few years?
Ethan Stewart
i'm not even that guy, get used to the thought that nobody in the world likes you.
Carter Roberts
>nobody outside of /pol/* Fixed that for you. And really I couldn't care less what some xenophobes think
Isaac Watson
>waaah waaah, it's not true I can almost hear your nasal kvetching
Ian Ross
I meant "nobody on /pol/". you know what I mean
Sebastian Rivera
>heh, people like anti-semites like me worldwide "no"
Not an argument. /pol/ definitely the minority with your views. I dare you to go out into public and start ranting about jewish people and see how seriously you are taken
Jason Collins
Well, Toni Erdmann is actually good. Other than that Haneke has gone down recently, no idea about anything else.
Henry Jackson
He's kinda right, though. With the exception of a few american bible thumpers, nobody genuinely likes you and your culture. Your childishly whiny and cuntish behaviour ITT is part of the reason why.
Angel Anderson
lmao I thought about doing a job search there, but every time I open up karriere.at, the head of Thomas Bernhard jumps out of the screen and yells "you don't want to deal with this"
the right-wingers should shill him more desu
Luke Nguyen
Source?
Jeremiah Green
i actually made friends with people from all over the world by exactly doing that.
Lincoln Diaz
>/r/thathappened
Asher Gomez
>reddit reference yeah, figures. i rest my case.
Jason Howard
I don't believe you. Back to your containment board
I can assure you that it's true without even needing a source. It's not about your culture. Speaking about culture in this time where everything is Americanized to the point of disgust is the equivalent of severe brain damage. So it's not a /pol/tard speaking here, because I'm convinced that nations are based on fiction and so on, whatever.
It's about the perceived influence of the Jewish people in the west, especially America. Any other fictive nation would love to have that kind of influence on the Senate/White House or any other American institution, but they don't have it and that's why the Jews are a problem. It's not directly against the Jews but about their position and the desire of other people to be in that position too.
Christian Wilson
>source: dude trust me nah. even /pol/ knows they are the minority
Jason Ward
Count the number of Bar Mitzvahs in Hollywood movies.
Jackson Evans
Jewish people aren't religious
Matthew Russell
Not my point.
Gabriel Adams
A cinema in my city used to be call "Royal", after the company that had established it: Royal Film. When they sold it in the 90s to a culture organisation, the theatre lost its legal rights to the name, and the new owners decided to turn off the last two letters in its locally famous neon sign, dubbing it "Roy". Partly in Roy Anderssons honour, and parly to avoid legal issues.
Try watching Antonioni in black and white, then speak about pure kino.
Jordan Gomez
sorry, i'm not gay
Evan Young
Not liking Ichi is basic asf
Kayden Barnes
>the same board that idolises shitty, boring classic lit also adores shitty, boring psuedo cinema Who'd have thunk it
Jose Morgan
the worst part is when really good directors like renoir and welles get mentioned next to (usually one step down from) awful men like bergman, or worse, tarkovsky.
That disliking something solely because it's popular is hipster behavior. There is nothing inherently wrong with disliking classics, but desperately telegraphing "X IS POPULAR AND I DISLIKE X" with no specific criticisms or information of value given comes across as desperate attention seeking.
>implying I dont read >implying I dont watch cinema >implying I care to read hundreds of pages of sad Europeans being angsty >implying I care to see sad Russians dwell on the intricacies of the human condition for two, awful hours on film
Easton Rogers
>movie is boring so it's bad ! boring is only a valid criticism of entertainment.
Dominic Torres
films (& novels) ought to be entertaining
Sebastian White
go back to Yea Forums
Jason Ramirez
well since shakespeare, homer & cervantes felt the same i can't be in bad company
Joshua Robinson
imagine unironically holding this opinion
Mason Powell
you're only letting yourself in for a lot of boredom (and its companion, real hatred).
Isaiah Myers
stop bickering you little fucking dweebs
Luis Morris
>>movie is boring so it's bad ! Its a valid criticism. You're deluded if you feel otherwise.
Colton Allen
entertainment back in those eras had a different meaning than today. Shakespeare, Homer and Cervantes didnt write schlock for low IQ plebs, they wrote high class entertainment for the upper rungs of society. None of them would approve of adults consuming modern manchild "entertainment" like capeshit, star wars and harry potter.
Carson Foster
I never said I like Welles' films and even if I did that doesn't mean I would take everything he said for law. Anyway, he is speaking about the "whole range" of art. Shoehorning that quote into this context doesn't make a convincing argument to justify dismissing specific works for no reason other than contrarianism.
>films (& novels) ought to be entertaining Entertaining to who? If I'm entertained and you are not is the film/book bad? If you are entertained but I am not is it good? If we are both entertained but a third isn't? Obviously every work of art is going to be divisive and will not entertain or bore everyone equally. That's even assuming that books/films must (or even should) always be entertaining, which I don't. Maybe some art should make you feel uncomfortable, bored, disgusted, etc.
Logan Cruz
well, shakespeare wrote for the groundlings, for the unscholarly globe patrons who walked in from the cockfight on the street. and homer's audiences were crass and anti-intellectual. who mentioned star wars?
>dismissing specific works which specific works?
>Obviously every work of art is going to be divisive and will not entertain or bore everyone equally. obviously, which is why welles questions why is there this absolute unanimity and certainty that everybody has about everything. everyone agrees on what is classic and what is not.
Anthony Williams
>maybe some art should be boring No.
Everything else you've said yes.
Chase Clark
>Its a valid criticism. You're deluded if you feel otherwise. Nobody who saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 would have called it boring in a million years, but to a modern audience it's painfully slow. What does that have to do with the artistic integrity of the movie? Literally nothing and you're a deluded low-attention span millennial if you feel otherwise.
>which specific works? See: I don't disagree with you that the classics should be treated critically, I disagree that calling something boring is a valuable critique, even if it is truly boring for that individual. 90% of Americans would find Moby Dick boring, that doesn't make it a bad novel.
Christopher Barnes
Fair enough. I should have said that good art CAN be boring for certain people, not SHOULD be boring.
Carson Gonzalez
Screenplays are literature, retard.
That movie fucking sucked.
Wim Wender's City of Angels, or Paris, Texas, or Until the End of the World. Watch any of those three.
Chase Roberts
if i'd found moby dick boring, that would make it a bad novel. on my terms anyway, and those are the only terms anybody knows - his own.
Benjamin Nguyen
I don’t get it
Camden Johnson
> Shakespeare, Homer and Cervantes didnt write schlock for low IQ plebs, they wrote high class entertainment for the upper rungs of society.
Jonathan Howard
> “modern audience” is a single entity What's more important, you are part of it.
Gabriel White
> so short of time he can't even watch an acclaimed masterpiece
Andrew Reyes
The Lion King
Mason Cox
my video diary desu.
Josiah Jackson
you sound like an intellectual. are you?
Caleb Miller
surely an adaption of hamlet
Wyatt Ward
somebody recommended this here a while ago too and it's one of the best that I've seen for a really, really long time. Wim Wenders is good shit. Paris, Texas of his is also mandatory viewing
Platform is his best I reckon Also ash is the purest white is decent
Jordan King
>Wim Wender's City of Angels, or Paris, Texas, or Until the End of the World. Watch any of those three. My favourite wim wenders is kings of the road. That's one of my favourite films
Leo Hughes
LES ENFANTS DU PARADIS CHILDREN OF PARADIS Yea Forums, how has this never been mentioned?
William Bailey
>Nobody who saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 would have called it boring in a million years Google it. They were.
Jack Turner
8 chanz film board is decent but slow
Ryder Parker
The Meyerowitz Stories is brilliant. I also really enjoyed While We're Young
Asher Jones
Please recommend some Yea Forums movies if I like linguistics and anthropology. Stuff like Aguirre and Embrace of the Serpent is more than welcome
Elijah Thompson
Anybody here seen Duck you sucker
Michael Ross
Lost City of Z is good Jauja maybe, although you might find it too slow
James Smith
I mostly watch silents and early colour/sound films. The keystones of that period would be Griffith, Stroheim, Sternberg, Demille, Murnau, Eisenstein and Chaplin for silents; Renoir, Rossellini, Ray, Bunuel and Lubitsch (Ford and Welles are good too, but they're on the second tier). For more modern directors, I quite like Ferrara, Mann, Godard and Altman.
>In pain? You must know that torture's important, Wallace... 'cause it lifts the morale of the torturer. Didn't they teach you that at the university? You are trapped by your higher education. It leaves its own smell on you. I know it too well. >I know you do and I can't imagine how a man of your background could... >On the contrary, what's surprising is that a man like me... could remain all those years watching life as a spectator... before he discovered the force that was in him. Do you have any idea what can be accomplished here if you're a man of intelligence? Where brutish morons have succeeded in usurping the power in the land? >Yes, he'd certainly be in a position to improve things. But not a weak man like Brett Fletcher. You change your spots. You're civilized among civilized people and violent among the violent. You're quite ready to adapt to any new background like a parasite. >Pity you didn't pay attention at school, Wallace. The philosophy of violence. You recall it? One violent soul is just an outlaw... a hundred a gang. A hundred thousand... an army. That is the point. Beyond the confines that limit the outlaw and individual criminal... violence by masses of men is called history. I must say that I'm glad I've been able to speak with an equal who understands me. Those others are only able to understand the simplest things. Such as the fact that a spy pays the penalty. [cocks revolver] Reasons of state, Wallace. You studied history so you know what I mean. Not out of hate... but with compassion. [gunshot]
that's because you live in the part of the world that isn't the "most people on earth" area
Ian Cooper
And you do? No one even thinks of them as different than white people outside the West
Jack Jenkins
>imagine believing this
Carter Gutierrez
why are you so hell-bent on proving that people don't hate jews? that's quite telling, don't you think?
Carter Sanchez
Its the movie Faccua a faccia?
Levi Williams
Thank you
Cooper Robinson
We counting the middle east and China as "the west" now huh?
Isaac Ramirez
these days I've learned it is better to not waste my breath arguing with certain people about certain subjects, or getting pissed off about idiots being idiots. every time I come to a place full of idiots, and find myself saying to myself "jesus christ, what fucking idiots!" I am always forgetting that I knew it was full of fucking idiots, but then I still chose to come and speak about certain topics that I knew agitated certain idiots. there are some good people, too. take the good, leave the rest. some shit is not worth it. what percentage of the shit people talk about or do online is a complete waste of time, or worse?
Sebastian Taylor
Yes, same writer as once upon a time in the west and duck you sucker.
Matthew Brooks
Persona The Silence Fanny and Alexander Cries and Whispers Summer with Monika Through a Glass Darkly
Noah White
Yeah! My dad was a big western fan and I watched a lot of these movies, Coburn was one of my favorite actors at the time
Blake Murphy
Cries and Whispers is awful though, by far his worst film and almost like a parody of a Bergman film. Like a Bergman film described in a Woody Allen film. No wonder Americans loved it and gave it the Oscar. All the others you mentioned are great though, especially fanny and alexander.
Dylan Taylor
>Like a Bergman film described in a Woody Allen film i'd take that over a bergman film any day