Yea Forums: without the mentorship of elders, young men only have each other to bounce off of and learn from...

Yea Forums: without the mentorship of elders, young men only have each other to bounce off of and learn from. that's when you get some intense ingroup sort of fucking lost boys shit developing, gang-like vicious barbarism like we tend to see here in heaps.

I believe the vast majority of the young men here are in dire need of guidance from older, wiser, well meaning men - who actually care about their future for their own sake and not selfishly. Is it that our generations are all so alienated from each other? Is it that the older generations we have access to are just incredibly fucked? There are various books which go into the psychological development of men, the necessity of older men transmitting to the younger men of what it means to be a man. The values, the struggles, the rewards. Younger men are hungry for these things but don't know where to look. One reason why Jordan Memerson and others get such a huge following. But, that has sort of a bitter feeling to it

What the FUCK are we supposed to do? I guess reading books from men of the past is one thing, but can that really compare to the type of transmission of face-to-face stuff? Is that also no substitute for the fact of being mentored by someone whose destiny yours is intertwined with, who sees your current struggles and stands with you? Should we not try to re-establish the continuum of mentorship with the even younger generations now with what little we can gather?

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when the oldfags get driven off by redditors you end up with /pol/

Thinking for your self is tough huh?
The smell of summer is in the air.

no man is an island

Do you not have a dad or something?

What we need is a slut who will put out without much of a struggle, and in compensations we can tattoo their name on our forehead- that way we could all be CHADSTERS

my old man is a FUCK who literally tried to sabotage my life on purpose so that I wouldn't become more successful than him. haven't talked to him in 7 years.

Why is Nalt on the cover of Lord of the Flies?

a strong supporting role would help, but I think what Yea Forums lacks most isn't encouragement. Its perspective, a support system that encourages empathy, and an understanding that its okay to not know everything

Great OP, and I have to say I concur wholeheartedly, for it has been my situation as well. Lack of masculine guidance has characterised my life, resulting in hindering the development of my soul and mind. The level of emasculation amongst men in their early/mid/late twenties is nothing to be scoffed at. My life has been a mess and I’ve hit rock bottom on many levels, and do not label myself as to have a solution for this, but in my case, it’s been religion and philosophy which have made - forced me - to grow up, to rid myself of the anxiety, idleness I was suffocated by, giving my life not a goal, but a way to live. This is a very brief comment on a extremely complex extensive issue, but it’s my .2.
There’s a reason the Greeks and Romans regarded mentor ship as something invaluable in shaping great men, one could argue this is reciprocated in most religions (see priests in Christianity)

Do people not have father figures in the west, like why is everyone so fucking pathetic? It's easy to fix your life in 1 year to be in superior shape, a peak health condition and have a pure mind. I feel like someone needs to write instructions for you guys. Since most of you just end up liking some random alt-right hobo. That will never help you with girls, getting a job, or actually help install a true right wing gov. Also reading books without actually absorbing their knowledge is useless and most books from this era are without any deeper substance whatsoever.

But yeah for you fags without a dad:
> pick 1 good and 1 bad habit each month, do the good thing avoid the bad thing.
> drop porn, anime, manga, youtube, Yea Forums, reddit, social media, gay fantasy books like TNW or ASOIF
> start working out at home and walk a lot more, try maybe with hitting 1k steps a day and add 1k more every month or every two/three weeks if that is too slow.
> after a few months of working out at home try street work out or go to the gym, you should be confident enough now, if not go with a friend to feel safe.
> read Evola and similar books
> fix your diet and buy a blender. Eat/drink smoothies 3-4 times a week, reduce meet to 400g a week and don't eat junkfood.
> don't voice your world views nor debate them online it's useless and could cost you your job. (Only discuss in private this things)
> after 8-9 months you will be close to above average, invite your friends to join you, if they refuse find new friends
> every now and then try to convince others online to go down the same path

I didn't talk about education, but get a degree or do MOOCs, if you cannot afford to go to school or don't live in Evropa (i.e. mutt)

these things*

Also it's perfectly fine to not get a degree and do a blue collar job if you are good at it or not smart enough to get a STEM degree or any other degree that pays. And try to be understanding of people that struggle towards success it is never easy. But also don't go too fast, if you rush things you will fail 95%. Since you are on Yea Forums you will fail 99.99% if you rush. Go slow, but steady and if you break your streak just keep going! Gl fags. Also don't be a liberal.

GUYS ITS TIME TO FEEL BAD

Pretty much this, if you never had the father, become the father that everyone looks up to

Remember, most male mammals do things by themselves it’s not like they want or need anyone either, why should young human males need anyone?

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I would recommend exercise and contemplating the spiritual with the goal of building YOUR relationship with what's transcendent, whatever may be revealed to YOU, independent of the rest of us terrible awful people around you.

Maybe if you only communicate with other on Yea Forums. I myself have a social circle that ain't an anonymous image board.

I’m actually praying that I can be born into a rich family in my next life. That way I can follows neets and bully them into thinking that they’re failure is their own fault and not a result of being born into failing circumstances. Meanwhile I can shitpost about they’re interests as a means of destroying the only comforts they get out of life. Seems like top tier living

The boomers are giant children and their parents are senile.

Is it not? Here in Europe you get free education and equal opportunities to reach your goal. Everyone be they poor or rich can acquire the necessary knowledge to earn money, it only requires effort.

> effort
Something most self entitled retards don't want to do. Because their brain has been thought by vidya and porn that it is easy to get what you want. Suddenly the whole world is unfair and they star hating chads and talk about how the game is rigged. Guess what the game is rigged in the way that they try to turn you all into lazy incel slobs who keep making up excuses for their condition. I'm not some rich prick selling you books on how I got rich and getting richer from said books. I'm telling you this because I want our side to get richer and more powerful, we cannot stay a bunch of weak incels.

Also said interests and hobbies were things I did before I decided tho change. And so can you. Stop being weak, try this for a month and see for yourself.

If you are literate, I mean really literate, you are the richest person in the universe. You would know that if you were. Stick around kid, you may learn something. There are a few wizards who are known to lurk these corners of the web from time to time

I think we all wish that the best lessons were imparted formally in an initiatory rite, daubed face to daubed beard. But many things are inevitably learned by you, live, without training or preparation. That is ok, and that is the lot of really everyone who isn't living in a bubble. The trouble with "establishing continuums of mentorship" is you need your students to be highly motivated. There's very much a potential energy situation where if you cannot muster the strength to claw up from the morass and find something greater, then that's where you'll stew. Its also not the most terrible doom either, an architecture built partially by good intentions with scarcity and no time for perfection, maybe it collapses and we're all screwed. But most likely it muddles along ugly and horrible. If you have it in you to contribute to something like an update or a fix or a new perspective, then by all means do it. Our world is in great need of help. But you cannot have a mentor give you urgency. A mentor cannot reveal to you in whole. I think you're more ready than you think, Anons. The bear must leave its cave forever. The world has grown sick without you. Your lives have lead you to reading just this, to already understanding what you must do, the pieces gathered, assembled however you see fit, you must only decide to construct. You needn't be perfect or holy. You must only put your heart into it, to refuse to be lied to, to refuse to be one of the wreckers too, to put yourself to building something larger than yourself, to rediscovering the graces of membership to large, grand systems, to discovering harmony, to building the harmonies were there were none as your highest art form, to being absolutist in your service to these principles.

Thanks sir. I recently picked up reading, also if my grammar seems off it's because I'm on my phone and it's a bit tiresome to grammar check.

>400g a week

you literally need 200g a day minimum to not end up massively deficiet in protein and iron

Why do brainlets love platitudes so much?

This book was written by a teacher in an affluent all-boys boarding school who hated all his shithead students. It is inapplicable to any other group of people.

The real message here is that rich white boys are the biggest pussies on earth, with the most disproportionate sense of worth, which they exercise through violence.

>smell of summer
>le epic summerfags
And this ISN'T a platitude? lmaoing at your life

>That will never help you with girls, getting a job, or actually help install a true right wing gov.

Well played.

>John Donne is platitudes
Why do you even come to a literature board