The Elementary Particles

This is an incel manifesto.
Houellebecq dresses up his ideas with intelligent and witty prose but the spiritual message of the novel is the same as Elliot Rodger's "My Twisted World". In fact, Houellebecq might be worse since he directs his anger at all of mankind rather than only sorority girls.

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two years ago you wouldnt have used the term incel. why are you using it now?

Language evolves.

I think you're a little low IQ if you think that. Houellebecq's misanthropy is infused with a deeply felt compassion for suffering, male and female, human and animal. Rodger's message -- and I don't blame him for it, he was deeply unwell -- was about retribution against the world because of what it did to HIM. Houellebecq has humanity transform on a fundamental level to permanently and universally alleviate psychic suffering, to heal. Also with Elliot Rodger, despite flinging more invective against women, you can detect that a lot of the focus of his anger and resentment is toward other males. In a sense his sexual frustration stems from social frustration; he thought he couldn't be equal with his same-sex peers because of his virginity, he felt alone and alienated and thought his lack of sexual experience was what differentiated him from people he longed to connect with.

I read it as a meditation on the perils of abandoning the sanctity of human consciousness in favour of bowing at the altar of hedonistic materialism, when we're clearly not equipped to do so. In the narrator's view, this has left the world in a state of individualistic alienation ('atomisation', or 'the elementary particles'). Obsession over sex, fetishising youth and discarding anything that doesn't potentiate hedons (like old age) are the pillars of this world

Bruno and Michel are two sides of the same coin, offspring spawned by the so called sexual liberation of the 60s (their mother Janette): sex addiction and asexuality. Two poles, rather than a continuum. Bruno struggles to find meaning by submitting to his hedonistic impulses, while Michel is reactionary, but can't escape his obsession with materialism. His work attempts to find a materialistic map of consciousness and free it from sex infused vanity. Since sex is the problem, mitosis is the answer: "It's a curious idea to reproduce, when you don't even like life".

It's been a while since I read it, but I remember finding it a pretty vivid and interesting picture of the potential hell of hedonistic materialism. Not sure what this has to do with enforcing inceldom though. Maybe you could provide some arguments OP.

Michel's inability to ask Annabelle to be his girlfriend when they were teenagers set up the rest of their miserable lives. Even though she obviously liked Michel, I still consider his case to be inceldom because he could not make it happen even though some part of him wanted to.

Bruno's inceldom is more straightforward. He is consumed by a desire to fuck young women but usually cannot except when he pays prostitutes.

My working definition of incel does not require virginity, only an tendency to have unfulfilled sexual desires and relationships.

Oh. I see what you mean now. It's a case of "the characters', or narrator's character/behaviour" is the author's direct endorsement of them. While the two characters' inceldom is debatable since all inceldom means is being involuntarily celibate -they will, or will not fit this description at different times in the narration-, inceldom is clearly one of the many repercussions of the world Houellebecq paints here, but it bears no significance with regards to his endorsement of it.

>implying Becky's chrarcters aren't thinly veiled copies of himself
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>implying that even if that's the case, that's an endorsement of their behaviour/condition.

No one "endorses" inceldom. I'm not sure what you're on about.

>Houellebecq has humanity transform on a fundamental level to permanently and universally alleviate psychic suffering, to heal.

Humans go extinct. The genetically engineered asexuals cannot be considered human, in my opinion.

I'm going to write the Chad manifesto. I'm thinking of calling it "The Complex Wave"

I'm on about OPs statement that "This is an incel manifesto". That implies prescription and/or endorsement of incel views. Not the case, but more importantly irrelevant. It is a book about the two poles of hypersexual, hedonistic materialism: chaos and sex addiction on one end and asexual empiricism on the other, as represented by the two brothers. There is no indication that the authorial intent is to validate, excuse, or celebrate their 'inceldom' and the way they face the world as a consequence.

you clearly havent even read the novel. None of the characters are incels. 2/10 bait, made me reply.

So everything is "incel" now? 90% of the planet is incel according to your definition.

In this case "incel views" are the destruction of the human race as the method to alleviate suffering related to sexual reproduction. Nothing is endorsed or supported except the end of human existence. This is exactly what Elliot Rodger did (kill others and self) but at the grandest scale possible.

This book and Submission are the only two books I've read by the author. I enjoyed them very much. Tried Platform recently and it was so bad I had to quit after three attempts. Looking forward to the English translation of Serotonin. In the meantime, any recommendations on what books of his to try next?

Incels are maybe 25% of the population. Some others are volcels, but most people are neither.

IQ is a spook

I'm going to start reading Whatever today, maybe you should too.

Fine, whatever.

A spook can be a spook and still be useful and valid. This is what Stirner had wrong about his entire thing. Low IQ post.

I'm personally partial to The Possibility of an Island. Don't get your hopes up for Serotonin (although my judgment might be distorted by being an absolute novice in reading French). Also since it's short anyway.

I had the same reaction to Platform. Possibility of an Island and Whatever are better. read them before Serotonin comes out in September.

>Don't get your hopes up for Serotonin

That seems to be the growing consensus among reviews I've read. I've crossed the idea twice that he's either "sold out" or "wimped out" from whatever new societal statement he was attempting to make. As long as I enjoy the journey I'm content. What about it would you say is lackluster?

You have to be 18 to post here. Again, do not mistake characters for authorial intent. If you write a book about lowering the ages of consent to 8 years old and map out the world that results from this, I won't take it as your endorsement of it.

Why was Platform so bad?

Fuck man, it's been a while. I remember the prose not getting me hard and being irked by some narration devices like using media (like tv programs, brochures and stuff) to make le epic point, or give insight into a character. They don't sound bad as stand-alone criticisms, but... You know what. IFuck it. I'll give it another go, since I'm a retard with no semantic memory. I've only dropped it once anyway.

it's actually not. a fair 7/10 novel, not extremely Houellebecqian but honest, reasonable, sometimes emotional and funny.

>a book about lowering the ages of consent to 8 years old and map out the world that results from this
thats actually an insteresting idea for a story, any books on this?

Just travel to the Islamic world.

Where to start with Hollaback?

Was thinking Whatever

>What about it would you say is lackluster?
So far it's like his other books except without any of the interesting parts. What's left is a dude traveling and thinking about cows and restaurants.
I liked Platform btw.

Just go chronologically.

That being said, iIRC "incel" isn't actually new terminology on the internet (at least in the way that 'soiboi' and 'SJW' were when people first started using them). I'm pretty sure the term "incel" appeared or was initially "popularized" in niche internet communities back in like the mid-2010s. Then suddenly ca. 2017ish it started getting mainstream media attention and became the target of Tumblr's retard "activists" (funny how quickly Tumblr died btw).

In no part, this book addressed the theme of gen modification or anything like that.
At the end of the book A main character kills himself and humanity ends, creating a way for the next species.
Would not recommend. 5/10.

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I remember there's a part where he describes exactly what (chemically) happens to a human body on its way to decomposition. But I don't remember it being about incels.

Just reading the epilogue of Atomised having nearly finished at quite a pace. Thought it was a good insight into two different modern men and there nodes of being in the world. The standard narrative stuff can be really easy and enjoyable to read, though the metaphysical philosophising slows things down if you are brailet like me. An ambitious improvement over Whatever, though I'm not sure if Submission is still my favourite (of the three I've read). Platform next.

Don't use a shitty ill-defined fad concept like Incel to describe a book written more than thirty years ago.

He's been married several times. Hardly compatible with an incel.

Read Marx first.

Incel was associated with soft boys or whatever the fuck they were called. The incel movie from back then is a fun watch though, it's where the super autist meme comes from.

Incel is the new nigger on Yea Forums. Doesnt it piss you off every time you read it? It fills you with hate, just like this image board.

Have sex gets me every time too.

>nigger
>piss you off every time you read it
>fills you with hate
you need to go back

Word-thinkers. Their thought is entirely shaped by new words that they learn and they are disproportionately affected by psyops such as incel

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