>We’ve fallen into this quite unconscious belief about what we are and where we come from and where we’re going, and that actually sends us collectively to sleep. Because somehow we are on a course in the west now, a course of forgetfulness, a course of not understanding our sacred origins. And it’s wonderful we can romanticize about the sacred origins of Tibetan Buddhism and South American Shamanic traditions and anything, as long as it’s not our own origins. And that’s part of this tremendous misunderstanding, this tremendous resistance. This is one of the paradoxes found with the ideal of Oneness, bringing together different traditions. We bring together every single tradition except our own. Because we don’t know that there’s a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization. We don’t know that there’s a sacred tradition that gave rise to logic and biology and chemistry and weaponry and engineering. There’s so much that’s been lost it’s unbelievable.
We’ve fallen into this quite unconscious belief about what we are and where we come from and where we’re going...
>We bring together every single tradition except our own. Because we don’t know that there’s a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization. We don’t know that there’s a sacred tradition that gave rise to logic and biology and chemistry and weaponry and engineering. There’s so much that’s been lost it’s unbelievable.
People do know there's a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization. They just think they're supposed to rebel against it, which is why there's so many people wanting to tear down western tradition and uphold foreign traditions. They know it's sacred, otherwise they would feel no need to try to tear it down.
>People do know there's a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization
No they don’t
The key Western difference is that its sacred traditions are the least persuasive to the instinct for dogmatic obedience and against curiosity, whether about the natural world outside ourselves or what is discoverable through introspection. They more weakly resist the impulse to know.
Neither of you seem to understand that the sacred origins of the west are lost. What remains are very very obscure texts written in poetic form. people don’t know there's a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization because the sacred tradition, even among the greatest scholars, remain very mysterious and almost impossible to get an idea of. I.e the writings of Empedocles, Parmenides etc.
Nigga, is that the map of Denmark?
We have libraries if non-jewish ancient texts
I'd suck the cock of poetic form
I'm working on it.
What in the ever loving fuck are you queers talking about?
Chaldean Oracles
No one but you and your fellow schizophrenics knows what that is
It's the conclusive divinely inspired poem of the Ancient Greek world, creating a holy doctrinal triad, following the Poems of Orpheus and Plato's prophetic dialogues (Timaeus supremely).
Who said/wrote this?
This
Finding your sacred origins
Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi traced the origins of Sufism not to the prophet Mohammed but to Pythagoras and Empedocles.
They are watching and plotting for every opportunity to strike, to keep the veil of ignorance over us. Spread the word, but beware what it is you say to who they are that listen. Most cannot hear it, but there are some, slithering types, who listen for the soul purpose of spreading doubt, delay and division among us. Speak the truth, instruct lightly, but keep your sources anonymous. They will not take what they cannot find.
And what the fuck are sacred origins?
I’m guessing you are a fan of Algis Uzydan(sp)?
>sacred origins
blahblahblah say Atlantis so I can be right that you're a pseud and leave the thread already
>you think you're Gandalf but really
>but really
Atlantis
Greek philosophy originated in Egypt. The Sphinx predates the Old Dynasties.
They have no idea about western history beyond hot topics for victimization.
>you think you're shitposting but really
>People do know there's a sacred tradition of the origins of western civilization.
Celtic Pagans, Christians or Greek/Roman pantheon? People know its just not unique and Christianity has roots in Judaism/Zoroastrianism and connects back to Hinduism in pre-written history. Modern European history post enlightenment is a syncretic tradition borrowing from the whole world.
Is it enough to just to say we don't know it? What IS it? What would happen to us if we found it?
What a nice synchronicity, I just finished a book by Peter Kingsley and read this interview by him. To those in this thread not in the know, Peter Kingsley is a modern British scholar who writes about mysticism in the Presocratic philosophers such as Parmenides and Empedocles. He also goes over the importance of the role of things like esotericism, initiation, the teacher-disciple relationship, and consciously using trance states/meditation, in the beginnings of Western philosophy, and argues (broadly speaking) that our modern limited “rationalism” has estranged us from much that is valuable in these origins.