Enough of just having Catholicism threads. How many of you have actually read and engaged with The Book of Mormon...

Enough of just having Catholicism threads. How many of you have actually read and engaged with The Book of Mormon? The prose is a little clunky, but it's still a sophisticated text. It's also very edifying. Highly recommend—even if you think Joseph Smith, and not various prophets in pre-Columbian America, was its author.

Harold Bloom, though he's not a fan of modern-day Mormonism, has called Smith a religious genius (a view which moves past the simplistic prophet/charlatan dichotomy). That might count for something.

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Mormons are deranged subhuman cultists
Kill on sight

You're probably thinking of the fundamentalist offshoots. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a very positive institution, and the practices and values of mainstream Mormonism promote balanced, healthy, virtuous living. You should try to be more open-minded.

I read it about 4 times cover to cover as a mormon missionary many years ago. I have long since left the church so don't read it anymore.
I would be interested in going back over it.

Good religion, shitty book. It just sort of repeats themes and ideas from the Bible with no real substance or depth.
Most of the good stuff from Mormonism comes from JS's later writings. D&C establishes the rules for one of the most effective modern religions. PoGP is weird but it has some interesting interpretations of biblical events. The whole spirit world and degrees of glory stuff is all pretty neat too.

Is there any problem with the editions or translations of the Book of Mormon?

I'm still an active member, but I didn't deserve a mission. I'm currently on my third reading.

I disagree with your assessment of the Book of Mormon, but you're right. D&C and the PoGP are a bit more interesting. The PoGP is where you find the cosmological stuff, and the OT expansions are cool. And D&C is interesting because it's the most explicitly prophetic book - a series of communications to JS rather than a dubious historical record.

The Book of Mormon translation is literally perfect because God himself did it.
Not counting the thousands of revisions and redactions the Mormon church have made to the it over the years of course.

There's only one edition/translation of the BoM if you buy the version that the LDS Church puts out.

Nope. Mormons don't believe this. JS translated it by the power of God, and he dictated it to a scribe. God himself didn't do it. But keeping being critical while remaining uninformed about basic things.

Your founding fathers were murderers and child rapists profiting off naive followers
LDS is an organization built around milking sheep for cash
Get a credible religion

they are the greatest people I’ve ever met. Also seem thegappiest, even if there are black sheep but every group has them and mormons have few and don’t degenerately celebrate them

Don't they have the same cosmological views as the Jains?

They arent happy. They are constantly being pushed to this creepy unhealthy state of perfectionism. They are chad and stacey in the most superficial of ways. There is nothing genuine or original about them. I live in Provo, Utah. I would know.

I had two American mormon girls approach me last week. I gave them my number and I'm honestly tempted to meet them, and maybe try and get a fuck out of it. I'm decent looking and they were complimenting my muscles (as I was coming home from the gym when we spoke).

sounds wonderful lad

No one cares cunt, go back to /fit/ and stay on it. Leave this place to the people with brains

Then youre just a dipshit normie too. They don’t have any sense of culture and they really aren’t that right-wing like you might think they are if you’re a shithead from that board.

Is there an epub of this book?

Just Google it. The have free versions of it for every platform on the church website.

>they really aren’t that right-wing
>perpetually red state
>stong anti-gay stance
>sex before marriage is forbidden
>drug use forbidden, even drinking, smoking and coffee
>inter-racial marriage is discouraged
>church actively campaigns against left-wing policies
I could really go on with list. What are you saying?

They think the U.S. Constitution is a divine document and are lapdogs for Zionism and international finance

>generalizations and stereotypes are 100% true all the time across every group, /pol/ is always right!!1

Only the boomers take these stances. Everyone in the younger generations is against racism. I am at the heart of the Mormon capital I have seen enough and met enough mormon college students here. Many of them secretly hate the churchs origins and all that stuff. They all voted 3rd party in 2016. Look at the election map. They are pushing to end the honor code at BYU and pushed for chuch to be cut down from 3 hours. The boomers will always vote red just because.

If they're real mormon, as in go to church and all that, they'll never fuck you. Not unless you marry them in their mormon temple. And once they find out you don't like their church and have casual sex they'll drop your ass so fast.

Mormons do seem to read more than most other Christian sects but I find their understanding of the Bible to be rather poor and I didn't find the Book of Mormon to be impressive in any way.

Interesting thread.
As important as the Book of Mormon is I find myself gravitating more towards D and C and the Pearl of Great Price more as I grow older.
I think part of it is because God prepared the most fundamental teachings for the BoM to serve as a foundation for later revelations, which I find more engaging.
Regardless theres a lot of stuff in it that is pretty interesting
>true nature of the Atonement as a means to empathize with humanity as well as atone for sins
>new perspective of the fall as an answer to the problem of evil
>necessity of atonement to reconcile grace and justice
>reconciliation of divine will and free will
>nature of the holy ghost and personal revelation
>dispensationism and Gods pattern for saving those who dont recieve understanding of him

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all of that stuff sounds interesting. is there a good youtube video or anything that you know of that outlines any of these specific things you pointed out?

Mormonism is interesting insofar as they have interesting answers to some hard theological questions that other branches of Christianity had to "its a mystery" their way out of because they were forced to answer those questions with a less modern understanding of the world and now they are stuck with them. It is a shame really, because I consider Smith to be a fraudulent prophet but a worthwhile theologian.

Burn at the stake*

That's just Utah Mormons.

I don't even know how to respond. Mormons were literally persecuted and driven from place to place. People like you can't see reason.

A lot of Mormons are probably Zionist shills, I'll admit, and there are plenty who believe that the Constitution was divinely inspired. But you're making sweeping generalizations. I'm a Mormon and I'm not enthusiastic about the modern nation-state of Israel. I also don't care about international finance -- don't really know where that specific charge comes from. As for the Constitution, I don't know... It may be "divine" insofar as it reflects certain universal values or lays the groundwork for a free and moral society. Hard to say.

Mormons probably don't focus on the Bible enough, but that's because we're not beholden to it in the same way that other Christians are.

Yeah, the interpretation of the Fall that the BoM puts forward is extremely beneficial and insightful. It offers a solution to the Problem of Evil while also providing a very optimistic vision of creation and human potential.

>youtube.com/watch?v=f7mqbzAXzRc

Mandatory Michael Pierce shilling.

Now that is the definition of a fake religion

>being this repulsed by muscles
yikes, reddit is another way faggot

Mormons are absolutely fascinating. It's a whole culture and lifestyle artificially made from the ground up, and a successful one at that. You could even say that they are a positive example of totalitarianism. I have the feeling that three hundred years from now Mormonism will be the most populous and powerful division of Christianity

I mean, it's really not. You could at least try to come up with a more substantive critique. You probably don't know anything about it.

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How true is this video then?

I'm not sure what you mean by "artificially made." I suppose you mean that JS was a charlatan and that his religious visions didn't actually happen?

>Mormons are deranged heretics
>Burn at the stake
FTFY. Cultist is a meme word.

.>healthy, virtuous living
Studies on obesity and religious practice (including a BYU study) have shown that Utah members of the LDS Church are 34% more likely to be overweight than members of other religions. Utah county is also experiencing an opioid epidimic.

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Exactly. It's all a "Noble lie"

lol you're so fucking dumb.

this

>U.S. Constitution is a divine document
You have to realize that the mormon's resent the federal government. After being kicked out of Illinois, they migrated west to Utah in order to found a new holy land. They would have seceded if the feds would have allowed it.

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Idk how you survive man. Provo is hell on earth

I was simply stating what Mormons actually believe about the BoM translation process. Saying that "God himself wrote it" is inaccurate. The BoM is not regarded the same way Muslims regard the Quran, though it is considered more correct or reliable than the Bible, since the latter has passed through so many different translations and manuscripts were corrupted, etc. I fail to see how that clarification is "fucking dumb."

It's true that Mormons aren't concerned about the sin of gluttony when they perhaps should be. But I don't think one study on obesity invalidates the fact that Mormons lead fairly well-balanced, family-centered lives and contribute to charity, humanitarian efforts, etc. A lot of Utah Mormons are kind of fucked up, though. I'll grant that.

I'm 100k words into my commentary on the Book of Mormon (up to Mosiah 20). Your take is 100% correct. If you or anyone has any questions fire away.
Those are missionaries, i.e. they're on an 18-month vow of singleness, i.e. they probably won't do anything but preach to you. Probably.
See, I'm the other way around, I used to think the additional revelations had the good stuff, but now I keep going back to the Book of Mormon for the deeper insights. Note, for example, that Nephi's journey from Jerusalem --> wilderness --> Bountiful --> trial --> promised land is exactly the endowment narrative of garden --> telestial --> terrestrial --> trial --> celestial.
t. incels who blame the religious environment for their situation

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Seventh day Adventists are actually what people think Mormons are

>t. incels who blame the religious environment for their situation
Lmao because you must literally be a virgin if you don't want to live in Provo? Idk why anyone wouldn't want to live in such a vibrant city full of art and culture, they obviously must be bitter incels.