How many memes have you read
How many memes have you read
I tried reading some of these before, and it felt like I was reading a bunch of nonsense. I don't think anyone seriously enjoys any of this crap. It's literature that is created to be "literature," as an objet d'art.
I've only read The Public Burning. It's good. I was unaware it had acquired "meme" status though.
That's because you're a dumb dumb
none from the pic
That's the normal response. There's an easily discernible difference between this sort of "book" and the majority of literature that exists. He who cares not for appearances understands.
What's your point? That meme books like Ulysses and Gravity's rainbow are hard?
Let's be honest, if this board wasn't majority-American, no one would feel the need to read the majority of Americans, let alone (near) contemporary ones.
Almost finished The Recognitions and think it's great. Will I enjoy the meme trilogy? And how does JR compare?
>tfw got conned into buying gravity rainbow. What a gargantuan load of rabble
No, I'm not him but since you didn't catch his meaning, I shall explain.
Literature can often be complex and seem obscure, let's take for example Dante's Divine Comedy, in which Dante manages to demonstrate not only his veneration for the Ancients that spawned his craft but shows where his morality and political dispositions lie; detailing cryptic gruesome satire that demands you to be at least partially away of the conflicts in Florence in his day, etc. Yet the challenge of understanding that is worth it for the enjoyment of the text, and for the larger picture, as in the writers that were subsequently influenced.
But modern meme works often provide their own footnotes and satirise or philosophise what no one asked them to, or cares about. It has no real lasting appeal, written in a usually academic echo chamber, in a time where writers do not have the same authoritative sway they had in times past.
Lit for lit's sake, form but not essence.
Lit for lit's sake, form but not essence.
I don't get how that's a problem
The "problem" is what I described in the paragraphs above that line.
It's not a problem as you have phrased it, but you initially wanted the distinctions between that and meme lit.
There's nothing wrong with a gallery full of imitations of renaissance art, you might even like some more than the originals, but that doesn't mean they were developed under the same context and express the same thing.
dude, where's liveblog?" you can still get signed copies!
>modern meme works often provide their own footnotes and satirise or philosophise what no one asked them to, or cares about. It has no real lasting appeal, written in a usually academic echo chamber, in a time where writers do not have the same authoritative sway they had in times past.
dont you think this new context perhaps opens up new avenues of textual possibility? could it be that some of the works you are dismissing are actually exploring these new possibilities and its going over your head?
I haven't read a single book in that image (though I've read Mason & Dixon)
Don't worry about that, I haven't read a single book in my life yet I still post here all day and give recommendations to people.
lol faggot
Ulysses is amazing, ignore all the fags who say that you need to know about tons of obscure shit, if you've read Hamlet and the Odyssey as well as Dubliners and Portrait, and you know who Parnell is (which you will after reading Portrait) then you'll know enough. Obviously there's more but even when you don't understand something it's still tons of fun to read.
Pynchon seems about the same with what I've heard about just 'enjoying the ride', but I haven't read him.
Don't know about IJ
Of the ones pictured everything but the Coover, Powers, Mano, and Vollman
>taking meme books seriously.
>Yea Forums is not like /r/books/.
Alright. This board is garbage and so are you.
JR is like the party scenes in Recog only twice as cynical and stretched out for an entire book. It's glorious stuffs
Also this is ridiculous. GR is gorgeous and more anti-intellectual than some sort of hypertextual panderfest. Are a handful of Rilke references really too obscure for you?
>Alexander Theroux
>His first novel, Three Wogs, was written during a stay in London
it's a wonder that book is not better known really
Only a Confederacy of Dunces, which was amusing.
Wew
I stayed away from “meme lit” and then I tried reading it and I thought it was fucking great.
Ulysses took me two tries and the second time it clicked and was awesome.
Gravity’s Rainbow was super cool and hilarious.
Recognitions, ditto.
The Tunnel was hit and miss but I want to read it again.
Giles Goat Boy was weird fun.
Infinite Jest felt like watered-down Pynchon but I enjoyed it.
I wish this “meme book” bullshit would die already. It’s stopping people from reading cool books.
That's the point
This board memed me into reading American Psycho, and Simulacra and Simulation if that counts
Finally finished Infinite Jest, it was worth it. Finna fuck me some art hoes now
>200 pages of infinite jest
>house of leaves
>2 pages of gravity's rainbow
>3 pages of Finnegan wake
>1Q84
dont steal my bitch pls im not done with it yet
i got memed into reading gauer's novel explosives
it was alright
I just read all of houellebecq starting last sunday.