>I should probably add that to the image. The direct link in the image won't help anyone. A qr-code of the link on the other hand might.
Jason Rivera
>reading modern fantasy W E W
Dylan Walker
Was The Player of Games meant to be written like a propaganda piece for a fictional superpower? Spoilers btw. It starts off interesting presenting qualities and flaws of both the Culture and the Empire, and then out of nowhere the Empire conveniently just turn out to be cartoonishly evil baby rapists. Really peaks with the game where our hero is talking about his play style representing the Culture with how he passively spreads across the board while his opponents are always the first to attack when in reality it's blatantly false and they're destabilizing and destroying an empire they don't like who have zero means to attack them in the first place with their hundred times less advanced weapons. They even have a foreign mercenary, all that was missing was showing bribed local traitors. The writing is alright but I haven't read any other Culture books so I'm not sure if it's intentionally on the nose by having the meta plot of the laziest hollywood movie justifying their latest invasion. Especially since the narrator is a military droid who says he made shit he didn't witness up.
Aaron Thompson
How does the Conan movie compare to the book?
Dylan Scott
YA is not lit
Nolan King
The point would be reading something from new authors. Most here have had their fill of older authors.
I was actually thinking about sci-fi. As long as the book is not on io9 top ten list or some such site, you should be fine.
>Most here have had their fill of older authors I see... I guess they'll have to vote for other books then. Assuming these people exist.
Justin Lewis
Maybe more people would vote if there was something more interesting to read?
Easton Morales
>see user at the end of last thread mention some book >look it up >glance at what other other work the author's done >see pic related and this glorious blurb "Control dinosaurs. Tame women. Rule the world.
Victor Shelby ends each day wondering when his life is going to get better. His parents are dead, he struggles to pay rent, and his boss at the animal control shelter has him cleaning cages instead of working in the field. His dream of helping animals seems destined to end in a mop bucket.
Then Victor is abducted by aliens and deposited on a prehistoric world filled with hungry dinosaurs and beautiful alien women.
He doesn’t know why he is here or what his purpose is, but he finds himself fighting for survival. Most men would have been lizard kibble in a few moments, but Victor’s natural ability to empathize with animals has grown stronger, and he finds himself able to control the most docile of the terrible lizards.
Victor will have to use his taming powers to provide food, water, and shelter for the three women that he has sworn to protect. Success means they get to live another day, failure means a horrible death in the jaws of Earth’s most deadly predators.
Disclaimer: This book has ravaging dinosaurs, a lot of cursing, extreme violence, and a harem of exotic alien women. The novel is not meant for people under the age of 18." Holy Jesus. Destroyer-user, how pulpy is Destroyer? It can't be this silly, r-right?
Then suggest titles (within the guidelines) next time voting comes around? We only had a mandated author this month because he had just passed.
Brody Sullivan
I like the heels. They really bring that cover together.
I'll do that.
James Brown
>reading anything from that hack scott earle
Austin Russell
>muh deconstruction >muh subversion of tropes >muh political allegory >muh social justice >muh grimdark >muh urban fantasy When did you realize that the fantasy genre is dead?
I think up until the early 90s you can still find some good fantasy,but it pretty much died in the 2000s,same with scifi.
Luke Martin
Why is it dead? Explain...
Camden Miller
>old good >new bad
Christian Price
Lorefags
Daniel Lee
I just can't get into Sanderson. He's so generic and his characters are insufferable.
Scalzi is one of the worst writers I've ever read. Same with Rothfuss. Absolute trash.
William Nelson
Anyone have any primarily fantasy books (can be science fiction too, whatever, but I prefer fantasy purely for the metaphysics of a fantasy world and character positions) that is mostly philosophical / rambly / politics-y? And actually good too, but whatever, what's good for you might not be good for another. The main thing is to be a slow burn, with LOTS of dialogue and in-world social strife.
>What book disappointed you the most? Name of the Wind. I tried to read it about five years ago after hearing good things about it. I didn't get far because the MC is insufferable and nothing else about it was enjoyable. A Princess of Mars I had some hope for being enjoyable pulp like Conan, but it's LN tier bad.
On the plus side I'm about half way through Jonathan Strange and it's excellent.
Stand on Zanzibar,and most John Brunner works are kinda like that
Eli Hill
How would you guys like to read a mafia-style story set in a Fantasy world?
Logan Price
Imagine getting banned from amazon for botting your own product, then whining about it non-stop and how the readers dont appreciate the hard work you do.
Jaxon Thompson
I'm reading Momo currently. I shall get to it soon.
Levi Bennett
capone biography was fun
Jaxson Gonzalez
wheres the guy from his facebook group? are there any updates? last i heard his lawyers are still negotiating with amazon.
Parker Garcia
Name one fantasy book that isn't either essentially a ghost or a war story
Brandon Reyes
Typically luddite behavior.
Jacob Clark
The long price quartet and... I will hit you 2morrow when I have access to my pcs library.
Parker Lopez
>Dimber! I'm fly you see, and that's the Lily. >Helps if you have of got gelt, and that'dd be abram. WTF?
Jordan Wright
Tigana? I personally wasn't into it, but it sounds like what you're looking for.
There's also Peace, which I've recently started reading, though it (seems to be, so far) smaller scale without much in the way of politics. It's also non-linear in the extreme, even for Wolfe, which might be a positive or negative for you.
Nolan Cox
Lord of the Rings
Xavier Brooks
You surely Jest.
Eli Ross
Harry Potter, Name of the Wind, the Lies of Locke Lamora, and Shadow of the Torturer.
Julian Lopez
I would hardly call the Fellowship of the Ring “essentially a war story”.
Juan Morgan
Hello friends,
I'm looking for some fantasy that has incredible atmosphere and mood while not getting too deep into the technicalities of its worldbuilding or magic system or whatever the fuck. An ideal example of what I'm looking for is The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath, but most other weird fiction doesnt quite cut it and is too preoccupied with horror or character. The house on the Borderland is a good example too. Basically a book that is all about atmosphere and world immersion without getting waylaid by self-indulgent complex explanations of how well thought out it's own universe is
Mason Lopez
Need books where size queens get stuffed. I want to read when it's coming out there is like an audible sound.
Austin Mitchell
playing elder scrolls is more fun than reading tolkien though
Chase Reed
Prince of Nothing
Carson Ross
The grimderp nihilism and subversion, modern writers focusing too much on world-building because that's easier than actually writing an original story, books becoming even MORE political, the near-death of originality in general.
Eli Cook
You won't find a lot of fantasy like that, frankly. The only thing I can think of are Chesterton novels (mostly speculative fiction, though it dabbles with the fantastic) and Flatland, but the latter is just slightly amusing.
Isaac Carter
Oh, I forgot: Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell. I haven't read it yet, but since it takes place during the Napoleonic Wars and considering what I heard about it, I expect it to have quite a bit of politics and social strife, as they deal with the resurgence of magic in England.
Brayden Davis
I just downloaded 25 newly released self published books and will read all, and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
Jacob Hill
but that's because of the big tiddie anime goth gf mods
Benjamin Long
Where is the shit Tolkien consumed to feed the rest. Also you have to have divergent streams a few shits down. Fantasy wasn't following a singular path, it split a few times drawing inspiration from different sources. Also to say everything came from Tolkien dunsany and Howard just shows you are a readlet and brainlet.
As a matter of fact, this entire picture makes me feel you will post a renamed pic talking a out Malazan and onions
Landon James
>Holy Jesus. Destroyer-user, how pulpy is Destroyer? It can't be this silly, r-right? It's less goofy, for sure.
Just wanna say that I hate the ending. It was obvious for a while that Kaiyer and Iolarathe are the dead gods but did it really have to phrase it as her existence ending? Felt like a punch in the gut. I don't care about Jessmei and Nadea, I want a family reunion. Also shouldn't have killed off Isslata, you faggot author.
Gavin Davis
Already read, it's where I developed the fetish.
Andrew Perez
How brave
Robert Sullivan
Careful on that edge.
Jacob Evans
Thoughts on Conan?
Mason Perry
Not everything came from them, but these are the three most (badly) imitated ones, which is true. Writers influenced by Mervyn Peake or by the 80-90s urban fantasy (like Crowley and Lint) are at least more creative and don't just rehash their influences works.
You serious? You could easily stay all day listing books. That was a dumb remark.
Xavier Turner
>reading peace >get fed up with Mr. Pringles bullshit and go looking for spoilers >nobody knows what the fuck is going on I should have expected this
Lincoln Powell
Is there a sci fi version of the Odyssey or the Illiad like there is of the Canterbury Tales in the form of Hyperion
I'm almost certain I've read one, but I can't remember the title...
Hudson Powell
Powerful
Caleb Rivera
How can i get as manly as that guy?
Connor Edwards
Reading genre fiction
Ryder Morales
There is a certain popular book here that is heavily influenced/inspired But, you mean like straight up re-telling, right?
Levi Sullivan
2024 a Cyberpunk Illiad.
Sebastian Jackson
By reading David Gemmell
David Powell
This is a joke post, right? Dan Simmons himself the Hyperion guy, brainlet wrote an SF Iliad. It's called Ilium.
Mason Gray
Read Bakker
Noah Foster
Bakker tells me I should let a charismatic older man seduce me into killing my father to turn me into the manliest psychopath of all.
Adam Robinson
But if I follow bakker's route, I will have to become a gay faggot that makes wombs of men's asses.
Lincoln Baker
work out, eat lots of red meat and egg and milk products but little to no plants that have fibres fruits are fine, masturbate only when your balls are about to burst. read only novels with manly men doing manly things.
>kill your joints, force gout on yourself, force your biological systems into a state of hormonal panic. shelter yourself
Julian Cook
Hey, thats just the way it goes in the current year.
Luis Baker
>believing the jew propaganda about meat diets being bad user pls.
Ryder Perez
>everything I don't like is jew propaganda Can you go back to /pol/ if you're not gonna treat your brainworms
Carter Ramirez
>strawmaning /pol/
Juan James
>Was The Player of Games meant to be written like a propaganda piece for a fictional superpower? I mean, Banks tries to be nuanced but it's pretty obvious where his heart is regarding the Culture.
Lincoln Campbell
The problem isn't those things you listed but the fact that "modern" "fantasy" keeps beating the same dead horses, and _executing it poorly_. NGE did all of those things for previous mecha anime, and it was good.
Basically fantasy hasn't been able to move on from ASOIAF, which a) wasn't that good and b) WAS TWENTY YEARS AGO.
Jason Bennett
>A Princess of Mars I had some hope for being enjoyable pulp like Conan, but it's LN tier bad. I like the John Carter stories, but it really takes an antiquarian mindset to enjoy them. If you aren't actively engaged by being able to see how influential everything is, there's no much else there aside from a few writers' craft tricks.
>He turned is attention to the larger mirror in the wall, and ejaculated in amazement. Peering over his shoulder, Conan grunted. Howard really had a way with words
Andrew Gomez
I feel like you guys change your monthly reading like every few days instead of every month
Adam Collins
Everything new is shit. Now that Gene "Pringles" Wolfe is gone there are no more good authors alive.
Yes, science fiction might survive due to the eastern bugmen however.
Nolan Robinson
There's gotta be some good new-ish fantasy out there What do you, yes you, consider good, anyway? If you're one of the people who think's fantasy's dead, why did it die? What's modern stuff missing that older stuff had?
David Williams
The Powder Mage series and the Red Queen series are both pretty good entries into the genre, released pretty recently. As for why the genre is on the decline, i'd place the blame squarely on activist publishers gatekeeping anyone who doesn't either toe a politically correct line, or go maximum edgy. Everything nowadays is either squeaky clean or 110% degenerate with very few authors who don't want to be either getting published. Also the grey and grey morality meme just makes everything awful.
Jaxon Myers
Hello, what does sffg think of Wheel of Time and the trilogies written by Trudi Canavan?
Did Sanderson do the series justice? Was there anything to ruin?
Is Canavan a good author, or is this just a woman's self insert and narrow minded critique of reality?
Jackson Ramirez
>What's modern stuff missing that older stuff had? Heart. Soul. Originality. Focus on character and story first and foremost. Not using stories as an excuse to soapbox politics. Not reveling in nihilism and edginess. Also as this user correctly points out publishers are always hugely to blame.
Tyler Reed
>Canavan I read the High Lord trilogy (or whatever it's name was) when I was an impressionable youth, and I enjoyed it at the time went back to it for some nostalgia recently and found myself really disappointed by younger-me's taste >characters pretty one-note >stereotypical bullying in the school book because you poor we rich haha >romance in the third book fucks up the MC's brains I would like to know more about the setting's history and laws and stuff, but that isn't worth it I do like academy stories, though, so that was the one thing it taught me so yes, b) self insert, narrow
>WoT by the time Sanderson got to it there wasn't anything left to ruin imo
Elijah Watson
Are we entering a new age of Ice and Fire ripoffs after the success of GOT mirroring all the Tolkien knock offs like Shanara in the 80s?
Lincoln Ramirez
>The 1143-year-long war had been begun on false pretenses and only continued because the two races were unable to communicate. >Once they could talk, the first question was "Why did you start this thing?" and the answer was "Me?"
lol
Jacob Ortiz
>When are you guys going to star reading something new? Whenever you nominate something new.
Just as the condition of this month was ‘Gene Wolfe only,’ the theme of next month should be ‘published after 2010.’
Daniel Bell
>Are we entering a new age Did you miss the last 10 years in fantasy? Where did you think the grimderp fad came from? Not a bad idea actually. I'd rather it was post 2000 books though.
Isaiah Brown
>What book disappointed you the most? Anything by Heinlein
Liam Howard
Anyone have a chart or something of fantasy novels that have interesting settings, e.g. not based on medieval Europe?
You could try the Black Company. The first books start in medieval Europe but it moves on fairly quickly to not India.
Nathaniel Jackson
You know I actually looked it up to see what the setting was like, and what do you know, medieval Europe.
Anthony Wilson
wrong
Easton Sanders
>If you're one of the people who think's fantasy's dead, why did it die? What's modern stuff missing that older stuff had? It died because white people have declined both in number and of quality, it died because newer generations have grown up on awful video games that have stories that are derivatives of derivatives. It died because the market has become dumber and corporate marxist. It died because people are less connected to the real world than ever and spend too much time on the Internet and on their phones.
To have good fantasy you basically need an intelligent and experienced white man and an industry and publishing market that is willing to sell his works. And as I already said both the supply of good writers is VERY low these days and the market wouldn't want one even if there was one.
Liam Hernandez
>tfw nothing you write will ever be nearly as profitable or reach a wide an audience as this drek- I mean, this amazing series that we all love
Charles Cruz
I've never understood why this series is considered to be the first proper "grimdark" work comparing it to modern edgefests that get called grimdark, it's fairly chill and far less retarded than that >Murgen's PoV haunts me, dear god was that a slog
James Williams
Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton
Levi Sanchez
I guess because it’s more less the grandfather of them all. While it’s not some modern edgefest it was the first to really start taking it in that direction. That being said I don’t think it hurt the books at all and a little grimdark is fine, most books now just take it to extremes.
>Not liking Murgen’s PoV Really? I actually liked it. I was surprised how much I liked Sleepy’s book though.
Jacob Davis
BotNS
Charles White
I think next month will be a normal month, but after that we can vote about doing another theme month.
Jayden Martinez
never read any Dragonlance, and am thinking of filling in this hole is it good if you've read a lot of fantasy?
I'm thinking about reading the Wheel of Time and am already about 100 pages into The Eye of the World. What am I in for?
Chase Thomas
The greatest fantasy novel ever written.
Asher Wilson
>there's a bunch of dudes just beating and torturing a loli for the lols in the first book >designated edgelord goes to kill all of them to save her. It's pretty dark desu, they kill around like it's nobody's business and the author does imply they do a lot of bad things, but you have to remember it's a chronicle. It doesn't read like a book, you can't be descriptive in one, but it's damn grim.
Dominic Diaz
How's Le Guins Earthsea series? Tempted to get the bix illustrated edition but it says young adult? How juvenile is it?
Dylan Robinson
it's fantastic. doesn't have very complex setting or themes, so i guess you can consider it juvenile if you want but still very worth reading if you like engaging fantasy. also they are very short books anyway
Ethan Nelson
They are the sort of books which are enjoyable both to adults and younger people
Aiden Bennett
Interesting how many people seem to loathe Grimdark.
We loathe grimderp that reads like Coldsteel the Hedgehog.
Brandon Diaz
>You all yearn for the romance of classic fantasy. absolutely. edgy fantasy is mainstream nowadays though and the market is flooded with it. makes it harder to find suitable new shit. notice how theres only ever older books recommended here. the only people that read new books seem to be the litrpg and harem fags. im not that desperate yet.
Landon Smith
What's your excuse for not reading this great series about two brothers? It concerns sad boi and chad boi, born with the ability to create/manipulate shadow (sad) and light (chad), both given five hundred years of life and youth, and cursed by a being afraid of their combined might to want to brutally murder each other. The curse, triggered by proximity/power use, makes them not give a damn about anything else when active, to the point that they'd cut through an orphanage if it meant getting in stabbing range faster. All they want to really do is live a quiet life playing music and rule as a just king, respectively, but the curse is a sort of One Ring dealio, and is interested in warping their personalities to get them to kill each other. I love the series, though a lot of people, at least on G**dreads get put off by the first book, which is slow-paced compared to later entries.
>Red Queen series Don't fall for this meme. That series was shit. This user wouldn't know a good book if it spread it's pussy pages and asked for a fuck.
Nicholas Gomez
i'm sorry.. but I can't resist your bait but..
Colton Brooks
Give me something with either a gay mc, or the mc displays no interest in women through out the novel and no women are interested in him. I know finding good novels with the former is basically impossible, but at least a man can dream.
Leo Sanchez
>notice how theres only ever older books recommended here. That is because yall fucking dinos scream and sperg out anytime something new is mentioned. We (the people that actually read) just ignore yall asses and let you fool newfags into reading dreck.
sufficiently advanced magic by andrew rowe. I think the mc is sort of gay in the first book and the author goes full SJW in the second even having some character with weird pronouns. He gets blasted for his faggotry in the amazon reviews but the books are decent. I'm not sure if this is litrpg because it's not labeled as one and I've never read legit litrpg but a lot of the similar recommended are litrpg.
Dylan Diaz
Hyperion Or some Alastair Reynolds books narrated by John Lee
From what I've read there's many characters like that in the Malazan Book of the Fallen. There seem to be imprisoned immortal tyrants or just generic powerful deathless ancients hidden under every other bush and they're all tripping over each other vying for power. Not to mention all of the meddling upstarts from the younger races.
Jeremiah Johnson
will George finally finish his stupid books when the series is over
Logan King
haha no
Adam Walker
According to Barristan Selmy the books are written
Brayden Edwards
I love Baccano!
Jason Hall
Nightrunner Series by Lynn Flewelling Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
Jaxon Hernandez
ALPHA! RITA'S ESCAPED! RECRUIT A TEAM OF TEENAGERS WITH ATTITUDE!
How was your mothers day /sffg/? I'm almost done with the calderon trilogy and it's probably only a matter of pages before I hit the inevitable revelation that Tavi's mom was actually Isanna and not her sister.
Also I cooked for my mom and made her hangar steak with chimichurri sauce and coconut rice.
Gavin Hill
In honor of mother's day: recommend me some sffg that prominently features mother-son love. You know what I mean.
Hudson Lopez
I saw that once an promptly ignored it when I realized with was basically a YA novel with a little edge thrown in to trick high schoolers into thinking it wasn't.
Oliver Bennett
> basically a YA novel .. with a little edge It's funny how people who obviously haven't read a book seem to think they can review it and not look like idiots.
Aaron Peterson
the virgin song of ice and fire and the chad ________
Angel Parker
iliad
Joseph Morris
To be fair though, that’s not that out of line what actual ancient armies use to do. I know their society is suppose to be a more medieval equivalent then something like the ancient Roman’s, but they’re also living in a world ruled by evil undead wizards, so I think we can make some allowances.
Juan Howard
Sword of Truth
Jackson Barnes
Why did Sword of Truth disappoint you?
Aaron Watson
Throne of Glass
Gabriel Russell
Non-wincest: Dune
Mason Hall
>Non-wincest: Dune whats the point without the wincest?
Adam King
I am an imaginationlet and I can never picture anything this detailed or interesting when I read. It makes me sad.
Grayson Hill
I have a pretty good notion of how you feel about ASOIAF (which I will only start reading once it gets an ending, so basically never) but what about the other things GRRM has written? Short stories and such? Anything good?
>[fantasy book] was basically a YA novel with elf words and edge thrown in to trick genre readers into thinking it's good
Colton Ross
The Once and Future King, or Wizard at Earthsea?
Aaron Barnes
Children of Dune is just so boring.
Lincoln Jones
>Why are forgotten yet also favored sons of a widowed lord who master forbidden and ancient cultivation methods the master race protagonists? jesus christ that was a train wreck of a sentence to read what book?
Luke Jones
I have never read Wizard of Earthsea, but I am reading The Once and Future King and think it is quite good.
Jaxon Ramirez
>>Why are forgotten yet also favored sons of a widowed lord who master forbidden and ancient cultivation methods the master race protagonists?
i wanna get into wuxia, please tell me what to read
Benjamin Lee
Wizard of Earthsea. I personally couldn't get past the beginning of The Once and Future King, felt like something was off/missing. Earthsea on the other hand is great.
Dominic Davis
Should one read all of the Earthsea books or stop after the original trilogy? I've heard bad things about the later ones.
Nicholas James
None of them is bad bad, just not as good.
Samuel Williams
>What's your excuse for not reading this great series about two brothers? Wurts' prose is horrific. Story seemed interesting enough but I dropped it halfway through the first book because it was like reading an instruction manual rather than a novel.
With writing like that, it's no surprise she's broke and begging for charity on leddit.
Nicholas Russell
I might be wrong but I think the only wuxia I've seen recommended here is the cradle series by will wight. Or maybe that's xianxia I don't know the difference just something to do with asian power fantasy.
Nicholas Torres
Warlock of the magus world, spirit vessel, reverend insanity, dungeon defense.
It doesn't seem to be gay enough, it moves at a gelatinous pace and subsequent books seem to maintain status quo.
Aaron Gray
Jonathan Strange is an excellent novel (more like a tome) with exactly zero politics and zero social strife in the worldbuilding. It's centred quite firmly on the upper classes so it gets mentioned once or twice that the lower classes are being a pain, but the main focus is on the magical historical realism so that barely gets a mentioned.
Ryder Walker
* a mention
Anthony Bell
Treason by Scott Card The word for world is forest Mythago wood
John Clark
Look for graphic audio.
Gabriel King
cant find any of those on amazon, b ok or tachiyomi
Lucas Gomez
I should come out of retirement and make a readlet macro.
John Morgan
If I want to get into Middle-Earth lore and Tolkien's books, then should I start with the hobbit or lotr?
Chase Cox
What's your opinion on single PoV vs. multi-PoV novels?
Grayson Scott
When you finish dune book 1, stop.
Jason Fisher
I prefer single pov but multi pov in moderation can be used to tell a richer story. So I'm ok with reading multi pov as long as it isn't a stupid amount of povs. Ideally no more than 3-5 povs.
The worst ones are those that start with single pov in the first book and shift to multi pov in the sequels. Fuck you Anthony Ryan you fucking hack.
Jacob Rivera
Either is fine. Hobbit if you want to read according to timeline.
John Carter
Having multiple PoVs can help expand a story sometimes, but most author just change PoV every chapter and it grinds the pacing to a halt and annoys the shit out of me. I want to follow a plot arc to its conclusion, not have it interrupted every other chapter to side track about some other character who is doing something significantly less interesting.
Brayden Torres
The Unattractive vampire Fat vampire Nightlord sunset
Zachary Cox
You go to Wuxia world, and use some url to ebook chrome extension. I think. That's what I see from the webnovels fags.
Dylan Morales
I'd say murderbot is asexual rather than gay >finds the idea of humans banging weird and icky >no genitals anyway
Jace Rogers
Check on wuxiaworld and novelupdates (Goodreads for chinkshit) Also, skip Warlock of the Magus World, only a complete and utter brainlet would recommend that pos. Do check out out Desolate Era and Renegade Immortal. Like the other user already mentioned, use the webtoepub chrome extension to convert webnovels into epubs.
Aaron Green
>trilogy >he doesn't know about the other three books it's 6 books long, user though Cursor's Fury is the best one, imo, and you could stop there if you wanted I find the last two to be a bit silly, but it's alright overall
Nicholas Peterson
>I'd say murderbot is asexual rather than gay He's not interested in pussy, which fully fits th OP's criteria
Daniel Scott
most of the time I prefer a singular PoV, as when there's multiple ones I tend to only really give a fuck about one or two of the plotlines. Even worse, but rare, is where the writing ends up feeling spread a bit thin, but that's usually due to too (tutu) many PoVs. The best multi-PoV stuff I've read is by Guy Gavriel Kay. I have no idea how the snowbeaner fuck does it, but he manages to make all of his PoVs enjoyable.
Ian Sullivan
>calderon trilogy Madeline Calderon trilogy?
Adrian Rivera
>he manages to make all of his PoVs enjoyable. I bet you're the faggot that shilled me the children of earth and sky book.
David Martin
>there are suddenly rumors that the last two ASoIaF books are completed Hell, I buy it. Never ending XBOX HUEG blog posts, the shitty Targ history book, memeing about his own inability to write, what if he's only stalling? Remember Oatbringer? This thread will implode if they're both released in quick succession.
>fell for the Children of Earth and Sky meme Lad, how many times do I need to tell you Tigana is the only book written by GGK that is worth reading?
Xavier Young
Blade Runner. Having read a lot of PKD works before, i thought it was going to be a great ride. Was just meh, although not bad.
Samuel Barnes
I wouldn't be surprised, he has good reason to stall it out until the TV series blows over though, because if he followed the plot he was initially setting up he'd be publicly flogged and crucified for it by the tumblr fanbase of the TV show.
I think it is a faithful adaptation. Episode 5 had Martin's style all over it. Don't read past this point if you care about spoilers. Dany going mad executing Varys and burning King's Landing, Dothraki pillaging KL, Northmen raping women, Unsullied slaughtering those who have already surrendered, all signifying that humans are their worst enemy not whitewalkers. Dany and Jon taking KL together was supposed to be the dream but emotions got in the way and it turned into a nightmare even if they got what they wanted.
Obviously D&D made a complete mess of they got there but the ending has Martin's fingerprints all over it.
Luke Bell
If the show is indeed accurate, the most disappointing thing for me would be that the white walkers were pretty much pointless, get wrecked early, and the story just moves along.
Jaxon Lopez
i'm saying you can have a book 'done' but unreleased for 10 years, without an HBO conspiracy
Aiden James
>cringe edition Perfect opportunity to write about the last piece of garbage i've read. I honestly don't know what I was thinking when I started it. The premise alone rings more alarm bells than should even exist. The author drags the name of Lovecraft and on of his characters in the title completely unabashed. Lovecrafts descendant being a black murican mutt that owns a nerdy bookstore is absolute cringe and her dialogue is sometimes so jarring, I get the feeling I'm reading woke Twitter. Despite that I didn't hate it as much as I thought I would. The author just takes some of the mythos stuff and makes his own thing with it. Seriously considering reading the second novel. Yes it's actually a trilogy.
>Lovecrafts descendant being a black murican mutt Let me guess, the novel goes out of it's way to completely bash Lovecraft like the author was absolutely seething at the mere mention of him, but also steals pretty much all it's shit directly from Lovecraft.
Jayden Cook
Single PoV can be the shittiest thing ever. I much prefer Third-person PoV.
Xavier Cook
Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton
Tyler Lee
Entirely correct. They have the yaas queen directly saying that he wasn't a very good author. I don't know if it is a sign of balls when you shamelessly rip off an author and use his name in the title to gain more sales while slamming his writing, or if it is just delusion.
Luis Jackson
I wish leftists would just leave him alone. If racism is such an unforgivable sin then stop reading him and stop using his ideas.
Hunter Powell
If you claim someone is a shit author, yet pretty much copy his work, what does that make you?
My copy is named blade runner and has Indiana Jones on the cover.
Jayden Morris
>Lovecrafts descendant being a black murican mutt that owns a nerdy bookstore It's like pottery. What would make it even better is if she had an Asian boyfriend /husband and ate a lot of calamari.
Cooper Bell
Oh did you have certain expectations about the white walkers? Too bad son, they just got subverted.
Zachary Cook
any recommendations lads?
Blake Diaz
What are you looking for?
Elijah Richardson
Read the Inda trilogy a while back, about to start this. I hope it's a good read.
the artist has their handle... on a fucking book cover
Nathaniel King
jonathan Carroll/jumanji cartoon cross
Kevin Wood
Why does the vag on the cover look like meg from family guy's voice actress?
Tyler Mitchell
Is it triggering the /ic/ in you? want me to throw in a color wheel?
Brayden Ward
Any good underrated standalone fantasy/scifi books that are not talked about frequently? Can be part of a series if each book is standalone.
I'm more into classic and weird/urban fantasy, but I won't deny some good swords and magic fantasy. Haven't read enough scifi to know what I like, but I'm fond of cyberpunk and speculative science (like Dyson Spheres).
Nolan Lewis
The Sorcerer's Son by Phyllis Eisenstein has a wholesome mother/son relationship,not incest though :(
Cameron Morgan
Brian Aldiss - Helliconia books Stephen Donaldson - Gap Cycle
too much smut on that one, doesn't fit with the rest.
Cooper Carter
>girl parts >tfw no qt android gf When will androids become a thing?
Evan Young
It's my 3.5-4 stars books that I read.
Wall of Text coming: All You Zombies The (sort of) Dark Mage Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book) Fimbulwinter All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries #1) Ancient Ruins (Ancient Dreams #1) (read this only) The Big Over Easy by Jasper Fforde Treason by Orson Scott Card Tunnel in the Sky by Robert A. Heinlein Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven Fevre Dream by George R.R. Martin The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis Legend by David Gemmell The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson Girl Parts by John M. Cusick Rivers of London by Ben Aaronovitch Good Intentions by Elliott Kay (read this one only) Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis The Trysmoon Saga by Brian K. Fuller Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein The Time Machine by H.G. Wells Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers Metro 2033 Out of the Dark by David Weber Johannes Cabal the Necromancer Johannes Cabal by Jonathan L. Howard Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)
These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Mileage may vary. Enjoy
Austin Howard
>too much smut on that one Uhh.. I read some of those and there are like 3-4 smut books there tops. Wtf are you talking about meight? Are you memeing? Pretending to read again to fit in?
Carter Nelson
That's 4 too many. Smut is fine but only in it's own chart. Not mixed in with serious stuff.
Adam Murphy
Shit tastes.
Nicholas Butler
Alright. What do you think of Lolita? Would you consider it smut?
I'm not sure what either of your points are. Are you trying to say books like Fimbulwinter or Good Intentions aren't simply smut?
Oliver Smith
What's the 5star?
Xavier Cruz
Realistically not until a fully sapient AGI/"Strong AI" exists, and AIs are legally declared persons so they can have bodies obviously. Anything before that is just going to be about as braindead as Alexa and will be unable to provide any sort of fulfilling emotional relationship. you'd be one of those weirdos who buy realdolls.
Recently finished Fourth Mansions. Anything else like it?
Kevin Bell
Mirage by Louise Cooper Godstalk by P. C. Hodgell Deverry by Katherine Kerr The Devil is Dead by R.A Lafferty And Chaos Died... by Joana Russ
Oliver Sanchez
read this on a whim, because humans being the dangerous physical apex of the galaxy sounded interesting (I only know basic bitch sci fi like the Culture and Revelation Space, so if there's good shit out there, please point me in that direction) I was not prepared for what I got, though it's my own fault >humanity isn't the apex, it's just that alien thought that their athelete's world records were applied to the average human >about some dinky little colony on a shit world with shit bird aliens >far left talking points >gender is a serious issue, part of humanity's sreason for colonising the stars was to get away from muh oppression >babies are considered gender-neutral (as to not make anyone biased in how they act towards them) and can pick their own gender when older >excerpt to show you the cancer: Mrs Troughton helped Momma get the baby latched on and the howling stopped. "Good heart, clear lungs. Great instincts. I'd say you had nothing to worry about, at all." This last with a glare at Susan. "Is there a name?" "Wila," said Dad. "We'll let hir choose their own pronouns, later." Susan only objected to that inside her head. This was a new world. There would be no gender narratives, either. None of old Earth's pollution. Not even the cultural pollution.
What trend will be next for fantasy? What trend will be next for SciFi?
Ryder Anderson
If I knew that I'd be writing it already to cash in.
Ryan Wood
Hopefully more incest
Jace Young
why do people say fantasy is dead
Asher Thomas
doesnt innovate anymore. its so formulaic and stale that going back to its root is considered a breath of fresh air.
Noah Miller
>try to subvert expectations >cynical retards bash it for muh subverted expectations >try to stick to formula with a few twists >muh fantasy tropes it's a lose lose for fantasy writers
Haven't seen those charts yet, some fine books there. Thanks.
Cooper Gutierrez
People keep reading stuff everyone says it's shit and then complain it's shit.
Granted, most of it is shit, but it's because of people who keep getting shit popular, not because there isn't an alternative. Catherynne M. Valente is a modern author with some quite good stuff to her name and I barely see her mentioned anywhere.
Jackson Gonzalez
Lolita and king queen knave is smut. Lolita is loli smut, and king queen knave is mature woman smut. I fapped to both, being the sick fuck I am.
Why is chucky reaching for a turkey that was in the middle of a fortnite game?
Noah King
How similar are the movies and the book anyway? If I recall correctly the moves are not even an adaptation, right? They are ""inspired"" by the book?
Jordan Hall
Fantasy recently was litrpg, now isekei, next is wuxia and 1000 year old tree slaughter. Some are doing isekei with litrpg, or wuxia ieskei with litrpg.
Connor Watson
I don't mind subverted shit. I do hate cliche tropes though.
Justin King
I'm the opposite
Carter Cruz
How is this book? I've beeb wanting to read something by GRRM but I refuse to read GoT because it's basically smut,
I didn't like Lord of Light that much. It may have been a complete story, but for me it left too many questions about the setting unanswered.
Matthew Sanders
questions like what? there were fucking demons that manifested as fire tornadoes that could possess people and a cloud of electrons that people could beam your "self" in and out of. you think zelazny knew how to build some shit like that? fuck no, it's imagination. you were told that it's there, imagine why.
>What book disappointed you the most? Neuromancer. I kept seeing it praised, it sounded cool. And first part of the book was. But then we hit the space station with the people who "want to be like wasps but not really" and the AI that's annoying. I liked the heist to go get the box with the other hackers personality, I enjoyed case getting surgery so that he can jack in, but the book tanked later on
Cameron Robinson
It's compelling, because it's the only way I can see myself being satisfied with their release, but I think it's just gossip by some no-name who wouldn't know that shit anyways.
Ayden Myers
there's barely any sex in got compared to some actually sex-focused books, you just got memed by people who are shocked at the first sight of sexuality in fiction
It's just ol' whatshisface's charts. Making charts is hard.
Isaiah Smith
charts on Yea Forums are useless, either no one reads them or they're filled with completely obvious picks
Ryan Cruz
>filled with completely obvious picks Isn't that sort of the point of charts though? For people who know nothing about a genre.
Christopher White
they're useless if they don't include brief descriptions of every book, like that divine comedy chart. otherwise, you're better off just typing in "good fantasy books" on google
Easton Carter
Is there anything like Alien? With that feel like Giger gives.
Yea Forums is making fun of the Throne of Glass series again, when will the bullying stop?
Jack Smith
libgen.
Parker Foster
Then you make a chart and put a blurb for every fucking book. I suggested you books, it up to you to google the books if the name and cover catches your attention. I had to do the ground work by looking at blurbs, reviews, then reading them all, all you had to do is picking one. If you want change, fucking make it yourself, and stop being a bitchboi who whines every time charts are brought up and no one adds an extra 3hrs putting in blurbs.
Dominic Campbell
Whomever makes the new thread, don't forget the previous threads goes like this.
Mason Robinson
Roadside Picnic
Michael Sanders
>but for me it left too many questions about the setting unanswered. You are very retarded.
Blake Sullivan
Subversion IS cliche by this point.
Robert Ross
I've seen many people recommend the first few Dark Tower books while shunning the later ones, but are they really outright unreadable? Or are they still readable, but a letdown compared to the earlier ones?
Jaxon Thompson
New thread slave get to work.
Andrew Wilson
>fapped to an old hag Truly degenerate.
Kayden Sanders
im sorry sir
Isaac Perez
Have we gone full circle already? Have tropes been subverted enough times to create new, now overused tropes?
Chase Thompson
reading ship of destiny right now, Kennit is truly one of the most equally despicable and charismatic villains I've seen. Mad ship REALLY fucking puts in leg work winning you over to his side, leaving you lacking in viewpoints for him so you don't see his inner thoughts much, but fucking christ the guy is just irredeemably ruthless and insane inside as always.
I never made it past the 4th book of ASOIAF if that means anything. Really did not care at all about a single character in the series, GRRM really goes out of his way to make everyone despicable and unlikable in some way and I just couldn't bear to read it much more.
Plus it was fucking boring and way too longwinded.
Ryder Cook
We are on page 9. Some new slave hurry up and don't fuck up the previous. Or you could let it die and give me sweet release from this website please let it die
Brody Diaz
Mah nigga. Liveship Trilogy is heavily underrated.
Carter Perez
I'd make one but I don't want to EMBED EMBED EMBED EMBED and embarrass myself so I'll just wait for someone else.