Have you ever publish a novel, Yea Forums? If so what was the genre and story...

Writing porn and shit is one thing but to simultaneously act pretentious is the problem. Agents seem to have such high standards in their blogpostings and submissions page, but then their clients published list is a bunch of garbage.

I imagine it's largely payola based, like the old pop radio music thing. Most Women read something because its hip, not because it's good, so its no wonder popularity contest is always big part of it.

A good agent in the business of selling schlock looks at 90% gossip-marketability, 10% merit in case of female-only audience.

50 shades isn't anything stellar even as a fanfic, but unlike rest of the smut on fanfiction.net, it was fairly well promoted.

You're factually correct, I'm just still upset.

Published author here. It was vampire erotica and I'm not ashamed to admit that.

I read a good extract about publishing tips in Stephen King's One Writing, mentioning the best ways to send drafts to publishers and what to include, etc. I know lit memes him but you have to admit that he knows how to sell a book, if nothing else

>vampire erotica

Name?

Count Cockula

The fleshlight.

>I'm just still upset.
Why? It's the name of the game.

But that would be appropriation

Self published my first novel on amazon a couple months ago. It hasn't sold a single copy but it's a very bad novel so that's for the best.

Started work on my second one now and im extremely determined to make it good. I hope one day we can all make it

What was the first novel about?

Several Erotica Novels under a pen name that did pretty well, and continue to sell decently. Not to mention like 10-20 short stories about 10k in length.

Trying to break out from that though because I want to write genre fiction like Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Horror. Erotica writing is fun, but kills the fun of porn when you're looking at it and writing it constantly to try and make money.

Keep at it user. Everyones first novel is shit when they put it up. You can always go back in and revise it later down the line when you start to get the idea of what you're doing, and can work with beta readers, editors, and stuff.

I did. Postmodern, slice-of-life type of "artsy" stuff.
killed all my drive to write stuff.
piece of advice: don't get published.

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Why did it?
I'm sorry to hear that user.
Tell me more, what happened exactly?

It was my life goal, sort of. I've studied at uni knowing that I would be broke anyway.
Got published around the time I lost all hope in getting published. Found someone who truly understands what I was trying to do. Felt "wow" for a moment, then nothing.
Went to a book club discussing my book, see plebs totally missing points and making their own stupid interpretations which don't even make sense.
understood and accepted that human communication (from one mind to another) is impossible.
Since then I have lost all the drive to write. And whatever I DO write, I write for myself only.

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Yes. In order once you have your first draft:
1. 3+ drafts plus a proofreading by a professional proofreader.
2. Author exchange or some beta readers. There are sites where authors can exchange novels and provide critiques for each other. Author exchanges work well because both sides are motivated to hone their skills and get their product back.
3. Pay for a professional literary editor. This isn't cheap, but it's worth it. Expect to leave a big chunk of your novel on the cutting room floor.
2. Hire an artist. You can get them cheap on places like Etsy or Sketchmob from East Asia. Get some promo art. This is bringing me to my next point.
3. Make a presskit. Include your headshot, your promotional art, and a sample of your manuscript (something fast-paced and quick to read but guttural).
4. Have a physical and digital one.
5. Hand that shit out wherever you can.

Now, if you're white and a man, you're going to have a hard time getting published. If you believe your novel is good (and you've been told it's good by and professional) and you're STILL getting rejection notices, it's time to game the system and invest in yourself. Have a limited paperback run printed off and started watching shitty book tubers. Send them the book and gush about how great their channel is for their review of Throne of Glass or Book of the New Sun and ask humbly if they'd read your book. Stroking their ego is more likely to make them like your book, and if they're "on the ground floor" of something that is currently being shopped around, they can be that pandering 'before-it-was-cool' hipster.

>how to get published in 1950: be a good writer
>how to get published in current year: do the job of the agent, editor, publisher, and marketing team for them, schlurp cum like it's melted ice cream, shave your asshole and bend over

Why do you guys perpetuate this bullshit. I know it's Yea Forums however I thought Yea Forums of all places applied critical thinking. Fuck this shit isn't even ironically funny anymore. This isn't Yea Forums nor /pol/. Can we try to not be disingenuous. Please.

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explain further

This brainlet notion that white males are being excluded from the publishing realm

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hello I want to write lesbian erotica as a sort of side hustle. do you like the experience of being a successful writer of erotica?

I wrote a novel and shopped it around and got a few agents to read it. One said it was "too slow and measured" while the other one said it was "disturbing" and would be "impossible to sell."

I've written other things so a few of them noticed my name (which was very nice) ... and then wondered why I didn't write a non-fiction book. Gee, I dunno, because I didn't ... wtf

you're the only one who said shit about white males, friend. i'm not even a white male myself.

>Now, if you're white and a man, you're going to have a hard time getting published.
>Just sell out and make a SJW story about a trans girl getting beaten up by republicans. It's the only way to enter the literary world

Jewish people are "white" now? Or are they considered "middle eastern" in these graphs?

>everyone else on Yea Forums is one person
k m8
they're white when it's advantageous to them to be.

>Have you ever publish a novel, Yea Forums?
Yeah, I've written and published a few shitty pulp urban fantasy novels on Amazon, and now I make a full-time living from it. It's legit not that difficult to make a living as a writer if you're not trying to be some cringey artiste.

It's not so bad really. Its kind of fun to pretend to be someone I'm not just to sell an image. I'm a chunky manlet with a biker beard who drinks just coffee and beer, but the penname I have is feminine, and I act like I'm secretly a trap in descriptions, newsletters, e-mails and shit. That seems to get female, tranny, twinks, and tranny chasers as an audience when most of my erotica is just threesomes and BDSM.

Like I said, the only real downside is writing about stuff that doesn't interest me at all. I'm not interested in Cuckolding, Vampires, or Alpha Bad Boy Billionaires, but that shit seems to sell a lot and I find myself bored more than engaged when I'm writing that stuff for an audience.

>and now I make a full-time living from it
Fill the gaps user. How do you make a full time living out of it?

write books in popular genres
buy or create nice eye-catching book covers
put them on Amazon using KDP
do some marketing
?????
PROFIT

there's no secret to it. just provide stuff to people that they want and are willing to pay for

What?

Can I get a link to those books

it's a meme

He's lying to you

oh look I'm so funny and edgy and next week I'm 13

Counterclaim it.