Right-wing postmodernism?

Foucault is the greatest critic of liberalism. Also Marshall Mcluhan

I will admit I've been hesitant to read Foucault because I see so many students on my campus talk about him and carry copies of his books around. Perhaps they just don't understand him, but I will read him now.

Never heard of Mcluhan. Will look into him. Someone recommended a book titled Archeofuturism or something a while back. Is that fit into what I mentioned I'm looking for? Never read it.

Unironically read Hitler. He was pleb tier with regards to economics - but he was aware of his ignorance, which is a step ahead of most people. He fails to establish a third position but he certainly paves the path to it. The socialist elements of their platform proffered by the locksmith were little more than Marxism.

Not Ted. Ted hates fascists, leftists, any kind of "collectivist" movement. Someone like Linkola. Btw you sound young, you should probably start thinking of growing out of fascism before it poisons your mind entirely

Ecofascism dates at least as early as Hitler.

Hitler wasn't an ecofascist. This is where the eternal logic of ecofascism breaks down -- they're not really concerned with the world, the wild, nature, ecology, etc. Ecofash usually mean something like "central park, but with no black people" or "imagine yellowstone with no jews." The fascist comes first. Ecology is a distant second. If it was the other way around, they would realize that they can't reform industrial technology -- tech and the environment will always be at loggerheads.

I don't understand how you can be socailly conservative and subscribe to postmodernism simultaneously
>fascism is racism
no, fascism is nationalist totalitarianism

I'll check out Linkola. I certainly would not consider myself a fascist. I accept liberal democracy as perhaps the most practical system of government, but, I think, as Strauss says, to be a friend of liberal democracy we should not be its flatter.

>fascism isn't racism
>I just don't want any black people in my pure white country

I see. Good point. I thought there maybe existed some synthesis of the two but under a different name maybe.

If you wouldn't consider yourself a fascist, then Linkola will repel you. Here's a techno-skeptic chart. Start with the stuff here if you're genuinely worried about technology. If you find yourself slanting left but don't like SJWs try out the anti-idpol left before you shrug and go "well, guess I gotta go full Hitler." There's a bunch of us who don't care for the purple haired fat lesbian school of thought.

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I'm not saying fascism is never racist, I'm saying that it's first and foremost a nationalist totalitarian ideology. it's possible to be fascist and egalitarian (at least within the nation's borders), it's just rare. and for the record, not a fascist

There's not, not really. "Postmodernism" is about a broad a term as "psychology" but in a nutshell it means "distrust of all meta-narratives." If you're socially conservative, you probably buy into things like western civilization, race/racial purity, "your people," nationalities, to some extent, and postmodernism says that all of these ideas are false.
the postmoderns are right read them before you disagree

>white nationalism is fascism
Just leave, brainlet.

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I'm saying that nationalist totalitarianism is inseparable from racism. Egalitarianism means equal for those of the nation, which usually means anyone who's not of Blood and Soil.

There's plenty of socially conservative postmodern theologians

ww2.d155.org/pr/tdirectory/APetersen/Lists/19th 20th Century World History Calendar/Attachments/232/The Manifesto of Race.pdf

>From Fascist Italy's "Manifesto of Race"
>The existence ofthe human races is not at all an abstraction of our spirit, and corresponds instead to a phenomenical reality, which is material and can be perceived through our senses... IT IS TIME THAT ITALIANS DECLARE THEMSELVES RACIST. All the work that the Regime has done until now in Italy is essentially a form of racism."
Fascism is inherently racist, you fucking retard.

These look like great books, particularly the one by Heidegger. While I am somewhat skeptical, I have begun to embrace technology and encourage its advancement. There is little that can be done to stop it at this point -- I don't see people rioting at the hqs of major tech companies... at least not yet.

That makes sense now. Thanks. I misunderstood postmodernism, but I will still read it. What is a meta-narrative? I searched it online, but still a bit unsure.

Could you please recommend one or a few?

I thought that postmodernism was defined through its critiques of advertisement/marketing, capitalism, etc.; and as accepting forces of technology in the postmodern world/epoch.

>Hitler wasn't an ecofascist.
How, specifically, does he not qualify? The only arguments that I am imagining imply demagoguery. The rest of your post seems to imply that you are letting modern retard-tier skinheads speak for him.

I'm both of those anons. If you've never encountered any sort of techno-skepticism, ever, go for The Technological Society or Industrial Society and Its Future. Those'll get you thinking. Meta-narratives are kind of hard to explain, but you can think of them as overarching stories we tell ourselves. For example, think of history -- the general idea is we were enlightened with the Greeks, lost that during the Middle Ages, kind of gained it back in the Renaissance, and we've been on an upward trend of enlightenment/knowledge gained ever since. That's a meta-narrative. All religion is another one. The idea that Science progresses towards some abstract Truth is another. Hell, even Marxism (the idea that all history is at its core class struggle) is a meta-narrative that postmodernists distrust.
Just a tip -- you don't "read postmodernism" any more than you "read psychology." You read postmodern thinkers -- and they often fought with and against each other. If you've never read any postmodern philosophy, I'd start with intro-level YouTube vids. Try Cuck Philosophy, Contrapoints, PhilosophyTube, Shaun, or hell just type in "what is postmodernism" and find some credible sources.

>post PoI Mussolini
Irrelevant.

>I just don't want any black people in my pure white country
Hitler suggested that every nationality should have their own place and that, at the core of their nationality, they should be proud of whomever they happened to be - even if they happened to be black. There is nothing wrong with blacks and whites each having their own respective places. Anything else forfeits your own personal sense that your own kind has value. No one should forfeit this sense; not even the blacks.

Ah, alright. I'll start with that first then, as I haven't read any books on techno-skepticism. And that explanation is very helpful, as well as your tip (seems like I had a fundamental misunderstanding of postmodernism and its various thinkers). Thanks again.

>fascism isn't racist
>I just don't want any black people in my pure white country
>see, not racist

No prob user, just keep your head on straight and think for yourself

>just type in "what is postmodernism" and find some credible sources.
suffice to say that you shouldn't click on any obviously conservative sources, like JBP or Ben Shapiro, who have little idea what pomo actually means

Not him, but you two seem to be differing in your definitions of racism. If you fail to accept a difference between racism and racialism then you will not get very far down this road. It is an important distinction. Without it you will drown in your own subjectivity.

Will do. Good advice.

Alright. I'll watch out for conservative sources. I saw cuck philosophy has a series on postmodernism so ill watch that first.

Stop getting your education from Yea Forums FFS

good plan. it's not that there aren't good conservative critiques of pomo -- there are often excellent excellent ones -- it's more that YouTube conservatives almost NEVER attack pomo in good faith. You'll walk away with a twisted understanding of what pomo means. Imagine trying to learn about the republican party but only thru watching MSNBC. That kind of twist.

Ah, I see. Point taken. Thanks for the heads up.

That is, unironically, not racist. That is racialist. Believing that every race should have their own destiny is not racist. You may disagree all you want but there is a distinction. Pretending that there is none is only fooling yourself.

>basically rehashing "separate but equal"

>YouTube conservatives almost NEVER attack pomo in good faith
This holds true very far outside of the bounds that you have stipulated. This is not limited to youtube, conservatives, or pomo.

Caputo
Milbank
Marion
Vattimo

Looking forward to checking them out. thanks

That is not an argument. Regardless "separate but equal" in the US was never really separate and never really equal. I am more arguing for complete separation of destinies - not one in which the black is continually kept subservient. If they had their own destiny then any claim regarding my failure to provide for them would be void prima facie - as would the inverse claim.

Cucky Philosophy is great but I think he's a tad pretentious, in the sense of forcing meaning into meaningless things for mere entertainment value. That Sonic Adventure video, for instance, was a deep analysis, but still, you can only go so deep when talking about the inherent philosophies of mainstream media rather than its context (like in his video on hauntology), so in the end it was a video full of truisms even for a guy that knows pretty much nothing about philosophy like me (and I have no idea how come people were so impressed about it).

>remember "separate but equal"? not to be racist, but I want to bring that back and turn it up to eleven

>forcing meaning into meaningless things for mere entertainment value
the essence of philosophy

take the REDpill
congratulations you're not right-wing any more

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Read Disciplin and Punish, fantastic book, and also great entrypoint for foucault.

Stop bringing your garbage to my board :/

Go back to whatever saturated shithole you slithered out of you are just wasting space.

Remember that multiculturalism, from a perspective of the USA, is pro-slavery. Without slavery, they would never have been here. The entire underpinning of a multicultural USA rests on slavery as a basis. This is of course on the black/white line that you have taken. I am not disregarding the fact that other races exist here and have their own history. I would rather that slavery had never existed and that they had stayed in their own homeland. Do you consider slavery a necessary evil?

im so sick of this boring website and its boring hypocritical right wing poseurs

Peter Sloterdijk

Ya. It's just hard to leave after so long

thanks!

just want to learn and be big brained like you :(

will do!

OP I suggest you unironically read SIEGE by James Mason. All anarchists should read this.

>anarchists
I heard that Stirner predicted transition from anarchist to totalitarian in the face of protracted failure of disunity. Can anyone point to where he expounds on this?

this is the most garbage hypothetical I've ever seen, but I'll humor you
slavery is not a necessary evil. I would trade this universe for the one where slavery never existed, and diversity/BLM were replaced with a minority of immigrants-rights activists (of whom I would be a member). diversity is only good because of the history and context we currently have

>OP forms an opinion based on buzzwords
>his responses makes your skin crawl

its so hard to tell whats satire and what isint these days, but if it is satire this is some of the best ive seen in a while

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>will do!

I think your lost kid go back.

>diversity is only good because of the history and context we currently have
>because of the history and context we currently have
See? You cannot escape it. You are pinned to the history of slavery as a necessary agent for your philosophy to function.

a """"happy"""" accident

>everyone should have their own place to live in
>wtf you racist

You're just a learned lefty with a mind-my-own-business attitude.
One that lead you to reject open boarders as being a good thing.

Very common today.

If you call yourself right winged (e.g. because nationalism and socialism doesn't seem as an inherently bad of an idea to your anymore all of a sudden), then the only thing this achieves is that, against your will, you end up emotional arguments with leftists which (by choosing your opponent) make you indirectly defend rightwinged ideologues and bitter idiots.
Don't identify as left or right.
You'll waste time in discussions with disregard to how position derive from base positions but instead merely have listen to an endless stream of opinions on unresolvable questions (abortion, hierarchies, etc.).

The reason why unconditional accelerationism and stream of the like exist is exactly because it's an aestetic for left-winged protectionists who want to park their car somewhere till they find a non-idiotic alternative.

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And what about people who don't fit into the arbitrary construction of race? The world is full of multiracial people.

>Left-wing economically
Then you're not a right winger lol

Right wing = hierarchy, traditional institutions

If you are anti-materialist and therefore don't see economics as being the determining factor in someones hierarchical position, then yes you can be both right wing and socialist. Economic equality is completely compatible with spiritual, state, and familial inequality.

My suggestion is to read some texts on acceleration and some actual texts on fascist futurism and some of the philosophy of Giovanni gentile.

My model is itself pretty much a synthesis of these.

Slowly by slowly capitalism dissolves all things which is good because the hard developmental state can coagulate all things back under its preferred cultural standards. Effectively the controlled creation of simulacra for mutual benefits.

Eventually the full adulthood of capitalism shall occur and automation shall arise, this will render the majority of left wing and right wing thought useless as this will fully empower the corporate elite and powers and the current establishment political regime. They will meld even further these two groups until there is no difference and the ever advancement of technology will allow them to indoctrinate people utterly into the simulacra at unheard of levels.

This will allow the state to have totalitarian reign over the citizenry as it is fully able to push any agenda it desires, this mixed with the gradual dissolution of democracy in practice (but not the image of democracy) will effectively give you a fully totalitarian state.

At this point the lionshare of humanity will likely become useless but this is fine because things like Crispr exist, we will see eugenics on the private market and less strong variants applied to the public. Non-racial gene editing will be the future and this will advance humanity as a whole but this will likely benefit the ruling class much more due to wealth, this will create an ACTUAL caste of super-men which have been self created by their own paying for such treatments upon their children.

It’s likely by this point some form of UBI will arise to keep the population calm, it’s likely that the ruling caste won’t ever dissolve due to these final solidifications of power and it is fully likely that the state will turn totalitarian at this point.

While there is a lot of interesting ideas in neo-reaction and right-acceleration a lot of it is over optimistic about certain goals, such as city states and neo-feudalism and what have you. You will see a future of a majority by current standards wealth, large hierarchical eugenics based totalitarian state.

I hold no favor to racial considerations because I know and as should you that the eugenics shall maximize the lower men and all statistics show all of the lower iq races seem to race mix far more than the whites, this will produce a race of mostly white offspring for the black population, the Hispanic population eventually integrates easily and Asians will by their unification with the whites likely produce the future Race.

To me this is the logical end of the current range of options, left wing options will increase totalitarianism and social aid which will accelerate it. Right wing options will accelerate totalitarianism and by their speedy economic measures increase tech.

DESU Nietzsche and Spengler both did the 'no absolute truth or meaning, history is relative' perspectivism better than the French. Read all of Nietzsche's books and read Decline of the West.
As for right-wing postmodernism in the 21st century, Dugin interacts with postmodernism quite a bit in The Fourth Political Theory. Mencius Moldbug had a very postmodern witticist writing style that weirdly reminded me of DFW. The alt-right in general is quintessentially postmodern (frogposting, "clown world", ironic gas chamber memes, fashwave). MDE used post-irony to level far-right critiques against modern society, and it was buried under so many layers of irony that dumb boomers at Cartoon Network aired it not knowing what it was. Hell even The Great Replacement, that guy's video, and his antics in court were basically postmodern performance art.
To me postmodernity is a condition inflicted upon us by the death of tradition through industrialization, and the subsequent death of industry, leaving us with a generation raised by confused parents who never knew tradition and don't have any clue what comes next, or even any inkling that a big 'something' could come next.

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>puggles exist, therefore golden retrievers don't
next

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You are approaching the Third Position. Capitalism is only a tool, a great way to generate wealth and technological advancement, but no better than the people that use it. It was Marx who coined the term "capitalism" and reduced the intricate complexity of our system of productive enterprise to only one factor: money.

>that we can return to the rose-colored America of the past
Other than lefties insisting we treat different species as humans and subsidise people who should be left to die, what exactly prevents this? Automation? Outsourcing? These are far from insurmountable obstacles, in fact they pave the way for a return to a golden age.

>who don't fit into the arbitrary construction of race?
Why would a mixed race person not fit into the "arbitrary" (do you really fucking believe that, by the way?) categories, especially given that we had a one drop rule for hundreds of years anyway?

en.metapedia.org/wiki/Third_Position

>shows Mussolini changing position to accomodate his only possible ally after western Europe turned his back at him due to the ethiopian fiasco.
>fascism is inherently racist
I'm so sorry for you it must be so hard to Live with only half a brain...

>I have begun to embrace technology and encourage its advancement
wow you must be really influential

Nazbol is what you're looking for. Just imagine comrade Stalin as a monarch

What would you prefer to discuss about then?

Then go back to chapo

This is so fucking cringe.

STOP USING THE TERM POST MODERN WHEN YOU DON'T MEAN POST MODERN
FUCKING JUDEN PETERPSEUD AND HIS RETARDED FOLLOWERS RUINING EVERYTHING

>fascism is inherently racist
But it literally has nothing to do with race
Giovanni Gentile didnt write about race, Benito Mussolini didn't write about race, Oswald Mosley didn't write about race. It has nothing to do with race any more than communism does.
Sorry you are mentally deficient.

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It's the total cafeteria. Every aspect of your life is presented to you in modularized sets of options to choose from. You pick what you like no matter if your picks fit together. This is muttmerica.