Frank Miller is le BAD!

Not that user but did you just genuinely defend The Spirit movie?

Miller isn't right wing, he voted for Clinton, hates Trump, loves Antifa and Greta.

While the article is no doubt the usual stupid virtue signaling, it's really interesting how Miller's work lost all the satirical tone that was there in such books as Martha Wasinghton and even in fucking Hard Boiled.

Basically, he lost his minds in the alley of Sin City and never managed to find his way out from there.

fucking trash website

he has repented over the things he said post 9/11

and besides they were never that controversial anyway

>300
>pro-fascist
Zack Snyder levels of reading comprehension.

TDKR has weird fascist overtones of "people are weak and stupid and morally corrupt, and need a strong man who is above any norms or laws to unite them and restore order and glory."

But then Year One has progressive themes of challenging the the corrupt rich, and the downtrodden poor taking back power.

Tbh, I don't think that means too much about Miller. Somebody writing a book with fascist undertones doesn't make them a fascist… it could just mean that ideas that are part of their environment make their way into their work, and even a liberal democracy is going to have some cultural ideas floating around in it that are subtlety kinda fashy. Whatever. Somebody could point that out while still thinking it's a good story. It's a lot different from something like a Chick Tract, where it is totally constituted by corrupt morals to the point where it has zero aesthetic value.

true. not because of his political beliefs though, but because he is a terrible writer and artist.

It's pretty genius of Dan Didio to have Miller sell each page of new content as an NFT

>loves Antifa

Which is about as genuinely anti-fascist as Nazi Germany or Putin's Russia.

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>TDKR has weird fascist overtones of "people are weak and stupid and morally corrupt, and need a strong man who is above any norms or laws to unite them and restore order and glory."
This is the entire concept behind Batman, it's baked in. This is why there are so many anti-Batman Batman stories now, the libs are struggling to reconcile their childhood fondness of Batman with the fact that his existence goes against their values.

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>anti-Batman Batman stories
examples?

Joker War, White Knight, and The Batman are three recent ones that come to mind.

Hasn't Frank Miller been dying for a decade now? What sustains him?

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His hatred for le Muslims and sexy comic book girls.

Wasn't this the guy who changed his entire personality after 9/11?

Yea, apparently he saw the very event from his apartment. It changed his life forever.

How old is Miller? Like 70? What exactly is the deal with fags like this Elliot Swan guy?

>Elliot Swan
>Polymath. Thinker. Writer. Artist. Farmer.
>FtM dyke who writes articles shipping America Chavez and Kate Bishop

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That nigga still alive?

It's now even more NPC to claim "Frank Miller was never good" or "Frank Miller is... le FASCIST"

>BEEP BOOP [CURRENT THING]

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Ideology is shaped not only through logic and rhetorical arguments, but by experiences as well. Frankly, people who write articles like this aren't very worldly, but that's only my experience.

>Be progressive
>Add 30 years
>Politics got so bonkers you're now regressive

More like
>add 30 days

progressive used to mean something else. it was about equality, now it's about revenge and segregation, it was about standing up to the government lies, now it's about blindly obeying, it used to be about people of all races working together, now it's about replacement, used to be about telling the truth to the people, now it's about firing people for not listening to government propaganda. progressives changed, not him.

>pro-Fascist graphic novel
did you just watch schneider's movie or something?

"Progressive" is just a label marxists hide behind.
This was always their goal.
All that's changed is that they believe that they had accumulated more power than they really had, became more brazen with their marxism, and are now being purged from our institutions because everyone hates them and what they do.

you sound schizophrenic

Based.

>TDKR has weird fascist overtones
Yes, and that's the best thing about it, it's the story of batman achieving his apotheosis and ascending into a mythological being. Its metaphysical aspects are what make it fascinating aswell as inherently right wing. It's a rejection of retarded post-modern deconstructions, where they only break apart stories for the sake of criticism without any desire to push forward the medium, Frank Miller deconstructed batman so that he could redefine the character in his own image, and usher it in to the modern age. And it also for this reason Frank Miller was superior to Alan Moore. Where Moore wa was a leftist cynic in his approach to storytelling, Frank Miller saw that comics could be more and actively worked to make the medium better. Miller left a positive impact and Moore left a negative one

Not really. TDKR has even the regular civilians of Gotham doing shit like pushing each other onto train tracks and being assholes. It takes Batman to better people who are morally lost if left to their own devices .

In most regular Batman stories, the civilians themselves are good and worth saving. The problem is that they are left vulnerable to and live in fear of evildoers who exert their power over others. So, Batman protects the people by turning fear against the people who use it. Pretty much, there are scary monsters out there in the dark, but at least the scariest one is on our side.

And at least since the modern age, the idea has been that those evildoers are the product of corruption at the top having downstream consequences, rather than "they're just evil." Mr. Freeze, Two-Face, Joe Chill… they still do what they do because they got screwed over by the unfair environment they exist in. The difference between them and the good guys is that the good guys let what happened to them motivate them to prevent it from happening to others, whereas the bad guys use what happened to them to justify doing bad things. So, there's a healthy mix of "personal responsibility" and recognizing that systemic unfairness breeds crime.

This is the modern comic audience in a nutshell nowadays.

Retard. Both Miller and Moore worked hard to produce comics that pushed the medium forward and both still had a negative impact.

Doesn't one renounce being a "dyke" once one becomes FtM?

I mean, true. If you have important things going on in your life and have seen shit, you're not going to spend your time wondering if a guy who writes in a medium with a very niche audience should have less esteem given to him by that audience because of things he said a decade ago when his brain was fried by alcoholism and 24/7 cable war coverage.

Incidentally, if I had anything important going on in my life, I wouldn't be in this thread.

These are both correct
Miller and Moore tried their hardest to push comics into something better
Most people took the wrong lessons from them
However, a lot of the books that were more Miller-inspired were a lot of inane grim and gritty action hero style stuff while a lot of the books that were more Moore-inspired were all about making superheroes look ineffective, whether intentionally or unintentionally

>it's another "alphabet faggot frets about Islamaphobia as if they wouldn't get chucked off the roof in any muslim country" episode

No no no! The more labels you can accrue, the better and more morally unassailable you are as a person.

this

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You have no idea what Marxism means.

'cept they don't buy comics.

ok groomer

Yes but they post a lot on Twitter alongside all the retards currently writing comics, so they get to have more sway than actual customers.

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Good posts

No, it isn’t. And this is the exact same mistake companies are making. Degenerates like this don’t buy comics, they hardly even read them for free.

>he doesn't identify as a lesbian (male)
ngmi

You...I like you

>filtered

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gee, I wonder what seething marxists was behind this post