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>This is not a mature show.
And?

adult =/= maturity

Being for adults doesn't equal being mature, if that was true then the happy time murders and sausage party are mature movies. Just because something is made for adults doesn't still mean that the execution is still juvenile. Desu, I'd prefer a well written fairy tale over a thousand retards trying to use gore and rape to pretend that they're "adult" like the retards in the 90s making comic books after watchmen.

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Family Guy isn't an adult show you tranny

>if people are constantly dying and fucking it's not "mature"
A lot like you.

aren't*
Whatever.

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>t. MCU lover
Lewis and Alan Moore would shit on you and rightfully so.

They're not. This is by definition false and you're a midwit.
It's OK to like shows aimed at a younger target audience. It's infantile to call others manchildren for watching TV-MA content.

>Inb4 that C.S. Lewis quotes
Both of these perspectives are correct, and neither inherently contradicts the other. Fear of the Inner Child is an obelisk built by inadequacy, and Lewis is right to note that enjoyment of the 'childish,' when broadly considered, is a healthy component of functional adulthood; he is also correct in pointing out that to categorize the 'adult' as equivalent to 'artistically meritorious' is insecure. Moore doesn't criticize this perspective, I think, but instead criticizes the delusion of men who consume such content unthinkingly and without speculation as to their enjoyment, and of content which does not seek to provoke that speculation. When Lewis talks about fairy tales, he is speaking of them through a critical lens -- medieval romance, such as Sir Gawain, might be an example he'd use of 'childish things,' or, perhaps sections of popular poetry; traditional Christian or Grimm or Parrault stories that capture and prod ceaselessly at the imagination. These narratives, like any good work of fiction, begged analysis, and were part of storied academic tradition. They were also unequivocally children's tales. Lewis was not thinking of gross pulp so utterly devoid of artistic merit that it creates mass audiences of the unaware. Name anything culturally valuable or provocative perpetuated in capeshit. You can't. It is media not only designed to be enjoyed by children, but designed to dis-provoke engagement beyond getting your ass in a seat another fucking bag of greasy popcorn between your pudgy fucking fingers. Lewis would have rightly spit on it as well.

>Name anything culturally valuable or provocative perpetuated in capeshit. You can't.
What about Watchmen?

Oh shit not this fag again. Don't you have Sonic to sperg about or something?

I didn't know brainless people could live that long,let alone type

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Fuck your gods.

themes make a piece of media mature you fucking redditor

i bet you watch shit like rick and morty or heluva boss

Helluva Boss is cancer. I’ve been railing against it since 2019.

Why does something need sex crammed into it to be mature

Not as cancer as this thread

I swear there's been a weird influx of "maturity/darkness" posting.

Because sex is the only thing that's sacred.
It's also the only thing that's not handled with any sort of logic or true morality in america.

America needs to die already. You people ruin everything, especially for LGBT people.

Avatar fags getting baited this hard

I never outright tell my wife "I'm going to put my penis in your vagina" but we somehow keep doing it

I forget, did they outright show Cartman sucking a homeless guys dick in the sea people episode, or was it simply implied? Retard

Why do Americans hate dark themes so much?

this again?

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This gorilla schizo again?

How mature a show is, isn't based on superficial/trivial things like this. It's about the content/depth of the show.

Kids and teens. There needs to be more shows like A:TLA/Infiniry Train/etc.... where it's passable as a "kids" show, but it's equally good shit for teens

>It's about the content/depth of the show
Avatar and Infinity Train have neither. Just go watch anime, American entertainment is embarrassing.

>Toph called Aang tinkletoes, implying he's a fag.
She calls him that because he's got soft footsteps due to being an airbender

I do watch Anime lol. Japan have a different standard at what is deemed "kids" shows. Death Note in America is deemed a older teen/adult show, while in Japan that shit is marked for pre-teens/teens.
>Avatar and Infinity Train have neither.
How? They both deal with trauma/PTSD and mental health (more with Infinity Train). Behind all the cool shit in Avatar, it mainly deals with the effects of war and self-redemption. Infinity Train deals with working through your shit and not just ignoring it because sooner or later, it's going to fuck you over. It also deals with self-discovery and acceptance. These aren't things that someone would say are in kids shows or deem kid-related topics.

The west will never be able to do comics/manga like Japan does, not with its obsession with color. The color jacks up the production time and the print cost.

There's also the completely different cultures. Amerifats are always in cars but Japan's public transportation infrastructure means people can have an hour or more to kill a day on the trains. This gives you a built-in captive audience who will always need something fun to fill the time.

Then there's the fact that American comic artists can't survive in America on their shitty comic book wages with no healthcare, and get no help from their publishers. Japanese publishers help their artists layout their books, secure assistants, even find housing, and the national healthcare is always there.

Japan's just a superior place for comics. Americans don't want to read, don't have time to read, and certainly don't have the money to blow on comics printed like fine art books and pamphlets instead of like the consumable pulp trash they're supposed to be.

Incels can blame fags 'til their neckbeards turn blue, but the real villain is America itself. It is a country of fatasses with a failed infrastructure, and its art and entertainment scene reflects that elegantly.

Do you know what allude means?

Yes because I am not an American.

Why the reddit spacing?

>has no argument

>americaamericaamericaamerica
Holy shit are you third worlders fucking obsessed. No wonder you gargle Japan’s balls so much; your worthless existence is too busy seething about Americans to bother actually making anything of value yourself.

>The west will never be able to do comics/manga like Japan does, not with its obsession with color.
I agree, plus Japan is leaps ahead in America when it comes to imagination and creativity. Spider-Man is a great example on how longevity kills an idea or a character. All the cool shit in Spider-Man was already done for the most part during the 60s to 90s, mostly everything after is some rehash to a certain extent. How many Batman or Superman stories can really have that are authentic, creative, and some how push them in a way that wasn't really done before? I liked Jon, and Clark's relationship with him but I apparently the fucked zooted Clark into space and made Jon older now???

>Then there's the fact that American comic artists can't survive in America on their shitty comic book wages with no healthcare, and get no help from their publishers. Japanese publishers help their artists layout their books, secure assistants, even find housing, and the national healthcare is always there.
To be fair, American comic artists/writers compared to their Japanese counterpart have it way more better in terms stress. The avg. life of a mangaka is very stressful and the manga field is cutthroat asf, so if you're not dedicated or truly passionate then this isn't the field to go into

>Japan's just a superior place for comics. Americans don't want to read, don't have time to read, and certainly don't have the money to blow on comics printed like fine art books and pamphlets instead of like the consumable pulp trash they're supposed to be.
America killed it's Comic/Superhero/Cartoon culture, they don't embrace change and stick to the same 1 and 2 beat

>Incels can blame fags 'til their neckbeards turn blue, but the real villain is America itself. It is a country of fatasses with a failed infrastructure, and its art and entertainment scene reflects that elegantly.
I'd disagree. I think there's genuine thriving-ness (?) in music and film, other than I don't really know.

>I agree
Oh great another black and white fag shitting up the board.

>plus Japan is leaps ahead in America when it comes to imagination and creativity.
Nigga what? Japan can be just as creatively sterile as Americans, maybe not as often, but it still happens. How long have they been milking Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon at this point?

Take a break user, you're either too bored or too emotionally invested about Japan unironically. If we're being real, Japan doesn't give a fuck about America's comic industry or animation industry, the way America is. Japan isn't using American comics or popular characters to stick it to political heads.

If it's any consolation, I'm New Yorker (Bronx) and my post was about good shit like ATLA and Infinity Train (except the last season, that was messy and the excuse "it was meant to be a backstory for the next season" isn't a good one).
How am I being black and white? because I agree with some points? The only black and white person is you which is ironic. It's a fact that America can't do what Japan can, but doesn't mean they can't succeed these days. They just need to get out of their way. There should be more investment in cartoons/animations for teens and adults, we already see how it can be a success with Infinity Train, Star vs., Steven Universe, ATLA, Adventure Time, Arcane, Voltron (Netlfix), etc... but there's no real change.
That doesn't mean that overall Japan has way more creativity/imagination in their work though. Sure you may have your Sailor Moon/DB ripoffs, but you have:
A show about cannibals
A show about fucking pirates eating fruits for powers
A show about human nature and contemplating killing the life of one to spare the others
A show about alchemy and magic
Sports shows, how come there aren't a lot of American sport cartoons. Sports are so big here so how come we only have two show that I can think off, NFL Rush Zone and Wild Grinders?
Shows about murder mysteries
At some point the it stops being, what can we possibly do to save things. It starts becoming, why aren't we doing other things, and still doing the same shit. The fact that Disney tried to fuck over Amphibia and cancelled despite the success it got? At a certain point it becomes a joke.

It's not Summer yet, OP. You don't have an excuse to be this retarded.

Paragraphs?

Don't bother arguing with goalpost-movers, user

>How am I being black and white? because I agree with some points? The only black and white person is you which is ironic.
Retard I meant literally "black and white"; for some reason there's been an influx of people thinking that black and white comics are the only way to go and colored comics are bad. But continue to act defensive…

He's been here since 2019.

There's miscommunication here, that's on me. I didn't state it clear what I "agreed" about, but I was referring to the woke/political culture in America these days and how it permeates into American media compared to Japan. I probably clearly stated that instead of a simple, I agree.
>But continue to act defensive…
If you couldn't tell from my response to you, I had no idea wtf you were talking. That's the only reason why I was being "defensive", I didn't know you were referring to actual black and white color

>A show about fucking pirates eating fruits for powers
This IS one of the DB rip offs; the creator even admitted he was a huge Toriyama fan and Dragon Ball played a big influence on the series.

>we already see how it can be a success with Infinity Train, Star vs., Steven Universe, ATLA, Adventure Time, Arcane, Voltron (Netlfix)
LOL, what? Most of these shows are garbage and some of them are straight up failures.

There's a difference between rip off and inspiration. One Piece and DBZ are very different, and as OP went one it solidified it's own presence in anime. It's pretty crazy to see think how big DBZ of an effect it had on American Pop Culture in the 2000s
Which ones?
Infinity Train was great until it got cancelled and had a shitty last season
Star vs. was great until they decided to deal with political problems and race in the last season
SU for the most part was good~great until Change Your Mind. SU:F Film revitalized the series but it shat the bed with Steven's character and repeating the same mistakes in SU and get clipped like SU
Not sure what's bad/garbage in ATLA
Not sure what's bad/garbage in Adventure Time either
Haven't seen Arcane, but I've heard good things about it
Voltron was good until the last few (last two I think seasons), but during it's peak with the first 5 seasons it was pretty great