How come Superhero Comics only makes up 6.45% if the American Market?

It's still Scholastic. If One Piece outsells all of manga by hundreds of thousands and comic books by millions, it still outsells all of comic books.
Comic books are stale in story and art, manga may have the same stories since DBZ but the art in them is still worth the price 80% of the time.

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>If One Piece outsells all of manga by hundreds of thousands
That's the thing, it doesn't.
In America especially there are a lot more manga that manage to break into the top 100 bestsellers than other comics.
Also, get with the times user, One Piece hasn't been the yearly top seller since like 2019, even in Japan.

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Where is this from?
Like this chart specifically, not the bookscan data.

it's jujutsu kaisen, demon slayer, and My hero Academia that are the top sellers

Manga has been on an absolute conquest in the US Market, even the Japanese didn't expect it to do so well.

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Kids read manga because they want to get ahead of the anime and because they're easy to collect and look good on your shelf.

tell these adults at Barnes and noble to stop hogging space in the manga sections, it's for kids

He was obviously being hypothetical.

>If One Piece outsells all of manga by hundreds of thousands
one piece hasn't been top dog for like a decade now. time skip killed it.

The US graphic novel market*. It doesn't even make a dent in YA sales

>It doesn't even make a dent in YA sales
Lol
Dude, 4 of the top 10 publishers in the US last year were manga publishers, including the number 1 publisher.

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It's mainly because American writing has gotten kind of stale, so much so that even stale writing from a foreign market is more interesting.
When people are potentially more willing to turn to fucking CHINA for entertainment over you, that should set off some MAJOR red flags that maybe what you're doing isn't that interesting.

American sales will skyrocket to the top now when Hal has come out. Just you wait and see...

JFC...

The funnies are fun, I enjoy them.

your last thread hasn't even fallen off the board yet

Because prefer to read manga instead, since modern Superhero books are total crap. Manga books make all the money user.

Floppies aren't included in those numbers I'm guessing? Superhero sales are mostly from floppies.

user, please go outside

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Didn't you get banned from KYM?
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>The funnies are fun, I enjoy them.
Yeah those Carl Barks,Don Rosa books are always fun to read along with Lucky Luke, Smufs, peanuts, Asterix and Popeye.

It's bookscan, so I assume it doesn't include floppies.
Do they even sell floppies outside of comic shops nowadays?

Some Walmarts have floppies but nothing major

Because Manga numbers come from book stores while comic book numbers come from comic book shops.
This lesson was brought to you by going outside.

Is Wade talking about american comics? Because Demon Slayer sales were way higher.

This is a manga and was read more than Demon Slayer

Superheroes have moved on to the big screen now. Anime is moving into a dying market.

Demon Slayer outsold the entire American Industry in 2020....so yeah.

Amerimutts were always mocking manga in the early 10s and saying western media is by far superior to Japanese media just because they were doing well with globohomo/mega corp shit like AAA marketing. Its their own fault. It was obvious that AAA marketing would go collapse but none of them admitted it back then. Same goes for comics. They were totally rationalising the monopolised comic market with such a mindset.

At least Millennials could have a fun time doing such mega corp tings and enjoy their fleeting superiority, I guess. Now they got old, can only complain on Twatter, so its time for them to leave. Its no doubt that Zoomers and the younger generations are not buying any comics, are the main consumers of manga.

Makes sense. If you look at the ICv2 lists the top manga sell about 20 times more than the top comics. And as you go down the list it goes down to around 6 times as many. So it makes sense that manga is 10 times more popular than comics in America.

user, the pipeline isn't anime -> manga, it's literally the other way around.
Anime only exists because of the manga market, mainly the one in Japan, which is bigger than it's been in...I think ever, as of 2021.

Well western comics are still superior user

Nope. It's literally called Deadpool: Samurai.

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Ah, so Deadpool got featured in a manga and BTFO of all the American sales. Makes sense.

It was a free webcomic you mouth breathing tards

Didn't ANN debunk that?

Is everyone on Yea Forums autistic or am I just being trolled?

In millennials ofc. I didnt deny the fact. I clarified zoomers and the younger generations are the majority group of the manga consumers, want a different cultural value from the millennial mega corp trash.

Uhhh I like cartoons, I don't care about picture books.

Yea Forums in shambles.

imagine having to do damage control every time a new statistic comes out

Dont have a problem with this. Mostly reading manga and manhwa anyway. Comics make up the minority of what I read.

And? The point was people aren't interested in superheros but clearly they are if they read a superhero comic

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>Manga sales are big? the western comic industry is dead
Which is such a weird leap in logic. It's like if I was saying "French cinema is dying because more French people went to see NWH than B.A.C. Nord". It proves nothing about French cinema, simply that Hollywood is doing great in France. Are Americans so used to having their cultural industry be number one in their country that anything less than this is deemed a failure?

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I keep seeing this, and I have to wonder, does the guy who keeps posting this not realize that it's a joke, or is this some kind of "so dumb it's almost intelligent" troll?

It's a fact user

Even disregarding quality arguments I would imagine comics mostly being overpriced ($3+ for 20~ pages with ads for floppies, trades are much more expensive for less content than manga volumes too), being largely sold in niche stores that have been dying, and the DC/Marvel market domination providing less variety. I don't think people dislike superhero comics conceptually (see My Hero Academia, or in America, Invincible) but the complicated universes and constant crossover events are a huge turnoff.

And if you do want to start talking about story/art quality the simple truth is that the big 2 just don't have very good talent anymore. The pipeline used to be you could make a name for yourself there before moving on to creator owned, indie work that you could live off better because you cultivated a following from "mainstream" cape work. Nowadays artists can just skip that part because starting with indie owned work that then gets adapted into a TV show is a much better chance at success (ironically not unlike the manga to anime adaptation pipeline). So all of the best talent know the best chance at making a living don't lie with the big 2 anymore. What we're left with is the nerds whose only aspiration is writing Batman, the company men like Geoff Johns who've been there for decades, and already successful people who can afford to waste time working on a big 2 comic (like JJ Abrams and his son with that godawful Spidey book).

In summary: DC and Marvel are holding the American comics space back and need to die completely with the direct distribution system before actual competition with manga is even possible. Luckily this will happen in the next 5-10 years.

>graphic novels
comics*

The big two refuse to get their shit together, lose readers and don't get any new ones.

>like JJ Abrams and his son with that godawful Spidey book
I have to wonder if people actually go out and buy comics because [insert celebrity here] worked on them.
Like, did people go out and buy Umbrella Academy entirely because Gerard Way wrote it, or BRZRKR because Keanu Reeves writes it (and basically stars in it)?
It always seems really weird to me.

I think the braindead drones in Marvel's editorial/PR department think that, I don't actually have numbers for what that Spidey book sold on hand though.

To be fair to Gerard Way though, his career in writing is a lot more genuine. He had a comic published in 1993, so it's less that he was a famous person doing something as a gimmick and more something he always had an interest in and pivoted towards once his music career died down.

I want to read Umbrella Academy sometime though, I heard it's good.

What's the power gap between Dog Man and Bone? Because I know Bone's color reprints were Scholastic's flagship graphic novel before Dog Man exploded.

>To be fair to Gerard Way though, his career in writing is a lot more genuine. He had a comic published in 1993, so it's less that he was a famous person doing something as a gimmick and more something he always had an interest in and pivoted towards once his music career died down.
Fair enough, I could definitely see him being into writing more than someone like Emilia Clarke or something, especially since Umbrella Academy seems a lot more genuine in how it tells its story.

>What's the power gap between Dog Man and Bone?
Based on 2021 it seems like it's pretty big, which is expected since Bone is super old at this point. Still pulling in pretty good numbers though.

>Twenty-one volumes of Pilkey’s Dog Man (and spinoff Cat Kid) alone shift just under 5.2 million books, to recap.
>Also of note in the final Scholastic entry in the Top 750, and also coincidentally the final book of the Top 750 itself, and arguably the book that kicked off Scholastic’s market domination: Jeff Smith’s Bone: Out From Boneville which sells 12k copies.