Fantastic Four?

I hope every adaptation of any media you like is "woke" i fucking WISH that none of the FF4 in the main MCU time line are white.

>then again they did cast R*ddit's favorite darling as Reed for this movie instead of Ioan Gruffudd
Krasinski doesn't even fucking look like Reed, why do retards (that includes marvel now) cast that turd as reed?

Lad all the comics are from the 60s, are Hulk Black Widow or Spider-Man from the past? this adds nothing because the man hasn't explored the space since 1972, and this will ruin Dr Doom because he either will be old as fuck or not related to Reed, and Jim Halpert is old as fuck so the kids will be included from the first movie.

Your acting like a man in his 40's can't be with some 20 something year old woman and be a firet time dad.

Blunt is 40yo too

Gwyneth Paltrow was like 46 and RDJ was like 54 when End Game came out and was revealed there characters had a child

you can't have both, you either pick a cast in their early 30s and mid-late 20s like Tim Story did or you do this

Yes you can.

you know you can't, and with an old cast will be harder to do the Spider-Man Johnny "team" that you see in the comics too.

Just because Jim Halpert is 40 doesn't mean the rest of the cast will be old as fuck too

His wife. That's it, they want John and Emily as Reed and Sue because they think that R&S are Marvel's Golden Perfect Couple.

>Blunt is 40yo too
>Gwyneth Paltrow was like 46 ... when End Game came out and was revealed there characters had a child

These movies are turning into biology-denying wish fulfillment for middle-aged people.
Reminder than superheroes were at their most sophisticated when still having kids as the main audience. Pic related.

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Yeah, didn't he say something like, "Didn't you guys chart #1 in the 60s?", or something along those lines?

That sounds more like a Beatles/Fab Four + "Fantastic Four comic first launching in the 60s" reference than a confirmation that the Fantastic Four were 60s heroes in the MCU

don't really care how they do it, but it needs to be a family with franklin and valeria

>don't really care how they do it, but it needs to be a family with franklin and valeria
Yes, Marvel characters must never have character development. They need to be introduced to audiences in the status quo from current comics.

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Yeah I know, people like you are sadly the ones in charge instead of people who enjoy the source material.
>Lad all the comics are from the 60s
Most of the big characters are, yeah
>are Hulk Black Widow or Spider-Man from the past?
Not in the MCU they aren't, no, because we've seen their origins that take place decades later. F4 presents a unique opportunity because we haven't seen their MCU origin on screen yet. And besides, if there was a Spider-Man iteration that takes place in a 60s that sounds like fun.
>this will ruin Dr Doom because he either will be old as fuck or not related to Reed
Just have him somehow get frozen or travel in time too. Doom's time machine is a thing early on in the comics, and part of Kang's origin.

Bullshit he didn’t say that

I FUCKING HATE THIS 60s MEME SO GODDAMN MUCH

Why do people pretend to care about the F4

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They would have been contemporaries of Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne Ant-Man and Wasp.

Because Milf Sue and teen Valeria.

Why do you think the Incredibles was popular and made over a billion.

Why do you pretend to hate the F4

we only care about seeing if marvel can undo the curse of the ff4 movies failing twice

Because we're older than 20

I mean, 40 years is basically a different generation, maybe even two, of people who likely wouldn't remember FF in the 2000's.

Even if "superheroes" existed before, they can still be shocking to society, it's not like every other person is a superhero
At most you likely have Captain America (dubious on him being a superhero), and the FF that your grandparents talked about.

>F4 presents a unique opportunity
As unique as Captain America, Captain Marvel and Star-Lord,and you want a Frozen Dr Doom just like Captain America too ................

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only actual boomers give a shit about F4 nobody else does, its all about X-men or specifically Wolverine and Memepool that anyone now would give a shit about at this point

Carol was only around for a hot second and fucked off right afterwards.

>Just have him somehow get frozen or travel in time too
So you're suggesting that for the MCU, Doom gets displaced in the 60s and all this time he has been stuck with the F4 on the same incident that gives them their powers. That's exactly what the previous F4 movies did, they all had Doom on the same cosmic ray trip as Reed and the others, for whatever reason.

Thats a retarded idea, just have the F4 and Doom be from the present. Give Doom his journey to seek magical powers while the F4 do their space voyage. Not this stupid stuck-in-the--60s Austin Powers-tier nonsense

never read any f4 run but I liked all the team ups in spider-man comics

>Just have him somehow get frozen or travel in time too. Doom's time machine is a thing early on in the comics, and part of Kang's origin.
This is painfully stupid for reasons others said above.

you say that like they can't have character development with the kids there too

People legit like Ben for being based and a fun character and Johnny because of his relation to Spider-Man. Reed is also peak self inserter for certain kinds of people. Sue is pretty much just eye candy or used as a trophy / for race baiting / cucking nonsense though.

I just got here, but I assume the main appeal is that the f4 would have 0 connection to tony stark if they're time displaced or whatever, but if they're modern, they absolutely will make reference like "oh golly gee, he might be as smart as tony stark"

People already complain about iron-boy, do you also want reed richards to be stuck in tony's shadow too? With displaced you only need a "Hmm, howard stark? That name sounds familiar!" and then the stark name never needs to be mentioned ever again.

I bet money there's already theories on youtube about stark tower becoming the baxter building.

>you say that like they can't have character development with the kids there too
They fucking can't. Their daughter is only named Valeria because Reed's archenemy was the obstetrician. You want Reed and Sue's entire character arcs from getting their powers, their romance, fighting Doom, learning how to be parents, Doom delivering their second child, et al to be off-screen backstory that happened in the '60s and then the 7 of them got lost together in a time machine.
That's called having zero on-screen character development.

Don't forget the classic Iron-man line that kick started all.

>as if these are the first superheroes ever other than Captain America, who was more of an enhanced soldier, anyway.
Bit of a self-contradiction.

It only happened to Captain America in the MCU, plus freezing is just 1 possible way of doing it. You could use time travel or magic, multiverse travel, wormholes, etc.
>Thats a retarded idea
It makes logical sense that they could travel in time or get stuck, you just don't like it. I for one like it because I think the Fantastic Four are asociated heavily with the silver age remembered for their camp and lighthearted tone family dynamic which is at odds with the modern MCU (Wandavision aside). Whilst Spider-Man is the most famous character of the Silver Age I'd argue that the Fantastic Four best represent that era, so if any character is to have a movie take place in that era, it's them.

>Not this stupid stuck-in-the--60s Austin Powers-tier nonsense
Doesn't need to be stuck in the 60s. They could travel somehow, it doesn't really matter how if it can be explained. The point is that they start in the 60s and end up in modern day in the end. That way you get to have a different setting that fits them and gives us something new, and when they come to the modern day they bring with them their old attitudes/mannerisms which would seem goofy if their origin was in modern day. Not only does it add some humour with them saying and doing things out of place in the modern world, but it adds the opportunity for some serious storytelling too as they would probably be depressed to know things they liked have moved on and people they cared for are old or dead. Captain America had some of that, but surprisingly little imo. Again you might not like it but I would, and not liking it doesn't make it retarded.

Where's the webms tho

Shut the fuck up, f4 are great, fantastic even

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Also, I just want to clarify before anyone thinks I'm saying that it's not possible to have a modernized Fantastic Four that starts and ends in modern day. That can definitely work and I know their comics extended far beyond the silver age. I'm just saying I think that the silver age version of them is the definitive, iconic version and everything else is just an inferior imitation.

>Again you might not like it but I would, and not liking it doesn't make it retarded.
Way to not address anything I said. "it can be explained when the Fantastic 6 and Doctor Doom are introduced to the audience that they're old enemies and also Doom delivered their second child, which is why she's named Valeria after the love he lost before the time machine snafu in the '60s!"

>didn't you guys [something I didn't get] in the 60s?

Is this how they're planning on tying into Ant-man 3? They will have also been stuck in the quantum realm for decades and are rescued by scott and crew.

screenshot this
fantastic four were in the 60’s and got stuck in the quantum realm so when they appear in ant-man 3, they won’t have aged because one year = one hour

I'm a zoomer and legit love the FF. It's a fantastic fun sci-fi book, they have equal opportunity for regular super hero shenanigan stories as well as opportunity for star trek style universe exploration. I will say that for me though, the concept outweighs my love of any individual character. When DC did the Terrifics I equally enjoyed that book as I do FF. They have a great supporting cast and I mean their ideas are capable of having broad appeal, have the lore people love about R&M is shit taken from FF comics.

>Dr Doom because he either will be old as fuck or not related to Reed
Doom disappeared during college during his disfiguring experiment once the FF return from space dooms returns from hell, blaming Reed and then takes over his home country, Problem solved.

Will the same actor play the MCU Reed or was this just a variant cameo?

Yea it's been my thought for a long time. We'll the the Baxter Building appear as part of the New York Skyline at some point when it's brought back.

He wasn't a super hero just a soldier. He didn't become a super hero until 2012 when the Avengers formed.

Just another cringe quip along the lines of Tobey calling the Avengers a band in No Way Home. MCU has no originality, even their jokes are formulaic.

It opens the path to have Doctor Doom in the MCU. I could care less about the FF but Doom is pretty tied to that series.

Who knows, you had evil Strange and Mordo just being the same actor or other examples like Loki, Kang, Gamora etc but also ones that dont look the same so maybe or maybe not
Shits confusing