Marvel's equivalent to Superman

>Marvel's equivalent to Superman
>essentially the same archetype and the same morals as Superman
>Superman is irrelevant and mocked while Cap is loved and respected all over the world

How do you explain it?

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>>Superman is irrelevant and mocked

you forgot your meds

Marvel doesn't hate Captain America.

This is getting so stale. Just because a company doesn't use a character the way YOU want doesn't mean they "hate" him. Honestly, that phrase got tired quickly.

Didn't they make Ultimate Cap's son Red Skull?
Also:

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Honestly don't get the hate bonner for Supes

He's literally Batman with the ideology of Superman that's why.

You're wrong. Superman moves enough merchandise each year to buy some countries outright,

He works in the Disney style.
A square jawed noble het male just werks with the knock off whedon stuff they've been doing since...shit...Avengers 1?

Superman?
The entirity of the WB is ran by out of touch sick and objectively evil people. They don't have what it takes to make a good Superman movie.
They aren't good at pretending to be good people so they can't write that.

That's a weird attitude. Just because they don't make movies you personally like doesn't make them evil. Why would your brain even work that way?

It's easier to self insert as Cap.

He's neither character. Cap is his own concept with his own appeal.

Superman is still verifiably Superman no matter who writes him while Captain America is a traitorous douche whose opinions change with the politics of his writers.

As you should know, Captain America is hardly loved and respected all over the world, Many countries which have been exploited and victimized by the US are not going to adore a character standing as an emblem of our country,

Superman has much more international appeal;. Look up merchandise sales and how well each character's movies did in overseas markets,

Poor Steve stuck in a world with no heroes only celebrities with powers.

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honestly i've started to appreciate superman but i agree about how people genrally view him. it's because alot of young people becomes bat-fans way too quick and think superman is cheesy and boring, so he's ,mocked as the general nice guy.

>Cap doing the calm father talk gesture
Holy fuck no wonder chicks dig him

Cap's best speech, by Peter Gillis.

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try that again

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nope, still too small.

what's-a matter, pedant? gonna cry about it? gonna piss, shit, n cum?

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I am SEETHING. I can't COPE. I have been KEKED by a BASED user.

You're going to have to explain that, because that is most definitely wrong.

>How do you explain it?

Warner Brothers is incompetent.

Superman brings in more revenue each year than Captain America and has more international appeal than Cap. Warners is doing all right.

Superman is a literal god. He can do absolutely anything. He struggles, because the plot demands it, but he can solo any force in the universe. That shit is fucking boring, he's the most extreme example of why a lot of people don't like D.C.

Cap is superhuman, yeah. Super tough, super strong. But not like ultra so. He's as capable as the story needs him to be, same as any other superhero. But he's supposed to be more 'limit of human potential' rather than 'could juggle buildings if he wanted to' like others.

No, what you identify as them being the same is they are extremely upright, moral, and decidedly American. They are, as corny as we make it out to be, selfless and good to the extreme. Beyond that though they aren't really similar at all.

It's an attempt to make batman be the bad ass normal male super.
Also to make superman THE PARAGON OF NOBLE HEROIC yaddayadda.

It's an obvious dumb attempt to co-opt captain america and downplay him.

Reddit spacing.

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It's like punctuation and capitalization, not something you see here that often,

Power levels.
When Superman goes out to save lives, because he's an invulnerable immortal demigod he's not risking his life. Captain America, while the plot armor protects him is always putting his life on the line when he fights because all it would take is one stray bullet to end him.

Cap is actually the Marvel equivalent of Batman, and they both worked together in the DC vs Marvel crossover.

Bucky is a rip off of Robin and Golden Age Red Skull was a rip off of Joker.

Everyone misses the essential point of Superman. It's not how much power he has, it's how he uses to use it. He's a moral metaphor.

It's the smug aura about it.

Muh-uh. No sane one thinks like this.

Except the OP is starting from a false premise, Superman brings in more revenue and has stronger appeal worldwide than Captain America does, OP has it backwards.

Haha what if all the women in the marvel universe took the super soldier serum? Wouldn't that be so funny? Haha.

Finishing school has that effect,

Cuz Cap has those Fleischer cartoons... Wait.

Gods and characters with godlike powers tend to be assholes in the Marvel Universe. Magneto, Ikaris, Scarlet Witch, Hyperion etc. While the heroes tend to be normal people with suits of armor (Iron Man) or special skills (Hawkeye) or slightly empowered people who can do some things, but not level cities with their minds. It's the exact opposite with DC comics. The godlike characters in DC tend to be inherently heroic and good and beyond things like temptation and the corrupting nature of power.

Marvel knows that while with great power comes great responsibility. You give someone enough power? They wouldn't be responsible with it. They understand the flawed human nature and it keeps their characters relatable and guarantees their success. DC doesn't, and that's why they fail.

Captain America starred in the biggest box office smash in human history. Superman did the exact opposite. The biggest supehrero movie bomb in film history. If that isn't an indictment of the failure of Superman as a character and his current relevance in pop culture and world recognition I don't know what the fuck is.

Shulkie looks god-awful in the fifth panel.
Like a midget but her torso is properly sized.

>How do you explain it?
Chris Evans is charismatic and was blessed with successful directors.
Don't think of comic books as relevant to the reception of superheroes.

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That and Marvel movies are all inherently comedies with relatively low stakes. Unlike DC which takes itself waaaaay too fuckin seriously. That's like trying to make a serial killer Bugs Bunny movie.

Marvel hired a 3rd string artist, Quesada needed the money for coke.

Nigga, the entire page looks like dogshit.

Yeah, obviously.
It's just that the proportions are so shit, I couldn't focus on anything but that panel.

kek

Because Superman is a total Mary Sue and perfect in every way

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No, the Avengers movie was that smash. What were the numbers on CAPTAIN AMERICA - THE FIRST AVENGER in comparison,

Follow this: How a movie performs is not the same as how much merchandise a character sells. Merchandise is the tail that wags the dog. How a movie performs doesn't determine how well a character generates revenue worldwide, Okay?

This is true. Comics fans are a tiny little percentage of the population. Making movies aimed at fans would bankrupt studios and end careers, Movies have to appeal to the general public to make a profit.

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Superman is an Illegal Alien.

Because all this comic shit comes 100% down to exposure, MCU, cartoons and w/e have been in Marvels favour for quite some time. Meanwhile WB/DC are stuck with CW shows and limping along their universe.

Actually does.
Exposure in media informs the public of a character.
It's what sells a fucking intellectual property.

CREATING SHIT MEDIA TO SHILL THAT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY DAMAGES THE MARKETABILITY OF THE MERCH YOU SILLY BINT
Captain marvel made a billion but the merch still sits on the shelves even today.

CHILE, HUSH. The Carol Danvers merchandise not selling indicates that the character might get another movie but will likely be dropped.

As long as we're play stuck keyboard keys, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO ;PRODUCE SHIT MOVIES, YOU ABSOLUTE STILLBIRTH. THEY'RE TRYING DIFFERENT GIMMICKS TO SEE IF ANYTHING WORKS.

It's not like a team of marketing drones at Warners says, "that one guy on Yea Forums knows what's good but never mind him. Let's make a movie that's bad and shoot ourselves in the foot."

It's like pouring water over a rock talking to you guys,

Warners and DC are hauling in warehouses full of money selling toys, games, posters, masks, etc featuring those characters, Fanboys never see that's where the revenue is

Oh fuck off with this fanboy shit user, the question wasn't about revenue or budgets, so I don't know why you are replying to me. I was fully referring to a kind of public perception here. The archetype that Captain America fits in public perception is successful as a result of media exposure from the MCU. Saying that, does not mean I am dismissing WB/DC making money from merchandise etc. As a comic writer once said, a pair of Batman pants probably outsells all the comics. That's clear. WB/DC are still chasing that MCU formula success when it comes to their movies though, regardless of how well their films are doing or not doing, that's 100% obvious. But the issue was in regards to say the average person and their view of the characters.