>What it was hinted to be.
The Avatar Spirit is the spirit of the world, tethered to human reincarnation as to never become aloof and keep connected to realm it guardians over, feeling love, loss and the spectrum of human emotion.
>What we got
The Good™ magic kite sprint of light got fused to a human by accident once in the past while saving the universe from ten thousand years of darkness™
Lore downgrades?
Lore downgraded
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Hinted to be =/= Is
Correct
Hinted to be > Is
Incorrect. You're treating a matter of opinion as a fact. It's not.
>You're treating a matter of opinion as a fact
where do you think we are?
So you're saying you're intentionally being dumb?
i'm expressing my opinion through bog standard hyperbole that you insist on taking literally.
who's really being dumb here?
You insisted it as a fact in the OP, retard.
cool, you don't know what hyperbole means. read a book.
None of that was hinted at
What we got was good
You cannot say with a straight face that it was not in fact a downgrade.
>None of that was hinted at
do you want sources?
You presented your opinion as fact and got defensive as Fort McHenry in 1814. You then backpedaled to "It'S jUsT hYpErBoLe" when I pointed out your idiocy.
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or if you want direct show material, yangchen's speech in the finale.
Yes it was.
you know what, it is fact, as much as a subjective opinion can be.
Isn't funny how the first Avatar was a Firebender who encountered Air Benders and in The Last Airbender the Fire Nation destroyed the Air Nomads while the Avatar was an Air Bender? Talk about ironic.
Where?
That explanation from Yangchen still works with the "What we got". The only aspect that it doesn't talk about is the "It's the spirit of the world". The only connection to that is the fact that they can bend the four elements, but that's a loose to non-existent connection because they are not the spirit of the world nor was there any implication that they were.
In fact, S1 E7 states that the Avatar is the connection between the human world and the spirit world, which gives more credence to the "What we got".
>it is fact
No, what is better or worse is always a matter of opinion. Especially in storytelling.
a random accident does not make for a good cosmological origin myth
it was not even hinted at it would happen beyond meta knowledge, wan and raava had no agency about it happening, or it continuing.
"It just happened that way because we got to get to what happens in the show we're doing a prequel of" is shit writing
Cope
>joy...
>...and happiness
Nigga how about you fuck off
Isn't it in the name? It's an avatar. An earthly form of some kind of spiritual higher power.
What random accident are you talking about? Wan and Raava becoming the first Avatar? If so, by that logic, then you also have a problem with LOTR, Superman landing on Earth, and honestly damn near every piece of fiction ever written that has a "from humble origins" aspect.
We also got the Amon fiasco.
the koh theory would have been 100%better.
>The Diamonds just spontaneously poofed into being after a few random meteors crashlanded on Homeworld
This drives me up the fucking wall
>Superman landing on Earth was an accident
please vacate the premises, we don't accept your kind here.
>it was not even hinted at it would happen beyond meta knowledge
The Avatar's origin was never broached in the first series either. They just accepted it. No one in this thread has shown any tie to this "They hinted that it's the Earth" bullshit.
>LOTR
>literally the most detailed work of of fiction when it comes to world-building, the mythology of the world and past that resulted into the setting the story takes place on
>accident
either you're being retarded on purpose or are somehow picking the worse examples possible to defend your point.
How did the ring get destroyed? When Bilbo stole it from Gollum.
How did Bilbo find Gollum? By accident.
I preemptively accept your apology, retard.
Kansas, not Earth.
>Metropolis is Kansas City
I'm nottalking about what city Superman patrols. I'm talking about his origin, you fucking dumbass.
you're the kind of retard who actually thinks the eagle argument is a clever gotcha against LOTR.
the korra retcon was lame but you're just making shit up about what it was supposed to be
I didn't even mention the eagles. Not a good deflection, but you're already apologized, so whatever.
Where do people get the first thing? All I remember from the show is that the Avatar is the bridge between the Spirit World and Human World and master of four elements to solve global or small crisis. That's it.
>Where do people get the first thing?
From their headcanons; Which is the only sign you need to not engage with the retarded.
>Where do people get the first thing?
over a decade of headcanon they refuse to let go of
The face of autism
>HEADCANON OPINION IS FACT!
>No, it's not and you're wrong.
>AD HOMINEM!!!
Every time.
Still waiting to be proven wrong, dumbass...
Disingenuous.
Clark's character is an important part of the Superman mythos, and that includes his origin as a Kansas farmer boy, from it's very start and it actually a common what if, changing it vastly changes superman's history.
wan and ravaa are an addon to badly explain an origin that doesn't manage to stand well on its own and could be interchangeable with multitude others without impacting what we see in the original series.
>Clark's character is an important part of the Superman mythos, and that includes his origin as a Kansas farmer boy, from it's very start and it actually a common what if, changing it vastly changes superman's history.
Correct, because my point wasn't to denounce any of that. My point is that his landing in Kansas was an accident.
wan and ravaa are an addon to badly explain an origin that doesn't manage to stand well on its own and could be interchangeable with multitude others without impacting what we see in the original series.
Entirely opinion.
Oldfag here.
if I'm not mistaken this theory can be traced back to the title card, which can be roughly translated into "The spirit of the world made manifest"
so, kinda far out there.
>That explanation from Yangchen still works with the "What we got".
no it doesn't
how can you be proven wrong on a subjective discussion dear dumb-ass?
you don't know anything about mythology, fag
>ying yang complementary duality turned into generic light vs dark.
raava and vaatu were fucking dumb give the source they were taking inspiration from.
season 2 of lok is the literal rock bottom of the animated franchise.
wanna bet?
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It's literally Avatar, or more broadly, an godly person who has come to Earth with powers.
Keyword: come to Earth. Not of the Earth.
>no it doesn't
How does it not?
Opinion =/= Fact isn't subjective, sweet retard.
The Avatar and the avatar spirit are basically a deity in the ATLA world.
while you can make good stories with accidental as a crucial plot point, the origin of what is basically reincarnating kung-fu God being just a random dude Mr. Magooing his way to demi-godhood feels really underwhelming.
I'm a relativist, everything is subjective to me.
Then again, the "from humble origins" isn't for you then.
They have literal opposing definitions. There is no "grey area", no "relative to what?" here.
Ok, lets see what was known during ATLA's, with no extras.
>The Avatar is the titular "Bridge between worlds". This supposedly confers a degree of authority over spirits, and thus is revered by the 4 nations. He is a guardian of balance of the world, not just between spirits and humans, but between the different cultures in the ATLA world.
>This bridge status allows the avatar to interact with powerful spirits, even those that are basically a fundamental constant in-universe (moon and ocean), implying the Avatar spirit is no slouch either.
>The Avatar spirit reincarnates into a human of each nation following a cycle. Only the avatar can bend the 4 elements.
>The Avatar can contact and manifest their previous lives.
>The power of the Avatar state comes from the cumulative experience and power of all previous avatars.
>If the avatar dies while in the avatar state, the reincarnation cycle ends.
>the Avatar did not exit at some point, it came to be in the distant past.
did I miss anything important?