>Serious Sonic stories are...le bad!!
>Just because...they are!!!
Serious Sonic stories are...le bad!!
Nolan Murphy
Tyler Davis
I don't care about your premise. I just want to say that Swatbots are based and underrated characters
Jacob Allen
Luis Green
If games are like $60 most fans of a franchise have spent 100s on the franchise over the years I would imagine
Easton Brooks
This the biggest cope image I've ever seen in my life.
Anthony James
Literally only bad when penned by Penders and/or Bollers.
Flynn? Kino. Kitching? Kino. Maekawa? Kino. Hurst? Kino.
Even fucking Gallagher managed to write a better serious story than those two (Mecha Madness)
Connor Reyes
>and/or Bollers
I'd argue Bollers had some fun stuff like Return to Angel Island or Tossed in Space,
Justin Price
how many times are you gonna make this thread only to get the same exact responses every time, go outside dude
Oliver Foster
not an argument I accept your concession
Levi Cox
This is now a Karin Kanzuki Thread
Grayson Bell
Adrian Hughes
Parker Davis
Charles Anderson
Spamming off-topic is not an argument
Angel Jackson
Liam Butler
okay
Brayden Cook
Ian Gray
Carter Wright
Angel Richardson
fine ill give you an argument retard:
sonic absolutely can work with a darker and more serious story which has been proven multiple times in the past with the adventure games, parts of 06, and a lot of the comics. the problem arises when its done poorly, and a lot of the times it is done VERY poorly(shadow the hedgehog, penders, a lot of 06, forces). when writing a darker sonic story you have to remember that youre writing a story for fucking sonic the hedgehog so you have to strike a balance, nobodys gonna take your story seriously if you make a sonic version of the killing joke for example. but you already knew all this, youre just a faggot fishing for replies so here you go
Owen Myers
Jose Torres
Stop giving him his dopamime retard.
Landon Murphy
Austin Wilson
Jack Sullivan
Ethan Cook
Do you believe the picture you always use helps your argument?
Grayson Cox
Isaiah Ward
>nobodys gonna take your story seriously if you make a sonic version of the killing joke
Why not? Batman is a rich guy in a bat costume who fights a clown. It is no more inherently serious or silly than a Hedgehog fighting a Robotic Dictator.
Killing joke could easily work if you wrote it right in Soni
David Perry
Jordan Baker
sorry bro just had to sperg for a minute
Cameron Howard
Wyatt Kelly
This. It's just thought terminating cliches and lack of suspension of disbelief.
Brandon Watson
Andrew Jones
Wyatt Bailey
Isaac Sanders
Wyatt Reed
Josiah Nguyen
Adrian Perry
Julian Gray
Joshua Reyes
Oliver Hall
Nicholas Taylor
James Morgan
>ThinkingOptimusBeastWars.png
this again?
Adam Taylor
You're right, user. We need a 18+ Rouge The Bat graphic novel with drawn sex scenes.
Kevin Martinez
Why not? Why stop creativity?
Zachary Thomas
What did Sonic understand about war? Answer me that, OP
Jason Mitchell
Video essays belong on the left
Jackson Baker
>Why stop creativity?
Creativity isn't inherently positive or negative, it's neutral. Execution determines quality, not inception. A better writer can make a Sonic war story work. But you're not defending good ones.
Justin Long
Are you trying to compete with the "WHY DID X DO GREAT WHILE Y WAS SHIT" threads for worst continuous schizo or what?
Michael Wilson
Not all of them. Some are pretty pro sonic, like lore deep dives.
Xavier Richardson
Glad you approve of Rouge's fully-drawn breeding rape scene.
Gavin Wilson
why are sonicfags so autistic
Angel Lewis
Would you watch a story where Bugs Bunny kills Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam by snapping their necks?
Bentley Watson
Why is that your only comparison is stuff like bugs bunny and pop culture and not actually good children's stories?
Nathan Gonzalez
Hunter Gutierrez
Because the Sonic/Eggman dynamic is entirely a Looney Tunes scenario.
Sonic the Hedgehog is a smartass woodland creature that doesn't take anything seriously and enjoys eating junk food while making quips. He used a Dragonball Z parody to take out the Star Wars parody built by Fat Scientist Yosemite Sam and instead of being a one-shot joke like when Bugs Bunny dressed as Superman, it turned into the cornerstone of the entire lore where the universe is constantly in peril from humorless all powerful superbeings that happen to resemble Cartoon Hedgehog People.
The Sonic franchise is basically what would happen if you let a Snyderfag go back in time and decide that every Looney Tunes cartoon needed to be some grim and humorless Meatcanyon take on Super Rabbit.
John Richardson
I mean, that comic is its own beast but you could probably count that one where elmer fights batman.
Still, its not the same as ken penders' usual delusional shite since they took the effort to write elmer in a way that fits
Benjamin Evans
>Inspiration or homage decides how a tone should be
Tell me how I know you're retarded.
Lincoln Foster
It's about the framing. Why should I take Sonic seriously when he's a character incapable of taking anything seriously? The only reason he's outlived any of his imitators from the 90s is because he was first.
Carter Ortiz
Bollers is actually good, though. Just a really unfortunate writer who had to power through the Dark Age.
Parker Nguyen
>Why should I take Sonic seriously when he's a character incapable of taking anything seriously?
This the entirely americanized version of Sonic. In Japan and in the Japanese game manuals, he only was humorous in humorous situations. He takes everything else seriously when the moment calls for it. But I know that you're just going to ignore this and spout another mountain of uniformed bad faith arguments because actually engaging with what I'm saying is too much for you.
Ryan Gonzalez
Ah yes, the grimly serious content that is the Sonic OVA.
Mason Morris
I approve
Jeremiah Garcia
>No actual argument
My prediction was correct it seems
Levi Reyes
>Ah yes, the grimly serious content that is the Sonic OVA.
I think that user is referring solely to the games, which have always been more complex in Japan than in the west. Just look at Sonic CD and it's post apocalyptic bad futures.
Charles Perry
What benefit does Sonic gain from being serious? Is there some unexplored narrative that only Sonic can tell or are you just an insecure manbaby that's tired of being called an autist for liking a blue cartoon hedgehog that fights robots and eats chilidogs?
Joseph Long
Guys you could
I don't know
Stop giving the autist replies and giving him dopamine rushes