/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

FEMALE AUTHORS EDITION
>What are you reading?
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
>Are there any good modern female writers?

Monthly Reading for April: We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

Monthly Reading books: drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
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Flowchart:
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Science Fiction:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously:

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Other urls found in this thread:

web.archive.org/web/20160307070541/http://www.torbooks.co.uk/blog/2013/07/10/sexism-in-genre-publishing-a-publishers-perspective
unsong.libsyn.com
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_of_Heaven
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Are there any female Hard SF authors? It's probably the single most male dominated (fans and authors alike) genre so it would be interesting to see a female take on the genre.

>Are there any female Hard SF authors?
Quite a few pre-70s.

I've heard of Elizabeth Moon, but I haven't tried her. Hard scifi is already an extremely niche genre, I can't imagine that it sells too well.

Uklg

WTF? Have I been meme'd into reading Kane? Fuck you faggots.

In the first story I read, Kane is the biggest cucklord of all cucklords. His woman goes around town fucking strangers over and over and he allows it because he loves her.

In the second story I read, Kane is the midget sidekick bitch to a giant who dies fighting while Kane watches like a little bitch instead of helping him. His only contribution in the story is to moan and whine.

You assholes keep talking about manly protagonists and how nobody writes good ones anymore and THIS is your frame of reference?

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Judith Merril
Clare Winger Harris
Miriam Allen deFord
Gertrude Barrows Bennett

>It's probably the single most male dominated (fans and authors alike)
Horror has proportionally more male writers.
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Have you tried reading Boku no Pico?

How much would people call me on my bullshit if I write a book where the main character is a human-chameleon capable of changing form at will?
I know
>tleilaxu face dancers
But I really, REALLY motherfucking love the concept of such a creature.
Well, I'm already almost finished with the book, but I have finished a second rereading of the dune series and it seems that the concept is already done and perfected and people would just jump on me for stealing.

She writes Military sci-fi, wouldn't say it's hard though. She served in Marine Corps so she knows her shit so she knows her shit from an armed forces point of view and it comes across in her books.

Thanks for the names and thanks also for the link.

>Le Guin
>Fantasy
Le Guin was anything but SF and fantasy. The only thing she did was to push her bullshit feminist hippie agenda and promoting that cancer as new age literature.

but you could pick up any of these, as they're all self-contained stories.

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Another reason horror is the best genre.

>new age literature
Amen. Post-Yourcenar madness. Women and Spirituality, amirite ? Une vilaine chose.

Agreed. Le Guin is just post-modern literature veiled under fantasy genre.

>Denisovan type
I see you are a joe rogan fag.

So you're the faggot that renames those open mouth male pics to some shit, then posts it when someone talks about kane and conan.

>I'M SO TRIGGERED, TRIGGERED BY EVERYTHING I WET MY NAPPY
You know what /pol/tards and SJW retards have in common?

>pulling the /pol/ card
wew.

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>bullshit feminist
Means you are a /pol/tard.
>altright nazi
Means you are a tumblr retard.
Get that right in your triggered cunny?

You should stick to Sanderson, incel.

>In the first story I read, Kane is the biggest cucklord of all cucklords. His woman goes around town fucking strangers over and over and he allows it because he loves her.
lol that's not true at all.
>In the second story I read, Kane is the midget sidekick bitch to a giant who dies fighting while Kane watches like a little bitch instead of helping him. His only contribution in the story is to moan and whine.
Also not true. Did you just skim through these while jerking off to Blacked?

She is the epitome of everything that went wrong with SF&F.

>incel
>not wanting a woman who openly cuckolds you makes you an incel
I never read any Howard or Wagner books, but if this is the mentality it's fans has, I don't think I ever will. With all the recent shilling I was going to pick it up, but this will make me strike it off my reading list.

If you can't read classics, then why don't you stick to Harry Potter, faggot?

samefag

Imagine having this much of a triggered inferiority complex. Here's your (You)

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You are very retarded and I don't you want anywhere near Howard or Wagner's books. Context is everything and since this retarded faggot couldn't grasp the context of the story, or even the character of Kane himself, I'm sure you will be no different. So yes you should stick to reading stories written for children like the schlock Sanderon writes. Those are much, MUCH simpler for you idiots to understand.

>Disliking some cuck shit makes me an incel and a sandafag lover
Kane fag retarded logic at its best.

>lol that's not true at all.
Have you even read the short stories, that's exactly what happens. If anything this is proof you fags don't even read the shit you shill. kys

>but muh context

>Dragar's calloused hand imprisoned her slender wrist as she sought to rise from the rumpled bed. "Don't prance away like a contrite virgin, girl. Your rider has dismounted but for a moment's rest—then he's ready to gallop through the palace gates another time or more, before the sun drops beneath the sea." "Pretty, but I have to go," she protested. "Kane may grow suspicious..."

lol you are so goddamn stupid. You really don't understand the context at all do you? I mean... AT ALL. Either you are genuinely stupid, or skimmed through the story, or didn't even finish it. Could be all of the above though I guess. Either way you're definitely retarded.

To expound on this: Kane is the VILLAIN of the story. His SLAVE is trying to escape him and does so by attempting to seduce men to help her. If you can't see this obvious context then you are beyond help. This isn't some cuckold fetish shit you think it is. It's a tale of a woman trying to escape an evil man and trying to enlist the help of other men by seducing them.

Also Kane DOES NOT love her. He has enslaved her for her companionship. Kane is incapable of loving anyone or anything.

Oh and the story with the giant? Kane was injured and trapped so he couldn't have helped the fucking giant, you moron.

Predictions for the final installment of the Firefall trilogy?
Here goes:
>Set several years after Blindopraxia
>Humans have completely lost control of vampires
>Portia running amok on Earth
>Remnants of the major governments moved to nearby colonies (the moon, stations, mars, planetary moons and asteroid belt)
>'Siri' returns and a recovered Jim Moore is at first overjoyed, but realises that it's not the same Siri that left on Theseus; Rorschach has gutted him or is mind controlling him or just straight up built a simulacrum
>First vampire child is born (not sure if major or minor plot point, but in there to show that the crucifix glitch, the alpha-cadherin pathway and the hardwired aggression have all been overcome or edited out of the vampire biology)

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You need this, user. Apply liberally, until attitude change.

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Imagine being this much of a fucking retard that you're clueless about the shit you shill.

She's not his slave and Kane keeps her close because she will literally fucking die if she leaves him and it's implied that she has fucked a lot of different men over time and Kane allows it because it amuses her to taunt him and her amusement is reason enough for him to let her do as she wants.

Just admit you like reading cuck shit user.

>Oh and the story with the giant? Kane was injured and trapped so he couldn't have helped the fucking giant, you moron.

He wasn't trapped, just useless. Be truthful user, have you read the story or just skimmed it? This is straight from the book, before the fight.

>Dwassllir shoved his torch farther down the passage, then bent to Kane. A heave of his mighty shoulders drew back the imprisoning stone.

More proof that you're a brainlet shilling garbage,

>kane and conan shills btfo
Damn. Today is a good day. I got to fuck this bitch that was teasing me for a year and now the homoerotic faggot soiboi shill gets btfo.

>She's not his slave and Kane keeps her close because she will literally fucking die if she leaves him
She is his slave, you fucking idiot, and she has no idea she'll die if she leaves him. Kane literally stops her from leaving with the men she seduces until Kane finally had enough and told her to fuck off. He didn't love her; he just enjoyed her companionship until it became too much of a hassle even for him. And like I said; you don't even understand the context of Kane's character. Kane wouldn't give a shit about her sleeping with other men in and of itself because Kane has no feelings towards her. He's a villainous immortal incapable of love and couldn't care less about jealousy.
>He wasn't trapped, just useless.
>DURR OKAY YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT F-FUCK YOU
Seriously; stick to Sanderson. If something like Kane is 2deep4u then you're better off reading only plebbit recommendations.

>too stupid to understand context
>I SURE SHOWED DEMZ
lol

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anyone can tackle this dilemma?

Is this what I have to use to get the audio version of this book? unsong.libsyn.com

>such seething that you just keep repeating sanderson like it's some insult
Seething

Hello

Last thread before discussion, get hype!

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>Kane wouldn't give a shit about her sleeping with other men
Guys...should we tell him?

Besides, you're the dumb fuck that insisted that Kane didn't help the giant because he was trapped, your words not mine.
What actually happened was Kane stood and watched with a sword in his hand because he was scared shitless while the based giant fought barehanded (because he gave up his axe earlier to save Kane) against a giant sabercat, killed it and died from the battle wounds.
Truly the manliest of protagonists. What a shame they don't write them like that any more.

How is the wagner shill still breathing?

The amount of liberal studiesfags in this thread is astounding.

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Saw this shilled here a while back. I'm about to start, what am I in for?

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le guin is not hard sci fi

~1800s america on a different planet. lots of warfare and tacticool historical shit. bit of romance and introducing chemistry to said primitives.

>if you don't like pol you're a liberal
>if you don't like pol you something else political
Kys now.

Bpoks thats capture this aesthetic 5his kind lf sci fi

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Ada Palmer, though it's not strictly hard science fiction but hard humanities fiction.

I guess it is
Watts -> Hard biological scifi
Reynolds -> Hard physics scIfi
Palmer -> Hard Humanities scifi

Didn't realise it we were finishig before the end of the month. Guess I should start it then.
>221 pages
>20 page introduction
I think I'll be fine.

>MC fucks a 15 year old and then ends up eating her
What the fuck did I just get myself into?

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Ok, it was just those first couple NOT SFF stories jammed in at the beginning that weren't for me. The rest is decent.

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>eating your own cum from a used snatch.

LeGuin was good until she started writing androphobic propaganda.

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Her early stuff was pretty good, but then she started on that man hating propaganda, like retconning the Earthsea universe to make all men evil and all women their perpetual victims...

Andrew Rowe and Will Wight are the same person. Does he have any other pseudonyms?

Just wait until you get to bloodstone, Kane doesn't conquer the world with an army of slave lizardmen because hes too busy beta orbiting a stronk woman who is a bigger badass on the battlefield than all the men

>Andrew Rowe and Will Wight
Bullshit

So, I've found with my writing - people really like how I do characters and descriptions of people, but one thing that I think I lack is the ability to paint a vista.

Mainly, because I don't know the words for things. I don't know the names of different formations of trees and rocks. I don't know the terms for different kinds of ceilings or windows or structures. I don't know my cisterns from sewers. My parts of a city.

Is there a good cheat sheet for stuff like that? I need to learn how to describe places.

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second bump for this.

How would you go around writing a main character that has the ability to completely change their appearance? How do you avoid it being endlessly compared to tleilaxu face dancers of Dune? How do you tackle their origins? Mythological fae creatures? Genetically altered beasts? Aliens?

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Well, if we blast through the thread I guess it'll be the thread after the next but they usually last a couple of days.

>What are you reading?
The Doomed City by the Strugatsky brothers.
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
Image related.
>Are there any good modern female writers?
Ada Palmer.

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William D Arand and Randi Darren are the same person.

I think Andrew Rowe is what will uses for his faggot books. Like how William uses Randi for his perversions.

>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.

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Is Mists of Avalon that good, then? I've been looking to read into the Arthurian mythos, and am looking for a great starting point. Also I haven't read any lady authors since I was like 14 lol

Why is it okay to write heterosexual propaganda but not androphobic propaganda?

Hating Le Guin and her shitty lukewarm feminist "fantasy" literature has nothing to do with /pol/ you sperg. I simply don't like her prose. Why is this too hard to comprehend for you?

What's the Primer equivalent of /ssfg/? AKA a complex and grounded time-travel story.

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Darkover,maybe
Leigh Brackett,Tanith Lee,C.J Cherryh,Jo Walton,Andre Norton.Space fantasy had a lot of female authors,specially back in the dinodays.
Also play Star Ocean or Rogue Galaxy for vydia

You dumbfucks realise these people actually go to cons and shit right? If you're going to spin autistic conspiracy theories at least make sure they can't be disproven with 10 seconds of research.

Speaking of pseudonyms, Miles/Christian Cameron are the same cuck faggot but that's well known around here I think.
Another one I know, Daniel Abraham(Long Price Quartet) is James SA Corey (Expanse)

pic related

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Heterosexual propaganda at least has a plausible outcome in fantasy genre.

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Someone recommended 'A soldier's Duty' last thread to someone else asking for military science fiction I think it was, and I read it.
It was kind of shitty. Do noy recommend.

I hope user is around to see this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_of_Heaven

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>heterosexual propaganda
It doesn't exist

ignore the guy. hes posting almost every other thread about how william d. arand is every author ever.
funnily enough. william is randi darren. thats about it though. most all indie authors on amazon know each other. william d. arand, daniel shinhofen, will wight and blaise corvin once were at the same dragoncon.

is this the part of Yea Forums with the least number of pretentious wannabe writers?(actually just failures in the making)

>what is sanderson
Literal mormon preaching about the benefits of a cis marriage.

So I am reaching a point where I have a pile of finished short stories, a finished manuscript, and a mostly finished second one. How do I actually go about trying to get these published? Is there a guide anywhere or is the best way literally just sending out fleets of emails?

I was making a deliberately sarcastic remark to note the similarity between their works, and in hopes to get recommendations.
But I suppose you are too stupid to consider the possibility that anything may have a different meaning besides the literal one, you dumb fuck.

It used to be.

What changed?

The strength of the peasantry failed and they were no longer chased out.

The only wannabe writer we tolerate here is birdboi.

i dont get it

Yes, because our wannabe writers are autistic rather than pretentious.

The walls were breached
their ruins lay
unseemly heap
despised of all
trod underfoot
barbarian horde
master now the keep

Literally everytime birboi comes up, the discussion goes like this:

1) OH LOOK AT WHAT BIRBOI HAS BEEN DOING ON WORLDBUILDING DISCORD AGAIN HAHA
2) >1 No one cares
3) >1 *Some generic question about birboi*
4) >2 Fuck off
5) >PRAISE BIRDBOI
6) >1, >2, >3, >4, >5 Am birdboi. I have overstayed my welcome, please do not talk about me.

Good Lord, that cover is hideous.

I honestly can not tell why birdboi spammer continues to post about him when the guy himself asks people not to.

Paul Atreides
>muh jihad
Elric of Melniboné
>muh Cymoril
Tyrion Lannister
>muh wits

What else?

The first part of your statement answers the second part. This is Yea Forums, buddy.

Whilst reading Malazan I picked up a lot of words for shit like that. It was just about the only use I got out of those books.

yeah same problem here mate. i can't for the life of me describe a fucking mountain, river or vale, not to mention castles and houses.

>The mountain is large much like a hill isn't.
There, done.

>Bought R.A. Laffertys short stories
>Every story has an introduction

Hate this shit, if you took them out I could get a another story or two.

but that's poor writing, user.

>thinking that is poor writing
That's high art fag.

I personally think it's incredible. It have beautiful imagery and one of my favourite depictions of magic.

I can’t write characters, and I can’t describe people, but above all, I can’t describe locations. My advice for you is to set your entire story in an endless void which your characters tumble through aimlessly, and indefinitely. Nobody cares whether your characters fuck on the side of a cool mountain or in the void, so just set it in the void. I myself have written thousands of stories in the void. It’s also a good narrative tool, because you can just have the characters float away from each other when you want a scene to end. Removing the restrictions of three-dimensional space makes writing a lot easier.

I was the "hello pol" pic.
Anyone that talks about pull in a positive light is pol, it had nothing to do with the original statement. It was the
>pulling the /pol/ card
Post that made me post

>AKA a complex and grounded time-travel story.
The stars my Destination.

>trench coat
Which one of you was this? I bet you had a fedora too.

What happened? You used to be able to spoiler each word in a sentence years ago, now the spoiler gets broken.

Howaboutthis?

are andrew and will actually friends? I read that advanced magic series from rowe and enjoyed it well enough to just roll my eyes during all the SJW fag shit. Funny reading all the amazon comments about people feeling the same way. At least if will shares the same views he doesn't incorporate them into his books.

How do The Long Tomorrow, and Black God's Kiss stack up on the decent-amazing axis?

Also, of those eight books posted, which would you say is the best and which is the worst?

am I the only one who saw that robe and thought >TN: Menacing

also, what the fuck happened to my newline

Whole thread was some retarded ass /pol/ talk
/sffg/ going to shit

Based
That's what happens when the Dinogang and the Zoomergang fight.

Hmm let's see if it works.

>spaces
YOUSUCK

Maybe that was the problem before.

Let me see if this works.

Don't know what happened with then.

You just don't know how to do this.

What amazon work are you guys expecting next month?

WOLFED!

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[spouler]yes[/spoler] [poiler]I[/spolier] [spheuler]Do[/touler]

Not how you do it.

watched the dune movie in preparation for reading the books but I really didnt' like how the bad guy was literally a fucking evil gay(aids included) caricature. literally like stopped watching the movie midway through because it was just too much

is it the same in the books?

NK Jemisin

No. The Baron is a scheming smart evil guy. Though the first book is not even the best out of the 6. If you can easily read through the first book, most of what comes afterwards would feel good and fulfilling.
I finished the first book in a day though.

Hope the new Dune movie won't suck ass dicks.

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>literally like stopped watching the movie midway through because it was just too much
Are you a butt boy? Didn't like how they portrayed your faggot ilk?
That is how the world sees you and your fellow bedmates.

WE WUZ LOVECRAFT

>seething this much

>>seething this much

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i'm a straight woman

it's just that i have compassion and principles

can I do it? Can I be the one saying it?

L

Go back to discord tranny you aren’t fooling anyone

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Note to the one making the future OPs
NEVER fucking tackle a political subject like women writers and shit. This one has been one of the less constructive and interesting threads we've had in a long time. Just a bunch of idiots throwing buzzwords at eachother. Fuck you all, absolute glue-drinkers

They’re nothing healthier than a heterosexual marriage. And there’s no such thing as cis

How Gary Stu is Linley throughout Coiling Dragon? I'm okay with him being super strong because he trains so much but is he going to trounce everything he comes first try across or

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>sanderson has become so poor at releasing works that people actually want to read that cosmerefag had to resort to reading wuxia webnovels
Sad.

damn, your picture reminded me how fucking good was Elantris even though it's sanderson cliche royale 101

More like what I read when taking a break from the Dick.

SEQUELS NEVER EVER

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All the amazon indie authors in this genre who have “made it” know each other to one degree or another.

Gays can be evil too user.

was just thinking about tolkien and why i don't enjoy his works, and i came to the realization that i don't like his stuff because it's not couched in reality. i know they're fantasy books so that's weird but he doesn't do much to flesh out the world. like why does he never mention how big aragorn's penis is? why don't we ever get any scenes of the hobbits going through mundane stuff like taking shits or filing their taxes?

It's because tolkien's shit is dated as fugg :DDD

Here's a chart an user was working on long time back.

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Someone post catfag's female author chart.

Low tier bait. Have a (You).

Got any pulp recommendations

No C.L Morre?

Oh yeah, I forgot, haven't posted it in a while. Only the first part though.

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>no Leigh Brackett
>no CL Moore
>no Tanith Lee
What a shit fucking list.

It's obviously not exhaustive. We'd love to see any new charts if you want to rectify these oversights :3

Darkness Weaves by Karl Edward Wagner.

I'd rather rectify your booty.

Social science is science.

I just finished the first one. Which one is better? I asked in the previous thread where should I stop with the sequels. God Emperor of Dune maybe?

Has anyone read this? The premise is very interesting, thinking of giving it a go.

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Yeah, but it's been a while. I don't remember disliking it. I vaguely recall there being less scifi than the cover indicates.

>read good recs about Desolate Era
>just read FOURTEEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY CHAPTERS FUCK YOU
>do it bro
fuck you

>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
>tfw C.S. Friedman wrote two great trilogies and then fell off the face of a cliff and was never heard from again

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I'm sorry user, I'm the one who keeps shilling Desolate Era here, although its been a while.

Don't remember how many chapters it has but I do recommend finishing it if you haven't as the last 25% or so(Nuwa arc) is fucking epic.

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Oh I haven't even started it. I just got to v4 of Coiling Dragon and I was on the hunt for whatever else he wrote with familiar names. That's too long, maybe in the far future but no time soon.
I forget: is CD wuxia or xianxia? I'm still a bit unfamiliar with the terms.

Dunno, didn't last very long in CD, wasn't for me. Does it have cultivation/daoism/taosim shit? Then it's xianxia if not it's probably wuxia or xuanhuan.
Check novelupdates, it's like goodreads for chinkshit, you'll get an accurate answer. They even define genres iirc, making them easier to understand.

Get off Yea Forums and get back to writing, George.

History will judge Villeneuve to be this generation’s Kubrick. Even if the writing is weak, the cinematography will be fucking incredible.

Based chart and based covers.
Why can't book covers be like this anymore?
every bookcover now has a hooded dude dual-wielding

Stop reading fantasy then, you fucking faggot

Hey nerds, I need your spookiest sci-fi horror and/or cosmic horror
GIVE ME YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS

The Broadsword by Laird Barron.

Nightingale by Alastair Reynolds

>dude
Don't be a bigot, this is the female authors edition. Girls can wear hoods and dual wield too.

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It's okay if mommy maas does it

Abbo denisovans are worse than niggers

Based cuckhunter

Cringe samefagging antibirdboyists
Day of the beak is coming.

Holy shit, I remember that guy. Anyone have his Arthurian chart?

Isn't xianxia anything with batshit crazy powerlevels and wuxia more grounded (relatively)?

>Based cuckhunter

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Question for the fantasy people: Is Ivanhoe worth trying to read? Kino fantasy?

Recommend me some comfy fantasy please.
I know comfy is sort of a buzzword, basically I want to read something lighthearted in which characters have (mostly) a good time. Think that chapter of Fellowship of the Ring in which they describe their stay in Rivendel.

The Ecology of the Unicorn by Schuyler Hernstrom.

The shills have won me over, what am I in for? I haven't read all that much fantasy.

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You need to trade that in for the Del Rey collections instead.

Villeneuve has a good track record. It will at the very least be watchable.

Drugs are the real world equivalent to the magical herbs n shit that will improve cultivation in xianxia but cripple you if you can't handle it. Prove me wrong.

The Colour of Magic, if you haven't already read some discworld. The Rincewind stuff is all pretty comfy.

How many marijuana's did you smoke to cripple your brain?

>smoking marijuana instead of injecting it directly into your eyeballs
ISHYGDDT

>eyeballs
Wrong balls m19-11.

I just bought The Dispossessed. I'm not correct in thinking some elements remind me a little of Arkady's Hard to be a God, correct? Also where the hell do I start with Terry Prachett? I bought two of his books today but I remember reading The Colour of Magic and not really liking it all that much but I'm willing to give him another chance. Pratchett books I have on hand:

The Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic
Making Money
Guards, Guards!
The Fifth Elephant

>disagree with /pol/
>like /pol/ anyway because they're unironically hillarious

What should I do?

It appears I do, if this is the one you mean.

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I think starting with Sir Gaiwan and the Green Knight would be the best place. Something about it feels accessible and entry level but it is a very good read and I've loved The Green Knight's entrance into the feast.

I'd say Small Gods is one of the best Discworld books to start with. It doesn't tie into any of the character series so you don't need prior knowledge or feel you have to read more to see what else happens to the characters, and it's well into where the books are good rather than okay. Colour of Magic and Light Fantastic are probably the worst books as they're just parody fantasy without much story.
But of those books, Guards, Guards! is the first Watch book and pretty decent, so I'd say that. Making Money and Fifth Elephant should both be perfectly coherent without reading earlier stuff, but you'll be lacking the prior character and setting development.
Also see

>woman innovates a lackluster genre
>becomes popular
>doesn’t make him a sandwich
>”She’s what’s wrong with SF&F”

I hope most of you are mature enough to see this for immaturity it is

Using the “/pol/ card” is shorthand for the type of person. The only place that bullshit is welcome.
Post about what you like not about what you’ve heard threatens your imagined and real status

And we all read sf&f for its predictable plausibility

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non-continental social science is a joke

Social-science-fiction is a genre

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That’s nice, thanks. Not Le Guin, thread or board related though.

If you're the real butterfly (which I doubt because she accidental her trip years ago and then left lit when everyone was impersonating her), then you are female. And if you are female on lit, you are some one of the stages of feminism.
So it fits perfectly with this thread's topic. Seeing as most female authors are feminist, or appeal to feminists through their character's decisions and traits, to get their book sales up.

Not marijuana. Cocaine and psychedelics.

You want to talk about feminism, start a thread on it. Le Guin isn’t feminism and certainly not divisive “third wave” liberal psyops feminism.

I never leave because people impersonate me. I “leave” on my own terms for my own reasons.

Read any Le Guin of women sff writers?

>pinata

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>what am I in for?
The INCOMPLETE & ABRIDGED chronicles of Conan

No Chronicles of Amber?

>About women, for women, by a woman
The maker of the chart was a woman? I thought it meant all the authors would be women.
I’ve read some of those. Nostalgia

No, I was thinking the same thing.

>cis
You don't need to invent new words for "normal and healthy".

>he's gay so he can't be evil
This is your brain on woman.

???
Yea, he was evil and happened to also be gay - what's the problem?

is le guin the only good token female scifi writer?

I read a short by James Tiptree jr. which was good

It's a poor design decision. That isn't the subtitle of the entire chart. It's just the first grouping.

Why does all the cover art for Warlord Chronicles make them look like they're knights when they're actually half naked welsh savages who consider themselves lucky to have a chain shirt?

Because Arthur and his cavalry are basically knights

Used to read Mccaffrey, but... she's not exactly good. Not terrible, I suppose, but I was in high school when it started seeming over-simplistic. Interesting world at least. Haven't read many others except Leguin and Shelley, both obviously good (haven't read later leguin, though), but this thread has me planning on getting mists of avalon.

Any novel similar to New Paris?

Summed up; Surrealism meets the Occult in 40s Paris.

Cheers.

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They're Cornish actually.

*dabs in Latin*

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Explain

They're from Cornwall.

Kek. What about the fact that the majority of the story takes place in Wales and the more important kingdoms are places like Powys and Gwent?

Leaving Cornwall doesn't result in having your Cornish card revoked user.

I have no problem with LeGuin or most female authors on the whole, I'm attacking you personally as a tripfag, not LeGuin

But why specifically Cornish? I assumed that the characters were generally "Britons" and that the story takes place prior to the strict delineation of Welsh/Cornish/Breton/Cumbric as separate cultures/languages.

Has anyone ever fell in love with or had a crush on a female character?

user, take a moment and check what site you’re posting about it. Think long and hard about it, and don’t post again until you can come up with better recommendation bait than this.

Pygmalion did

Dumnonia is the main kingdom isn't it?

I inexplicably want to fuck Weather from the Alastair Reynolds short story. I think it's the high-and-mighty attitude of the conjoiners, always going on about how cool it is to be one of them, "nobody has EVER changed their mind about joining us!", and shit. You just KNOW they don't fuck, ever, because they're weirdos like that. They probably get off to Einstein’s physics or something. To a conjoiner, fucking a non-enlightened plebeian would be an inherently degrading act, therefore, I want to fuck one of them. It's a bit like fucking an elf. Conjoiners are Sci-Fi elves, and must be fucked.

Right, but as I remember, the placement of the kingdom in the books does not coincide with real-life Dumnonia (or the historical distribution of the Dubmnonii, for that matter). If I remember correctly, it's placed in south-western England, while Cornwall proper was controlled by some other minor lord.

huh
Fuck you they're still Cornish

Ah. Like T*rks aren’t in Turkmenistan

I personally liked Heretics the most. It had the best premise to be honest and before that we haven't explored the Bene Geserit much at all (not to say the Bene Geserit always were the antagonist lite of the books beforehand). I always wanted to know and see what makes them tick and the inner workings of their society. Also Teg's awakening has been the most dramatic in any of the books. It had more impact, a better "ooph" so to speak even than Leto II. Oh, and it introduced the Honored Matress. Deadly sadist crazy adrenaline-junkie Bene Geserit on roids, basically.
All in all
Heretics>God Emperor>Dune>Messiah>Chapterhouse>Children
Not to say Children of Dune is bad, but parts of it are a slog and I had the most "trouble" finishing it (trouble as in I not feeling like continuing slogging through anymore)

/sffg/, im having problems balancing something. part of the conflict of my setting is that the MCs don't have a reliable source of food. there's no crops, no shops, and most wild animals and plants are inedible. I decided to include "mana" as a filling but unsatisfying food substitute, but the problem is mana is also the setting's main source of magic and is in extremely high demand to the point of violence by the sentient wildlife. I could add more edible nonsentient wildlife, but then there isn't really a food shortage

the way I see it I have two options: either I make the main characters gatherers or craftsmen who trade for a meager amount of mana, which is boring, or make the edible wildlife deadly, which makes it unlikely that the human cast, most of whom are under 15 could have survived.

what do you recommend?

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A GOT reboot based completely on the GRRM books would be something out of this world. Prove me wrong.

I don't have a horse in the game, user. They could be Cornish for all I care - I just thought I might have missed some obvious in-world evidence.

Are all low fantasy books edgy cunt shitstorm made by paranoid fucks or are there great exceptions?
If so, could you give an example?

You're wrong because GoT sucks, books or no

*teleports behind your terrible idea*

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James Tiptree jr and Joanna Russ are good
Also Gertrude Barrows Bennett/Francis Stevens is pretty underrated

did anyone else imagine soulcatcher as female(male)

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>start reading xianxia
>want to talk about xianxia
>nobody talks about chinese shit anymore
pull me through the gateway and abandon me, Yea Forums must be full of women

Hi with Mana. Mana is the source of magic, ok it's expensive, bit if it's also a source of food I'm case of need (which it seems the characters really need) then it becomes even more expensive and important, and in a pinch they have to chose, ok do I use Mana to defend myself with magic, and face hunger later, or do I try to talk my way out of this situation and preserve Mana?
It's also realistic. If Mana is so expensive, then it makes sense characters don't just use it every time and will only consume it when in danger or when facing starvation.

You could make parts the inedible wildlife tradeable. Eg, Tigers/wolves/chipmunks/whatever you think your cast can hunt aren't edible but their balls are an aphrodisiac which gives them trade value.

most of China Meiville's stuff is like that in one form or another. he's currently THE surrealist in the fantasy community

nein?

I imagined Soulcatcher as a skinnyfat manlet to be honest, because the author didn't make it clear enough that it's a woman. To be honest, women disguised as men never fucking work in real life, as the particularities are too aparent to anyone.
Also I indistinctly remember her being described as a guy but I might be wrong and I can't be arsed enough to go look it up. Either way it makes no fucking sense that a hot woman can so easily disguise herself as a guy, or fool everyone and make them think that she's a guy.

That's fantasy

that was the thought. my idea is that the human cast barely have enough mana to do magic. The MC is pretty important in that respect because both his mind and magic are wired for finding creative solutions to culinary problems, meaning that while he's useless in combat, he's able to slowly chip away at the food problem with his own wits.

of course, if there's no food problem, there's no need for a solution

It's just poorly written. Croaker directly describes her feminine characteristics - something about her tits and hips I think - but then goes on with his "Haha I just think of him as a man because it totally doesn't matter and it'd be weird to think of one of the Taken as a guy". Then he meets another of the Taken and calls her "she". I think it was Stormcaller, but who the fuck cares? Then he's told directly that the sex of the Taken is critically important because the females are traitors, and fails to even think about whether that might include Soulcatcher.

>Croaker when he finds Soulcatcher is a woman
>Imagine the smell haha amirite wouldn't that be weird haha?

Supposedly there was a specific feminist essay she read that caused her writing to go to shit.

I don't like C.J. Cherryh, but she's objectively pretty good.

We are women but that doesn't mean we don't read xianxia.

It's your setting. You can make it however you want. Just make edible wildlife exactly as rare as needed so that your characters don't starve to death while still posing a problem.

Why is it rare? Probably because the inedible wildlife finds it particularly tasty. So your characters have to compete with said wildlife for food.

I think she was described as a feminine body shape but no (or very small) breasts

Why was this so bad bros?

The 1st two books were so refreshing.

He went from anime straight to a shitty RPG

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Any fantasy or sci fi similar to this?

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The Bible. Except it's not fantasy. And you're going to Hell.

...

I don't know, I couldn't stomach more than a few pages. I basically dropped as soon as Kalladin revealed himself to his family and whatnot. It all seemed so uninteresting. I did not give a fuck at all man, you feel me?
God damn I want more Elantris and Mistborn in the Lord Ruler's time. Never liked Stormlight Archive, to be honest.

Mistborn should have ended with the 1st book.

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All his books are subpar

What should I read, mistborn or prince of nothing trilogy?

It's a shame, his concepts are really good.

Do you want anime girl or suffering and ntr?

They couldn’t be more different series.

>prince of nothing

Don't do this to yourself.

The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.

While he does succeeded in being different, reading him is painful.

I'm trying to read all the most well known authors in modern fantasy. Sanderson and Baker are next on my list.

>The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.

But that’s Joe Abercrombie

But I like that about Abercrombies books because he does it well.

At least he went to English Class.

>because he does it well
>laughing_girls.png

Out of the entire grim derp sub genre, Abercrombie is the only one that's enjoyable to read.

the more she drank the more she shat on his fat pink mast

You poor soul

How many books long is Cradle supposed to be, and at what book does shit start getting wacky?(i.e., past the exposition/'tutorial', growing up-part of the series)

Give me one good series please.

I've read every single shit the genre has to offer and nothing's good.

Everything you spam here is trash.

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Unknown. And after the second book he actually starts learning, if that’s what you mean.

I feel like I've heard the number 14.
Also you seem hilariously new to xianxia if you think that'll ever end. Learning the ropes and growing is the entirety of it, if you don't like that part you fucked up

You read all off masters of rome??

>read The Accursed Kings
>Realise GRRM ripped all of his (good) characters straight out of it

I meant the adolescent stage by 'growing up'.

Chronicles of Amber

There's never a long time skip. He's an adolescent in the latest book

He’s only gone from 16-18 agewise so far I think.

Alright. With the sporadic release schedule as well, I don't even see a reason to prioritize this series any time soon.

I read House of Suns and Revelation Space recently. That's some damn good stuff. It was especially good to read after loving A Fire Upon the Deep and then being very disappointed by the following books in that series. God damn, Children of the Sky was so fucking bad.

These sound right up my alley, thank you.

>sporadic release
Pretty sure will averages 6 months between cradle books so it's hardly sporadic. Wacky isn't the word I would use but things sort of ramp up around book 3 when lindon stops being as useless

Wow flavours user, you've gone through so many iterations. What about the edible stone thing you were working on. What about altering food on a molecular level to adjust it's taste?

Dumb frogposter

You mean gloktha and west. Everyone else was a chore.
>tfw you will never have a thicc brown beauty with no remaining family and pregnant with someone else's get look after you lovingly

Go down to Texas, you might have to compromise on the beautiful part

>The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.
What? He's the complete opposite in that he's doing everything that already has been done before; just a whole lot edgier and more boring.

Not in Klapistan, but will she love me and be faithful?

does this remain a slog all the way through
I want to know if it's worth sticking with or if I should drop it and read something else

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He's actually
>let's do everything that was done before, but let's be really honest about it
And so...
>murdering barbarians are really murdering barbarians, not some noble savage shit
>tortured old mages are really tortured, not jolly old gandalfesque fellers
>women are whores, but real whores, not le harsh past bullshit
>bad guys literally wear dead bodies as clothes and are proud about it
>lying manipulative bastard is really a lying manipulative bastard
>war is shit, but real shit not pretend. Like, Bakker specifically described the smell of everyone's anus multiple times

>Like, Bakker specifically described the smell of everyone's anus multiple times
So deep.

What happened to the MEGAS???

Every Tad Williams book is overly long, massively so. He's a good writer and there's lots to like in his books but holy fuck does he need a better editor.

Reading epic fantasy and complaining that it's a slog is like eating a shit sandwich and complaining it tastes terrible. I mean what did you expect?

fucking rip

Tiptree and Russ are both very good, though probably more enjoyable to read as a woman. Russ especially has a real lezsep vibe, which I am all for but isn't for everyone.

you gotta strap in and enjoy the comfy journey

It is long, but I found it enjoyable. While it does meander, there are many memorable events that I look back on and am grateful for sticking with it

That's what I tell my rape victims.

This way to reach the new Heinlein boys club

culture book 1 has changer---honestly I can't see anyone caring but I'm not that keyed into the SFF world

60 p/w, y'all retarded or something?