Season 3 just dropped on Netflix today...

>watching it after the fat alcoholic Freiskorps detective died.
Nah

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Lmao, cope

Tbh the degeneracy probably isn’t any more than you would see in modern America if prostitution were legal

Bruno was the only good part and the only interesting storyline died with him
The rest of the cast sucks balls, and the rest of the story was dogshit
Will probably still watch it in case they miraculously pull a few good minutes of television but I sincerely doubt it
Yet another historical show that seemed kino but ended up completely wasted potential...

It does feel odd watching it without Bruno, Charlotte and Rath can't really replicate that same rapport. I thought it was kind of dumb pushing Bruno's character the direction that they did

>I thought it was kind of dumb pushing Bruno's character the direction that they did
Yeah
To be fair most things after the first 4-5 episodes were kind of dumb

thx for the headsup homie, i watched the first 2 couple months ago

>Bruno was the only good part and the only interesting storyline died with him

Bruno was a major loss but there's plenty of interesting historical events before Hitler's rise to power that the series could cover

>The rest of the cast sucks balls, and the rest of the story was dogshit

false, Rath is a good character and Charlotte has her moments.

I'm not sure how you can judge it as wasted potential since I assume no one here has actually watched Season 3 yet

No it's crash landing on you

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ZU ASCHE

ZU STAUB

Nah I'm watching Ragnarok right now. Only show for white people so I'm giving it a shot

>there's plenty of interesting historical events before Hitler's rise to power that the series could cover
Yeah seeing how poor of a job they're doing with that so far I really dont understand how you can hope for that

>Rath is a good character
Druggie, no personality
>Charlotte has her moments.
Druggie, SJW mouthpiece

>SJW mouthpiece
Tbh i really can’t remember sjw shit in the show. Honestly the whole portrayal of poverty makes the unrest in Germany seem pretty sympathetic

Charlotte is an occasional prostitute but in the Weimar Republic it seemed to be that or starving, she has ambitions at least

Everything reeks of it, every single character that isn't a nice open minded social democrat is a bad guy.

If that was really the case who the fuck has money for cheap whores when everyone in the market for cheap whores is supposedly starving

Kek

>tfw I remembered that social Democrat moderate Republican minister got bombed by some teenager who fell for commie dick
>tfw the commie was actually a Nazi

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Ok, well being a social democrat in a place where things are worse than depression-era america doesn’t really seem as bad to me as what’s usually called sjw shit.
I haven’t seen it in a couple years but I remember it not being pozzed at all. Although yeah, i can’t remember any literal nazi heroes.
It sounds like the standards you’re applying must leave precious little watchable material; and what is worth watching probably has a very narrow scope in settings and characters

>watching earlier seasons alone
>roommate walks in right when completely naked Bruno sprawled languidly in Charlotte’s bed shows up

Imagine someone telling Bruno's old and chubby ass actor that he needed to sprawl as if being painted like a French girl for that shot

Ate commies
Ate nazi's
Luv da Kaiser
Luv whores
Simple as

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how does S3 compare to the first two seasons?

Leave your stupid fucking assumptions about my taste at home and try to remotely address what I'm talking a out instead of building imaginary scenarios
There is nothing wrong with being social-democrat. The only problem is that the show seems to have forgotten, or imo more likely wilfully ignores the fact that there is nothing wrong with NOT being one either. Sadly the show uses a manichaean representation of politics and morality and you can literally put every character in their good guy / bad guy camp without knowing anything more than their political allegiance or lack thereof. Prime example being Bruno, first introduced and developed as a nuanced conservative, brutal but with a softer side with his loved ones and a tragic poingnant backstory. And then for no reason all of this is thrown out of the window and he dies as a two dimensional sociopath. But you can check every single character in this shitshow and the further away they stay from politically correct light leftism, the more you cam be certain that they are BAD, as BAD as their ideology. Which is a shame because despite the very poor story and character writing this show has good actors and great scenery. And could have been great if the writers weren't a bunch of pozzed incompetent militants.

>watch Babylon Berlin
>then watch The Same Sky
>then watch Generation War
>its the same fucking actors because the German acting pool is so tiny that anyone worth a shit has either been in every production, played a Nazi or moved to America

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holy fuck I knew I'd seen Rath somewhere before

God what a handsome man though, I'm jealous

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His little brother was cuter no homo

And Deutschland 83 lol

Not him but my interpretation was the show is basically showing all of the equally dangerous but disparate forces that coalesced to eventually give rise to the Nazi Party and the devastation that came with it. A substantial part of the first two seasons was communist intrigue in Germany, which is an underappreciated part of history so I was glad to see it at all. A lot of people know about the rabble rousing right wing parties of post World War 1 Germany, but fewer know about the leftist forces and the revolutionaries like Rose Luxembourg who were just as dangerous.

When you have the unemployment rate of weimar Germany and people are starving to death you can hardly expect them to portray people striving to maintain the status quo positively.
But really your problem is your seeing highhanded SJW lecturing where there isn’t any. The writers aren’t pozzed, you’re just mad because they’re not making it political to suit your narrative specifically. Which also wouldn’t be giving a very accurate portrayal of Berlin in the 1920’s.

>nuanced conservative

Yeah we get it already, extremes bad, alright. There is nothing inherently wrong with this thesis (although its retardedly simplistic because it ignores the role moderate parties played in that rise of extremes by complacency and opportunism).
It becomes wrong when the show based its character writing on a morality scale that strictly corresponds with a political scale. Being a conservative or a liberal doesnt say shit about your value as a human being, but in this shows universe it's the exact opposite, like in any cheap political argument ever.

I dont have a narrative. I just point out the obivous fact that the character writing is lazy, unimaginative and borderline propagandist by making a false equivalency between morality and political orientation.
Which is completely fucking dishonest, and literally the worst possible way to make a remotely accurate portrayal if the time period they are trying to talk about.
Ignoring the ideological context in which this show is being made and considering it as remotely objective or historically accurate is fucking laughable. Open a book.

>the show based its character writing on a morality scale that strictly corresponds with a political scale

It’s set in the economic and social upheaval of Weimar Berlin.
That’s like watching something set in Washington DC in the 1850s and bitching about how “everything’s gotta be about slavery”

>old fat drunk German cop
Is there a comfier character archetype?

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I genuinely dont understand what you mean by this.

>remotely accurate portrayal if the time period they are trying to talk about
It does, it shows you a bunch of poor people in post-war Germany. The only characters you seem to like are rich ones who are much less representative of the actual population. Poor people in the 1920’s did shit like push communism.

he cute

kinda surprising he wasn't in Dark tb h

What the fuck are you even talking about

You want them to divorce the politics of the era from the show which is pointless. It’s what makes 1920s Berlin interesting unless you’re like, really into the costumes.

Ok apparently you think I have a problem with commies or some shit
I dont have any problem with that
I despair about the piss poor portrayal of the political climate of the time worsened by having a bunch of self-insert 21st social democrat as the gauge for only moral good guys in this shitshow.
Making everyone who strays away from this political stance varying degrees of bad guys ismt how you accurately portray the political climate of the Weimar Repulbic. I still dont understand what the fuck you're on about with slavery or how the fuck you concluded that I hate the poor but whatever.

My point is the exact opposite tho.

>Season 3 just dropped on Netflix
Season 3 dropped over the last two months on German Sky. You're late to the party.

When the first two seasons dropped on german sky or wherever we had to wait weeks, if not months for properly subtitled torrents
So yeah, Netlfix release it is, stay salty kraut

>we had to wait weeks, if not months for properly subtitled torrents
You did have to wait two months this time as well. Complain to Netflix about that. Someone should just do fansubs.

I was talking about the fansubs
There were some but we had to wait a while before they were made
And they were dogshit so I downloaded everything when it released on netflix

>by having a bunch of self-insert 21st social democrat as the gauge for only moral good guys in this shitshow.
That's just wrong. The social democrats that are shown don't propagate 21st century talking points but act very much like the equivalent of their times. And several historical figures that are shown are either non-social-democrat good guys (Stresemann) or social-democrats with questionable politics (Zörgiebel).
There appear to be good guys and bad guys among all fractions (like the communists), and even some of the nazis are painted as ambivalent characters. Politics overall serve more as a backdrop to the character drama anyway.

>And they were dogshit
Well, find a competent translator then. Or learn German yourself. It's not that difficult.

No it's not and yes they do. I use 21st century social democrat as an expression to describe the main cast, which are all 21st century mouthpieces and the further a character strays away from that the higher the chances that he is or will be BAD. The actual 1920s social democrats depicted are no exception to this rule.

I learnt german but I'm rusty. Netflix ends up making acceptable subs anyway and I end up happy with my clean torrent of a kinda mediocre serie, who gives a shit

Not as good honestly, felt a little weak with final revelations. Almost if the writers got lazy. Certain arcs didn't even play out (Katelbach, Behnke, and Erna). I still enjoyed the series though and love the sets, costumes, and period.

>which are all 21st century mouthpieces
You are the only one that seems to think this and this is Yea Forums, where even theme parks have agendas

Not an argument

>I use 21st century social democrat as an expression to describe the main cast
It doesn't apply to any of the main characters though. I'm not sure what you think 21st century social democracy is, but it's not what someone like Rath stands for. Of course, contemporary social democrats do share their basic values with those of the 1920s, at least within Germany. But their politics and social views are very different.

>I learnt german but I'm rusty.
This could be a good opportunity to remedy that. You wouldn't have to wait as long and could improve your language skills.

Rath isn’t even political iirc, he just wants to be a police officer

Rath is much like 21st century leftists, social democrats or whatever, an empty vessel that can be filled with whatever the writers want to push
He has no convictions whatsoever besides being a tolerant beatnik and the less of a tolerant beatnik a character is, the higher the chances for him to be some kind of two dimensional bad guy (or """morally grey"""", often amounting to being a complete dickhead and having one redeemable quality for 30 seconds of screentime)
The absolute refusal of having any kind of morally redeemable character outside of this pseudo political stance is the death of any sort of accurate or honest representation of the political landscape of the Weimar Republic
I really cant make my position any simpler

Well, he's not completely a-political, as he does have his values and definitely is against extremist movements and opposes national socialists. But I do agree that he's not explictily social democrat, even though he does surround himself with social democrats.

So the lead of the show suffers from an extremely common tendency of heroes to edge towards blandness for the sake of likability.
Not sure how this squares with him being a drug addict who’s fucking his sister in law while obviously wanting to fuck his secretary but ok.
Even if he is bland and not particularly decisive in his political views, that hardly makes him an instrument for leftist writers/producers to push their own narrative; which they really haven’t done.

>Rath is much like 21st century leftists, social democrats or whatever, an empty vessel that can be filled with whatever the writers want to push
Ah, I get where your confusion comes from. You neither understand his character nor what social democracy means.

>He has no convictions whatsoever
He's anti-war. He's pro-police. Anti-nationalist. Anti-communist. Anti-royalist. Pro-democratic. Pro-press. He's more or less egalitarian.

> the death of any sort of accurate or honest representation of the political landscape of the Weimar Republic
What do you even know about the "political landscape of the Weimar Republic"? You don't sound as if you ever even as much as read documents from that time.

Weimar Germany was pretty based

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>Not sure how this squares with him being a drug addict who’s fucking his sister in law while obviously wanting to fuck his secretary but ok
Yeah I too wonder how they could make this into something so lifeless and seemingly mundane But it is undoubtedly bland as fuck. He just doesnt seem to give a single fuck about any of this tbqh, dunno if it's the actor, the direction, the writing or all three but it doesnt work
Writers don't have a big hidden agenda to push or anything imo, their writing just reeks of SJW mouthpieces because of what I've spent god knows how many posts explaining. It's not propaganda, at least I shouldn't think so, but it is most definitely written from a simplistic 21st century-centric political perspective that completely failed to grasp the context, atmosphere and morality of the time period it tries to depict.

> u just dont get it muh semantics
Ok cool
>hes just anti-everything, hates every aspect of the society he lives and yearns for a vague 21st century-style open society
So he is a 21st century empty vessel for light leftist self-insert purposes, got it.
>u dont sound like u know anything
Ok cool

>So he is a 21st century empty vessel
Do you even want to argue in an honest fashion? Or are you just here to shitpost?

You got a lot of balls asking you that fucking shithead

I've spent I dont know how many posts explaining why I think that yes, he was written for self-insert purposes from a 21st century centric politically correct perspective.
You disagree? Fine.
But dont act like I dont take this seriously I get its simpler for your retarded ass to think that everyone who disagrees with your superior opinion is either trolling or retarded but try to elevate yourself a bit, stop making empty passive aggressive shitty retorts, write something meaningful or quite frankly, go fuck yourself.

>Rath is much like 21st century leftists, social democrats or whatever, an empty vessel
Lmaoooo
Plz user, tell us how you would have written him as an epic conservative King ready to Make Germany Great Again
You schizos see leftist boogeymen in everything even in a German production started before the 2016 election

You are literally mentally ill.
Political arguments 24/7 have literally rotten what was left of your brain damaged intellect.
Have fun strawmanning and arguing with your imaginary political enemy, I'm fucking done

>I've spent I dont know how many posts explaining
No, you just scream "empty vessel" and "leftist mouthpiece" and then pretend to understand German history when you don't even know what a social democrat is.

Ok go fuck yourself you illiterate mongoloid. Come back only if your autism allows you not to take everything literally without an once of nuance.

Huh? You’re the one that started claiming the show had self insert leftist mouthpieces and insisting they were attempting criticize things with 21st century standards. In reality they give a pretty unbiased view of all involved.

Unbiased my ass, its simplistic at best, dishonest at worst, a bit like reading your shitty fucking posts.

So is this just another "Nazis Bad" show, or do they go into what the Weimar is and it's flaws? Is the depression covered? It's an interesting period where little is talked about. Also wouldn't mind a book recommendation or two.

>Unbiased my ass
Then what do you propose 1920s' Berlin looked like? Come on, explain what the show got wrong.

It covers practically everything, and nazis don't play much of a role until late into the second season.

Iirc the book its based off of is alright; i read it a couple years ago though.
Nazis are pretty much on the periphery the first 2 seasons. It mainly features the monarchists who are disaffected after the war, the current Weimar government and some literal communists.
The depression is pretty big in the background since many of the main characters are poor, or at least working class.

Thanks, I'll check it out. Book recommendations?

>Book recommendations?
I haven't read the books it's based on. But from what I hear, they are different enough to still be worth a read adter seeing the show, if you're that into historical crime drama genre.

It's a police story with kinda stupid political conspiracies and an alright visual portrayal of the time period. It's not propaganda, it's just lackluster. Still kinda worth it because it's not like there is much on the period to watch. Berlin Alexanderplatz is a lot better imo.
Good books on the period are pretty much only academic, there is no acceptable pop history shit or Weimar for Dummies. There is some alright hard-boiled fiction tho, check out Philip Ker but domt treat it as a history book.

I have repeatedly explained my point. You refuse to understand it so I dont see what good rewording it again will do to your reading comprehension.

>I have repeatedly explained my point.
Yes. And as multiple people in here have stated, including me, your point makes no sense and makes you sound biased towards ultra-right politics.

Not an argument, but you knew it already I hope
If you can stop being hysterical about your favourite political bogeyman for 2 fucking seconds maybe you could understand what I am trying to say.

Babylon erli

Also I'm also the post right above, if you can concile me being a /pol/-tier fascist while I'm busy recommending Berlin Alexanderplatz and Bernie Gunther I would really fucking like to know how

I mean i too, have been assuming your just on a hare-trigger about politics ever since you started talking about SJW mouthpieces.
Even if it was bad writing (and it’s not), idk why you associate it here with “21st century self inserts” as if oversimplifying history or even bad writing itself is something new.
The alternative is, your just an idiot who literally has no idea what this era of Germany looked like

Yeah I get it already, you got triggered by the word SJW, get over it, I've literally explained all of this already

>I've literally explained all of this already
No, you really haven't. What do you even thing social democracy is?

Why do you refuse to understnad what the fuck I mean by this ffs...
WJO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY WHEN ITS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE FUCKING SUBJECT
Holy shit

>WJO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY
You're the one who's been going on and on about German social democracy in the 1920s and today, without even having the faintest idea what that means.

>HOW DARE YOU QUIZ ME ABOUT SEMANTICS AFTER ALL I DID WAS TRY AND SOUND SMART MY USING THOSE WORDS MYSELF AAAAAAJHHHHHH

[spoiled]Trump 2020[/spoiler]

>I refuse to read
I know
You have constantly repeated that for 30 minutes
I refuse to write for illiterates
Go back to /pol/

>it's a Thomas Kretschmann plays as a German officer movie

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Is this the thread where we act out 1920s German streetfighting interpreted as shitposting?

>watching first episode
>someone says something on the line of a "rootless international clique"

what timely kino

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Well, we already have that one ultra-conservative retard calling social democrats "communists" or something, so your comparison is not entirely baseless.

>charlotte's red head little sister after one season

holy fuck bros

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why is she a dog?

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>wasted potential
200% agreed
The guy who did it seemed to have little knowledge or interest about historic drama, other than using it for cringy af soap boxing.

You are fucking insane

Democracy is communism manifest

I hope they brought that redheaded maid back for a real punishment

Then what is democracy manifest?

yr mum lmao

A headlock and a penis groping

Karl Marx broke democracy.

It's no coincidence that within decades after his death, democratic countries broke into civil war to become fascist or communist. Communism combined with international elements will always be able to subvert a democratic system much more easily than a totalitarian government.

I suggest reading everything about the Spanish Civil War and the November Revolution in Germany.

it's happening again.

It's O’Sullivan’s Law but on the national scale

force

>Communism combined with international elements
What the hell are you even on about? Do you read what you write before you click "Submit"?

>roll a bit so your beer gut obscures your bratwurst
>yeah just like that
>now smoke a cigarette like you’re the hottest piece of ass in Berlin

Based and succulent-pilled

So, what do you guys think of Benno Fürmann's performance as Wendt?

Way too hammy, he felt like a cartoon character. Also comically evil, given that he is supposed to be a member of the conservative reaction.

I can't agree with the "cartoon character" part, but I agree that he's making it too obvious. He's no Bruno. But I do think the character is interesting, as he is one of the establishment career politians who thought they could play the national socialist movement to their own benefit.

Reference to Betty Boop?

>Netflix
No thanks. There's enough leftist brainwashing bombarding me already.

I smell satanists in this thread

Not made by Netflix, brainlet.
They bought it up for the US market like they buy up anime in Japan.

It’s kino
Btw anyone got a streaming link for episodes 11 and 12. I’ve got the subs but not the player with the sub options

based virtue signaling user

Certain streaming sites have had the show, or at least the beginning episodes for at least several weeks now.
I need to catch up on the end of the last season before starting this one.

>It's no coincidence that within decades after his death, democratic countries broke into civil war to become fascist or communist.
what countries even were democracies when he died?
this is one of the most retarded things I've ever read on Yea Forums. this week

Can I get a kind german user to translate?

Translate what? That's a way post with geographical names on it, showing which direction and how far they are from there, with an average woman sitting on top

It is cities and how far they are. You do not have these stones alongside roads in US?

I did not know it was cities I thought, well gee now is embarassing to say.

You thought they were like "rusty trombone" or "scandinavian surprise" didn't you? you dirty anonymous

>Can I get a kind german user to translate?
Here you go:

>Forestry-office Oakfield (0.5km)
>Devil's Lake (1.7km)
>Gravel pit JJ B5/B6 (1.0km)
>Sow Bay (4.2km)
>Green Forest Tower (5.1km)
>Shieldhorn (4.7km)
>Post Swamp (3.5km)
>Lovely's Bay (5.5km)

>no eng sub torrent

thanks for wasting your time on a fool like me user.
Nice names.