Was Vietnam really that bad?

Was Vietnam really that bad?

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No, it was pretty fun to be honest.

Experience may vary, just like most conflicts.

no, actually. movies always make it seem worse than any war ever ever but really it was probably more like second half of FMJ just replace le epic scary sniper scene with one guy getting hit, they all bunker down, get him out on medivac, then just artie strike that whole region and call it good.

Imagine if you just turned 18 and were handed a machine gun that always jammed and sent to a jungle that was 150 degrees so you could fight gook ninjas.

The Phoenix program was very brutal.

It was pretty much WW2 in the pacific all over again. Look up the battle of Okinawa, gooks are fucking insane and have no value of life.

Rambo was SF (Maybe SOG), you should try reading John Plasters books. They did insane suicidal shit pretty much every mission.

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>Was Vietnam really that bad?

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No, haven't you ever spoken to a vet? Most of them enjoyed the adventure and regard it as a high point in their lives.

Rambo is supposed to be a dude with ptsd from all the torture and shit he went through and his mistreatment at home. And Hollywood loves to capitalize on le horrors of war.

got the one with the buried american tank?

>Most of them enjoyed the adventure

Oh yeah it was action packed fun, which is why the vet suicide rate is astronomical.

Well, of course. They knew that they would never have that much fun again.

nah

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the lines were too fucking long

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Was OP really that retarded and autistic?

>which is why the vet suicide rate is astronomical.
It's really not

For some, yes. Depends on where you served, and what branch.
My uncle was a cook on a destroyer in Vietnam, said it was boring as fuck.
But then in the same family, I had a great uncle who served in the Pacific in WWII, and never spoke about it to anyone, he'd just shake his head, sadly. We know he lost his brother there, and he might have been in some of the big battles like shown on The Pacific.
And then we had a friend of the family who was a MASH surgeon in Vietnam, who said it was a hundred times worse than what they show in the movies.

So, the big fear and cause of PTSD in Vietnam especially was that you never got a break. The Viet Cong made sure nowhere was safe, at least for SF like Rambo that were far from friendly bases. The weather and insects and constant threat of mines and snipers made you feel like you never got a break, so when he comes home and just wants peace, that all goes to hell when he gets hassled by his own people.

What the fuck was his problem?

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reality-

>ay sarge, we found another gook hole
>okay, seal up the hole call it good.

>tfw you will never experience hanging out the side of a helicopter machine gunning poor rice farmers while listening to break on through to the other side

he fucks his brother

small town good ol boy chad vs spec ops green bere chad

everything would have been alright, but two chads collided that day and many were killed

unironically they drew first blood not him

he wasn't a good ol boy. he was a fucking cop.

His problem was that he was a drifter that had the potential for trouble and couldn't just accept the Sheriff's generous offer of a ride out of town.

>Land of the free
>Just kidding! You have to join the army and fight some farmers

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it was, but in the end the good guys won

Vietnam wasn't a real war, they spent most of their time banging lady boys and doing drugs

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Fuck off faggot. It's a free country.

>Godless communist savages that broke every rule of modern warfare
>good guys
Fuck off faggot. We shouldn't have been there, but those gooks were the true enemy.

The Virgin Korean War Vet vs. The Chad Veteran War Green Beret

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PTSD wasn't a thing until the 70's. Back in WW2 they called it "shell shock" and thought it would wear off. My grandpa fought in the Korean war and was shot in the head and had undiagnosed PTSD. They also had this thing during the Pacific Theater where soldiers were dropping like flies but were otherwise perfectly healthy and labelled "wounded", this was probably to cover up that they had reached their mental limit.

Well, sure, if you base everything you know about Vietnam from movies.

The freedom fries need to be drowned with blood red ketchup.

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO RESPECT OUR MADEUP RULES THAT DON'T APLY TO US MOMMYYYY I WANT MY MOMMYYYYYY.

IT AINT ME

*Vietnam War. Fuck.

Don't worry, we dropped enough dioxin on them to fuck their population even today

For gooks not for real people.

Sounds based

To be fair the US goverment has also chemmically fucked over it's own popullation so it's fair on both sides.

It’s less the sucicide rate for regular people.

My mother has a cousin who was short and ended up being a tunnel rat. He has some crazy stories and doesn't like enclosed spaces very much. He'll avoid elevators if he can.

My uncle was a Vietnam vet and my other uncle fought and lost his brother in a plane crash.

Kek Richard Ramirez learned everything from his cousin that participated in the Phoenix program. It was fucked.

nah boomers just want something to cry about

That image is post-war propaganda by the commies.

Yes and No. The aftermath from the engineered information is. As it’s a futures ordeal. Means America doesn’t exist but you sell it out as a war machine before it even begins. And already picked out a victim you haven’t even met. You gained an enemy you haven’t even seen nor have even touched with a pole.

>i will always hate the gooks

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It wasn’t as bad what we did to japs and Koreans and flips and Indians. We should been more harsh soft hearted homosexuals like your uncle ruined America.

>By 1969, B-52s were freed from bombing North Vietnam and started "carpet bombing" Củ Chi and the rest of the Iron Triangle. Ultimately it proved successful. Towards the end of the war, the tunnels were so heavily bombed that some portions actually caved in and other sections were exposed.

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There was a film about the staging about Vietnam war. Mommy and daddy children used to hoodwink incoming cadets in a gas chamber like room. Where they were knocked out and psychologically bombarded with information to the point of having them believe they actually went but in reality you were socially kidnapped.

>It wasn’t as bad what we did to japs
Invading Japan would have been a bloodbath, we saved lives by glassing a few cities

how do you ironically draw first blood?

Are you drunk?

From you home and given a new portfolios just so the higher ups could abuse you and use you at their leisure.

How did they invented those techniques ? What was the starting point, where did they read how to do it ?

>Hey you fuckin' hippy drifter, fuck off! (sarcasm)

Nope, It was funny and necesary, we stp communism and had fun with viet ladies, what is wrong with that?

Shut up commie.

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In the book Rambo gets shot in the face in the end.

It was every man for himself, the gooks were giving grenades to kids and pulling the pin and telling them we'd fuck them to death if they let us

Schizoposting or lyrics?

as he should

I prefer Rambo 3 myself

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>what do you mean playing a commie revolutionary and killing farmers has consequences!

the nam

All you get is a “pardon” and they explain they did it to encroach on Jesus and the Latterhood.

The trauma was about how vet never get respect, no about the war

You're retarded, every war has PTSD. EVERY WAR. We just don't talk about it until Vietnam because that's when we came up with the idea.

Ebin image however America actually killed way more gooks than they did them and only left because dumbass libtards wouldn't stop throwing hissy fits on home soil.

I was in nam and it was a fucking nightmare

As soon as I land on site my eardrums get blasted by “fortunate son” being screamed through the biggest speakers you’ve ever seen. I spent 2 weeks at base, then a giant naked guy literally atomitized a bunch of gooks, we then went to the city to party with the locals and guess what I hear, yea fortunate son again, only this time it’s in Vietnamese

>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST KILL MY BROTHERS

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you're retarded. It was a major issue in WWI. They just called it "shell shock"

Yes. But they didn't treat it. That's why there were so many stoners in vietnam, they were self medicating

He was a Korea veteran aka a pussie

WWI is completely ignored, and what soldiers experienced in the trenches was literal horrors. Go listen to Dan Carlin's podcasts about it.
Most wars are horrific. The Civil War was fucking brutal. The Spanish American War was brutal.

>collapsed Cu Chi

just like ur mom lol

Nope only domesticated faggots fat lived in the Industrial Age get PTSD. What do you expect out sending the sons of grocery clerks and accountants to do killing work? Back in the better times the warrior caste was one who went to war they didn’t get PSTD or anything like it.

Battlefield 1 was awesome.

You really suck at larping.

We used blacks on them so they weren’t really lying.

Having served in 'Nam I can tell you it was about a 6/10. They had some nice rides but the rollercoaster was out of service during my tour of duty.

Mad ptsd boomer detected. I hope your friends suffered before they died

>savages that broke every rule of modern warfare
>Drop chemicals and destroy the nature
>Kill kids and women (women are forgerable)

So the US was fighting 4 foot tall ants?

Damn

>In what US historians called the "greatest evacuation movement by sea in US military history" a 193-ship armada assembled at the port and evacuated not only the UN troops, but also their heavy equipment and roughly a third of the Korean refugees. One Victory ship, the SS Meredith Victory, evacuated 14,000 refugees by herself, despite being designed to carry only 12 passengers. The last UN unit left at 14:36 on 24 December, and the port was destroyed to deny its use to the Chinese. The PVA 27th Corps entered Hungnam on the morning of 25 December.

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Most warriors were dead before they got PTSD lol

THIS IS FWAMING DWAGON

An somehow these guys won the war against America, fucking baadass

>EVERY WAR
Every american war, soviets were chill about their war, maybe because they fougth to liberate people against fascism, not like americans

Who gives a fuck, in the end Korea still divided, President Trump make more solving Korea war than fucking vets

>soviets were chill about their war
read
>World War II losses of the Soviet Union from all related causes were about 27,000,000
Most soviets were dead before they could develop symptoms of PTSD

That's what happens when you have a billion gooks at your back treating your population of 30 million like cannon fodder

nigga medieval wars were a fucking joke most of the time

Literal ant people. Jesus christ I thought I was just shit posting

Rambo killed only one person in Last Blood, indirectly

It was a different time.

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>was throwing your life away for literally nothig really that bad?
idk, dying for the sake of shitty promises made to a foreign opposition figure or coming home to get morally shit on sounds more fun than my current life

>says he wasn't helped by Americans

your move, conspiracy theorists

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Neither, reality posting and you're too paused to see the difference.

there's very vague evidence US money actually made it into the hands of Bin Laden specifically, although it is common knowledge that WE DID fund the mujahedin, of which Bin Laden was a component.

>”m-muh K/D ratio”
Seething cope.

Medieval battles are just football hooliganism with swords and hammers

Most wars are really bad and the armchair generals who post on Yea Forums have no clue what they're talking about.

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>In 1989, satellites over northern Laos sighted a Walking K SERE signal, and the letters U-S-A stamped into the ground, and made with rice husks
>The Walking K was a highly classified evasion signal used by pilots in distress, seeking aerial rescue in the Vietnam War
>These satellite photos were handed to the DIA, but classified. It would be 4 more years until the site was investigated
>The investigators arrived to the town, the headquarters of the communist guerrilla group and a network of underground caves, and found nothing out of the ordinary
>The local farmer said his son liked how the letters USA looked, and the Walking K was "a natural formation" of rice husks
>This comes amid a 1990 report that David Hrdlicka, a Captain in the USAF, made an escape attempt in 1989 but was captured and returned to the tri-state area in 1990
>The same site was, according to the CIA, housing up to 30 Caucasian prisoners in a separate prison area
>In the early 1980s, Green Beret and eccentric special ops commander Bo Gritz launched three separate missions to the area, but claims that someone was leaking his movements to VOA Lao, who would announce the news preemptively, ruining chances of success
>Several other walking K's were seen in the same satellite photos, decades after Operation Homecoming; They were all explained as natural
>As of 2003, there was a dam built north of town, destroying any evidence of a POW camp

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Wars are all bad. Military people only realises it when they get old.

Find the documentary “Dear America: Letters home from Vietnam”...pretty good insight..

Except they did get PTSD. All the rituals and rules and traditions the warrior cultures of the world developed was to deal with the mental trauma. Herodotus himself wrote about greek soldiers hallucinating their enemies after battle or going apeshit. Mesopotamians wrote about seeing the ghosts of the people they killed coming back to them. Modern humans are the same humans from 5000 years ago, the only difference is that our chins are receding because we eat with spoons and forks.

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>rules of modern warfare

imagine cucking yourself with rules on how to engage in fucking up another nation. this is why britain lost their empire

This movie made me hate cops

It was worse than you can know.

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whats the name of the documentary? is it the filename?

Americans lmao

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Ken Burns

“Dear Bill,

Today is Feb. 13, 1984. I came to this black wall again to see and touch your name, William R. Stocks, and as I do I wonder if anyone ever stops to realize that next to your name, on this black wall, is your mother's heart. A heart broken 15 years ago today, when you lost your life in Vietnam.

They tell me the letters I write to you and leave here at this memorial are waking others up to the fact that there is still much pain left, after all these years, from the Vietnam War.

This I know. I would rather have had you for 21 years, and all the pain that goes with losing you, than never to have had you at all.

Mom”

>really that bad?
youtube.com/watch?v=k0Z6bju7DeE

if you kill yourself because the football guy didnt stand up to thumbs up America's theme song then that's your fuckin problem lmao

Yeah spot on, also retaking hills only to abandon them, then return to retake them as infinitum. It was pretty senseless and demoralizing.

Reminder that Boomers are the only American generation to lose a war after the invasion of Canada.

Every battle we fought we fucked the gooks in the ass. We'd tell the southern gooks "alright, you hold this line we need a break" and a week later the commies would take it and then some, then we'd swoop back in and glass the cities again. The south really was a giant pile of shit all the way up to the leadership, they didn't WANT to win. As soon as we left they didn't win a single battle and were in retreat all the way back to the capitol

Bin Laden also fought the mujahedin that the US sponsored.
If the Lion of Panshir had survived he wouldn't have time for this bullshit.

>CIA can't find him for 10 years
>CNN gets an interview with him immediately

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I was actually in vietnam ask me anything


Except questions about vietnam. That's classified

Nobody will reply to your post but that says it all
Same shit different day

Wandering /k/ommando here: Yes. Yes it was. See?

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>the fucking underarmor gloves

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Women and children bro?

SHOT THROUGH THE HEART
USA IS TO BLAME
YOU GIVE VIET CONG
A BAD NAME

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>SHOT THLU HARLT
>USA TU BRAME
>YU GIV VIET CUNG
>BAD NAEM

>mom found the scorpion tunnel

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I didn't understand that whole amusement park joke.

Comfy

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When the cop goes up to him and gives him shit for having an American flag on his jacket... That was way over the top right? Definitely wouldn't have happened back then right?

That's classified

>noooooo not my rulerinos!!

>jamming machinegun
Just admit you dont know shit about the vietnam war.

Yep. America. As Vietnam is a capitalist country today. I think my t-shirt is from Vietnam.

Just out of curiosity, how many times a day do you think about America? Must be 98% of your thought process.

>white fags dig tunnels to escape German prison camps: ingenious!
>based Viets dig tunnel network to combat white and negroid invaders: omg they're literally ant people!
LMAO

>in the end the good guys won
Yeah, funny how that works, huh?

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It depends on how long the lines were for the log ride that day.

>Man, I was in Tet. We had a bad-ass roller coaster, but… all we ever wanted was a log ride. We waited and we waited, but… they never built us one. I think- Danforth wanted the log ride more than anybody, but he… he had to settle with that lame dinosaur water adventure ride.
Truly hell in Earth

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>Akchually.bmp

Ugh

Yeah. Fuck that guy who doesn't know exactly which guns they used in Vietnam. He shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about the war.
I can't stop laughing.

Lol fucking cope. Like saying America lost the revolutionary war cause they didn't do the exact contrarian opposite of everything Britain wanted for the rest of time.

Compared to the world wars or even Korea it was a joke.
It was still war though and the jungle sucked. Lots of people saw (and did) some horrible things but none of them were marching into machine gun fire at the blow of a whistle.
Just search Vietnam vets on youtube and watch a few people telling their stories and develop your own sense of what happened

Imagine being this guy

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Based

he's a chad

Yeah sure he is big boy

>just sittin' here. thinkin' bout communism

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Man a carlos hathcock movie would be kino

“The jungle is a land which god—if he exists—has created in anger”

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Yeah the Americans got there ass beat pretty hard by farmers with sks.

Got more of a chuckle out of me than the usual tryhard crap that gets posted here

The US never lost a single major battle in Vietnam. Only lost the war because Ford was an ineffectual cuck.

>lost the war

Only part that matters. Everything else is excuses.

brutal

>The US never lost a single major battle
No, just lots of little minor battles which were enough to frighten the US public and politicians into running away meaning that you;
>lost the war

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30 warcrimes per day

Watch The Last Days of Vietnam. It became political poison and we split. We haven't "won" a war since WWII.

>We haven't "won" a war since WWII.
The Pacific theatre at least.

no, lots of asian pussy

How many Viet Nam vets does it take to change a lightbulb?

This aged beautifully, didn't it american pigs?

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>Scorpion Trap
Why yes, I do believe starved viets picked through the jungle gathering dozens of scorpions that they would try to maneuver into a mud hole in a cramped, dark tunnel to be released by an elaborate tripwire-activated door, in the hopes that the ones who hadn't already burrowed out would swarm an American instead of just sitting there in confusion for 10mins before scuttling off. How could you tell?

the m16 is a piece of shit

>"ugh, of COURSE I'm gonna kill him, duh"
>*draws sidearm*
>fires with one hand while making airquotes with the other

why didn't he just go to the next town?

Wasn't the guns, but the ammunition that was the problem.

Can we get a short recognition that this whole thread is confidently informing us how bad Vietnam was... The opinion of incels under 25 that is.

At the end of the last Rambo movie with the Mexicans there was a collage of scenes from all the previous Rambo movies.

Except this one.

>rape villagers
>drop millions of tons of chemicals
>unexploded clusterbombs and mines blowing people up to this day
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST DIG TRAPS AND HIDE IN THE JUNGLE YOU HAVE TO FIGHT HONORABLY AND LET US TURN YOUR COUNTRY INTO A SERVANT FOR ISRAEL!

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>What do we do with all these violent niggers and white trash?
>Send em to the front and tell them that they aren't returning until they give us 300 bodies.
>But there aren't any enemies in that area

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That's actually a map of Italy if you really look at it.

makes you wonder

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No, it was nonstop fun in the sun and theme park rides. These stories of a "brutal" Vietnam event are blasphemers to our lord and savior, Lockheed-Martin, and the holy GDP.

Penty of accounts from guys who said it was enoyable and worthwhile. Read LRRP Recondo by Larry Chambers.
Sounds awesome. Also are you referring to the M60 GPMG or the M16 Assault RIFLE? Because the pig was only as good as the user. M16s were shit at first but after the initial issues were recalled they fixed all the issues with them and issued cleaning kits which solved the problems.
>not knowing what fiearms were used in a war
>having an opinion
He shouldnt
An M16 is a rifle for a start, the other dude said machine gun. Referring to the M60 Im guessing.

Call me misguided but I would have assumed a bunch of old timer cops in a small town would have had nothing but praise for a war veteran. Makes no sense.

Poor amerimutts :'(

who should play the next rambo? female only of course

It would have been a nightmare for South Vietnamese. Americans got off easy

most soldiers who went to vietnam never fired a bullet. don't know if picking tunnel rat or special forces stories or whatever is representative.

they didn't have the common enemy of trannies and niggers.

a war is a bunch of people being miserable wishing they were somewhere else.

The mujahideen did literally nothing wrong

biggest bad ass, damn I want to watch that documentary again

It was like a year long summer vacation.

Militarily, the Americans and the ARVN slaughtered the Viet Cong and NVA. Just look at the Tet offensive, the only time the North Vietnamese launched a large concerted campaign against the south, they got their nose bloodied, with the VC losing upwards of half their number attacking places like Hue.

Dilate Ivan.

Yeah man, My Lai was just a psyop with commie crisis actors.

No

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Poor John, he fought for his country, returned home and was treated like a criminal for it.

Free country.

Watch the Ken Burns series- Vietnam and see for yourself.

One of his daughters of course

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Damn she cute

Rambo was a creepy loner walking around with a giant knife. Cop was friendly enough in the beginning but Rambo just had to start acting like a trouble making bitch rather than accept a free ride to the next town.

>walking around with a giant knife
Second amendment

Except they smashed the 72 spring offensive by the north and where doing well until the US completely cut their supplies in 73/4 leaving the majority of their equipment unusable for lack of fuel and spare parts, also did not help that they where forced to accept the north being allowed to keep tens of thousands of troops in the south in the Paris peace treaty by the Americans as they where threatened with the complete withdrawal of aid if they did not accept the "deal" which to no ones surprise was promptly reneged upon a year later causing the collapse of the RVN.

Rules for warfare only apply to other whites

Americans raped, pillaged and burnt alive buncha tree monkeys and it was all for nothing

>perhaps he’s wondering why’d you break a mans neck before shooting him

no

t. 71 year old zoomer

And the vague at best "search and destroy" missions that resulted in some gooks and G.I's dying, G.I's caling it a day, leaving and the gooks just returning to their place and fortifying it again. Again and again.

>be american tunnel rat in Vietnam
>get shot
>get punjied
>get spiked
>get snaked
>get drowned
>get garroted
Gooks really got creative in killing your ass back then.

>OH N...

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Dont be autistic
The general public use the term machine gun for pretty much any full auto weapon, be in assault rifle, LMG or mounted

>>We began attacking the enemy day and night

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Do you have any clue how many regular civilians were murdered cold blood by american troops?
Literally going into a village and just killing everyone. men, women, kids, animals...
From the few cases that were exposed and the hard attempt to cover it up and destroy the whisteblowers the actual amount of these cases that were not exposed is probably staggering.

>be american racist
>go to foreign country to fight against commies
>hate the people there, call the racist names, dehumanize them, destroy their way of life
>nobody watching or cares what you do
>commit atrocities cause your commanders were just as racist and blood thirsty and there was no oversight
>anybody who talked about it was degraded, his life was at risk, he was demoted and persecuted by military and government authorities

Imagine hundreds of psychos like this haunting you 24/7 inna putrid jungle. Fuck that life

>we
Didn't see you there.

>your hut village bobmed completely from the air
by state of the art war machines
>your life is over, your family is dead
>fight foreign invaders
>one of these cold blooded killers calls you a psycho

They did lose, that's why they all have to speak English and use cutlery, instead of eating raw fish with their hands and speaking navaho.

>thinks the US won ww2
>thinks the US fought in ww2

He didn't want to set a precedent of allowing homeless vagrants to hang out in his town

the fact that you only eve refer to amendments shows that the original document was a pile of
>game is good because patch 2 added a newloading screen

> video game analogies

that's all it's worth

You sound autistic because he was clearly referencing Watchmen. The joke went over your head because you’re a fuckig retard

they expected one of them in the wreckage, brother

Now American woman are all fucked by Niggers karma

No one here can answer that most likely. But I'd always guess for the worse, especially regarding war.

American desperado eludes to this.
>soldier for the mafia.
>get arrested for murder.
>recruited to vietnam instead.
>spend most of the time skinning civvies for intel.

>which is why the vet suicide rate is astronomical.
This isn’t because of trauma, it’s because civvie life is garbage and fake. The camaraderie and brotherhood can’t be replicated

>What the fuck was his problem?

IIRC the sheriff was in the Korean war. You can see some of his war stuff in his office. He hated Vietnam vets because he felt their war had overshadowed his. He felt they were a bunch of whiny babies compared to what he had been involved with. Korea is often a forgotten war.

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Yeah, that never happened in any other war before 'nam. Truly a gamechanger.

>there's very vague evidence US money actually
That’s because it wasn’t US money, it was illicit and untraceable CIA funds made through the drug trade

I didn't grow up during the vietnam era, but the idea that a police chief would just walk up to a veteran of any war and start trash talking them and giving them a hard time was just too unbelievable for me. Was the stigma against Vietnam vets REALLY that bad? Why? It's not like the vast majority of soldiers even agree on the upper echelons of politics behind a war. They just go where they're ordered. I would have thought a police chief of all people would hold a veteran in higher regard.

Also Rambo was a war hero. Not simply a veteran.

And battle fatigue in WWII

Oh yeah better times when people died age 15 from a cold

Literally nothing happened but cringy PR and lil donny dun goofed by chad Kim who keeps testing missiles

sorta, there were a couple of things that made it miserable for the soldiers.

1) Army rules for combat stress == shell shock. See the army didn't understand shell shock yet, and thought you could resolve it by "vacationing" the soldiers by giving them frequent breaks away from combat. Turns out this is hilariously exactly how you cause shell shock. The emotional whiplash from tense jungle fighting followed within 24 hours of a weekend in Thailand or Hong Kong or Japan, then after fucking their brains out, going right back into jungle warfare 24 hours later was directly responsible for the insanely high rates of shell shock in Vietnam vets. The soldiers with the lowest rate of shell shock were in the USMC, reason? no out of theater vacations, they weren't depressurizing then getting back into the shit over and over again.

2) Drug Use / Draft - This was a war almost universally hated by america's young (though the public at large was mostly for it during the 60's) most of the US Army troops fighting it were drafted and against their will. Worse, drug use became rampant in the barracks as discipline broke down (see part 1 for some of the reasons for this). Many us army combat troops, high on drugs and angry on being in country and stressed turned to war crimes, insubordination and drugs to relieve their stress. Tell me how well adjusted those men would be coming home?

3) CivilWar / Jungle Fighting - This was a civil war which is bad because it's literally brother against brother. Combine this with the dense jungles and you couldn't tell who was a friend or foe. Imagine going to battle to protect a town with half the town behind you aiming a riffle at your back. That will fuck you up.

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All wars are terrible but America is only culturally allowed to depict Vietnam as bad because they're butthurt about losing.

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I think it was that the police chief was a dickhead bully in general and was going hard on Rambo because he was an outsider drifter, not for being a vet, who police would probably not have a problem with since a lot of cops were vets.

Well the largest military machine getting their shit pushed in by some rice farmers with sticks is a pretty bad result for the good ol US of A, wouldn’t you agree?

>The US never lost a single major battle in Vietnam.

And yet, after almost two decades of winning, you guys lost the war. Honestly, that's more shameful than straight up losing because the enemy was superior.

But Clinton also ran away. Can't you just admit the war was retarded and your country is a dump regardless of which billionaire pedophile rules over you?

So, after North Vietnam took over, did the country become a puppet communist state and a cancer on the region spreading communism all over southeast asia, as the US feared it was going to?

>people actually believe baby boomers were crawling through tunnels and scoring kills with a knife
Lol

The police chief was a dick to Rambo because he was a dirty, penniless vagrant with nowhere to stay, and he didn't want that in hist perfect little town.

I really hate when 16 year olds excited about their first voice crack start talking about shit. Like, literally anything.

Based laotians torturing murderous USAF pilots.

my grandfather was killed when an IED device detonated while he was riding on top of an M60 and flipped it on its side crushing him to death

They rounded up the entire former south vietnamese regime and put them in camps which was pretty based.

Why didn't they just throw grenades into the entrance holes or just fill it with gas?

My favorite is the vietnamese sniper who specialized in wounding new guys, dragging them to within earshot of where the rest of their squad was, and castrating them.

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Is that a yes or a no?

Being a comprador is a big fucking gamble.

If you ever want to co-operate with an occupying force make sure to sell some weapons to the resistance on the side so if they ever come to power you can claim to have been secretly working for them.

Oppressive heat, leeches/spiders/snakes, and spooks behind every jungle bush. It's war, what do you expect?

This is Gloria Vanderbilt and her sons, 'Anderson Cooper', and his brother Carter Vanderbilt. Carter 'killed himself' in '88. The freaks didn't take over the asylum, they built it.

Bernie, Socialist Party interloper, knocked up his first wife Deborah Shilling to draft dodge, and dumped her as soon as it was convenient thereafter. There's your Russian collusion.

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No. It was worse.

>Bernie, Socialist Party interloper, knocked up his first wife Deborah Shilling to draft dodge, and dumped her as soon as it was convenient thereafter. There's your Russian collusion.
Absolutely fucking based. Also bernie was loud against Vietnam. trump and Bush are dickless chickenhawks who were pro war but didn't want to be deployed there.

the cop was also a vet, he was pissed about this new generation of snowflakes coming home looking like bums with their long hair and fucking hippy music crying all over the place after losing the goddamn war

>it is okay that Trump dodged the war because Bernie did the same

What kind of argument is that? Both are cowards for avoiding their duty.

>waah racism bad
Why?

Meanwhile in real life, Viets are as racist towards Chinese, Indians, and Laos/Cambodians (who they treat like Nazis treated Jews because they are considered traitor people and rightful Viet clay) as Amerisharts were towards them and more.

Based bootlicker

Yes.

At least Bernie was against it and stuck to it fucking triggered whataboutist

Could Rambo be made today? Most cops are vets and society sucks their dicks constantly.

that's war you onions boy
do you think slants wouldn't do the same if they were on american soil?

Holy shit. retard boomers really post here.

you weren't there with him you pinko cunt

Are you that kid I knew in highschool that wore surplus fatigues to class but works at the hardware store now?

>that buried tank

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Dude, go look up "medieval weapons" on google images, and imagine being hit by any of them. Just think about it for a minute. If you saw someone's head stove in with a poleaxe, fuck man, you're getting ptsd, no matter how much of a "warrior" you are.

I know no one will believe me but I was actually in Vietnam on the ground fighting, we stacked gooks 5ft high and used them for sandbags

Came here for vietnam discussion, saw southpark references to make an argument. Reddit owns this board.

>sending young men to die in a war that their government never wanted to win
imagine defending the vietnam war. also trump was never going to get drafted. his number wasn't called

It destroyed the American Dream, the positivity in American people, fastened the decline in America society. Serial Killers were starting to show up. Etc... It was part of the decline, the television also declined and degenerated the society.. We can talk about it and talk. Overally the great depression started and its still to this day.

Yea Forums has become the worst board bc of reddit.

the arsenal was p insane and some maps like Synai were some greatest experiences I've had with the whole franchise, but the whole gameplay loop was dumbed-down trash with shit like bullet pivoting and infinite repairs for vehicles

unbelievably based

>grenades
Simply throwing them in at the entrances would have only made the openings cave in, which the Vietcong could just dig back out
>gas
They did. Numerous times. Gooks got crafty and made dead ends, vents, and sealed doors to keep the teargas from spreading. There are lots of pictures of tunnel rats in gas masks because they were flushing the tunnels.