How would you save the comic industry?

make Steven Universe The Comic just like how MHA is Steven Universe The Manga

It's obviously a supply problem. What NEW comics are even posted here that aren't attached to a 40-80 year old series? If people want new stories, make them. It's that simple. Manga doesn't have this problem because they just do it.

By stop making this thread bitch nigger

Defend yourself

give every Bait poster of Yea Forums a raise.

I always wanted to make a Steven Universe comic/graphic novel inspired by oldschool manga where the authors just kept the basic outline and character designs, and just refit the story into something they wanted it to be with no regard for the original. Like Fatal Fury mangas.

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> •Hiring creators who meet deadlines.
um sweetie, thats called crunch culture, and its bad.

ok user, tell me some popular non super hero western comics.
Only thing I can think of is some web comics and maybe newpaper comics.

Saga
SIKTC
The Walking Dead

Inb4 that guy you respond to makes weak excuses why they aren't

Less politics, more freedom in form and style, the freedom to pick more themes and create new characters and stories instead of fucking cannibalizing the dead corpse of an IP over and over.

It's kind of a moot point since it's not like the non-capeshit comics are particularly popular either.
The only comics that are popular are the ones aimed at children, your Dog Man or Raina Telgemeier or Kid's Club stuff.

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>more freedom in form and style, the freedom to pick more themes and create new characters and stories instead of fucking cannibalizing the dead corpse of an IP over and over.
Bruh
You make it obvious you only think Marvel and DC exist

Well that's what the image conveys, I am doing it in relation to that, independent comic books exist.

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ban superhero comics

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Yes you fail to acknowledge the fact that other comic book companies that aren't DC or Marvel or selling more than them

Ban usury

The reality is that if superhero comics no longer existed tomorrow, you'd still have just as many badly-written comics and people still won't buy them. Getting rid of something that sort of sells in favor of propping up stuff that sells even less rarely works out.

The only thing you can do is make the comics you want to read, whether getting like-minded people to do the writing and/or drawing or getting the skills neccesary to do it, and also learning how to sell your comic.

Bring back sexiness in interiors.
Mention I’m the credits what trades were used to inspire the movie.
Go more than 5 trades before renumbering.

Just make something good/interesting.
How hard is that?

Pretty hard

>DUUHHUHHHH MANGANEEMU
>my hero academia
Yep, this is going into my kill shonenfags folder.

Nowadays I can only find comics at comic stores full of fat and smelly retards. There was a time pre 2010 that you can find comics at 7/11 and Wal-Mart. Shit was great.

That doesn't guarantee sales

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>How would you save the comic industry?

Split it up. Your disingenuous image forgets the real reason Manga and Anime are doing well: That booth on the left encompasses at least a hundred companies and maybe thousands of different writers, animators, and storytellers

The one on the right encompasses two companies with a few dozen people of note, and all of them are creatively bankrupt.

Truth is: comics are failing because capeshit should have failed years ago. It's alive on pure momentum and would have failed if it appeared into existence in the 50's in its current form.

It's hard move because they're creatively bankrupt or need a scapegoat

The reality is that you need the book to have an appealing style, compelling storyline/characters, something that stands out, commitment to seeing the book through (as in putting stuff out on a regular basis), and finding a way to keep your stuff in print and available for people to read.

That's a lot of work to do. If you don't have one of those things you have to do other things to make up for it. It's just easier to sit around and complain about how superhero comics are dominating the industry instead of figuring out practical solutions.

in b4 >reddit spacing

fucking this, Shueisha might be the biggest manga publisher but they don't come even close to have the market dominance the DC/Marvel duopoly has in the comic market

Honestly this, I could find issues of Spiderman in my local KMart, the book section of the store would have a section for comics when it still had a book section.
Now? I haven't seen anything that's not Superman Coloring Book for Kids anywhere in a long time. Which makes sense: who the fuck would stock their store with Superman yearly reboot #60?

This, and their 'flood the shelves' policy is the opposite of what people want. Both sides too embroiled in a war for space on shelves that they killed their industry to win it.

Add more nigger and queers. Both in the comics themselves and in the writers/artists rooms.
Also more pages should be devoted to ads.

You forgot the most important thing: marketing.
Comics in Japan aren't competing in a market where they HAVE to be on DC/Marvel/Disney's good side to even see the shelf of a store. Everyone else is. So naturally they don't get top billing in the few places they can sell their comics to the masses.
Meanwhile, Manga has conventions where they encourage people who are literally one-man operations to come out and compete with billion dollar franchises. They have collections that take no-name artists and put them up for grabs in books that specifically thrive on them competing with one another.
The west really doesn't have anything like this, and if it did: the big two would find a way to kill it.

Make more characters gay homosexuals like Jon Kent and Tim Drake.

I don’t want to save it. They have taken dumps on my favorite characters. Now I just want to watch them burn.

I want the comic industry to be destroyed so I can rebuild it myself.

As a person who's into anime/manga, you're like 6 years behind lol. The comic industry needs to embrace change and not define themselves with the same old capeshit. The age of Superheroes, Comic Cons, and in general Comics, are over. Rather than the MCU or DCEU success translating into new fans or a boost in comics (like Invincible), they unironically grew a second if not more shittier fanbase who don't really give a shit about the OG source material.

1. Embrace Change of weird shit and more anime shit
It's like rinse and repeat when it comes to the American Comic Industry, but look at Anime or Manga? We have a story about a pirate sailing the word in search of mystical treasure and fruits, another about cannibalism, hell we even fucking have one about a guy who turns into a girl when he comes in contact with water. There's a level of diversity in the genre that's been developed enough to suit a whole group of people's needs.

2. Get better adaptations
Want more comic fans? Make better adaptations to inspire people to check the source material. Invincible did this great, they gave a reason for people to go buy like 5 fucking omnibuses based on a single season of the show. Apart from Amber, the show was able to give people a glimpse into the bigger more overall story.

3. This may be the hardest, but down with the Big 2.
There should be room for other successful comic companies like Image (even though it's like a mega group of companies) to be given the spotlight.

4. Politics and SJW-ing
Need I explain this point? Shit like gay Superman, Bi Robin, I'm Not Starfire, Trans Amazonian, etc... are just going to piss of the remaining genuine fans of your company in favor of fair-weather fans. Sure you got a boost in media rep. for having a bi superman or gay robin, but that doesn't translate into nothing permanent cause all the people there were in it for the headlines.

>posting the fatso who quit the internet while EVS still active

ban all w*men and h*m*sexuals

I think what manga generally has over Marvel and DC are three things:

>Accessibility, companies have apps where you can read all of their series both old and ongoing in decent quality. Most book stores or libraries have entire shelves filled with volumes of manga. You can even find them in grocery stores or supermarkets. Plus, they’re stories which have a beginning and an ending. Superhero comics by the big two last forever, and there’s a risk of that character or that world being ruined by incompetent writers. Unlike manga, which is usually controlled by ONE specific creator (barring editors).

>Variety, you want romance? Action? Drama? Chances are, there’s a series that will fulfill a niche you’re searching for. Even creatives within the comic industry hate how much capeshit has filled the market.

>Promotion. While they’re getting close to the right direction with the MCU helping casuals get into comics, anime however are more direct adaptations which utilize 2D animation and take hiatuses between seasons. Thus, forcing fans who were hooked by it to read the manga to know how the story continues. It’s exactly like what Invincible did, and that got everyone to check out the comic.

Jon Kent was a the definitive proof that media exposition based on controversy does not translate on long term sales. The first issue had high sales but it plummeted afterwards because people that buy shit to own the chuds are not exactly a loyal readerbase

Try to find out what practices are allowing for manga to be more attractive to audiences, and emulate them.
Also, this. Although, something I'd love to see more of would be comics or webcomics in which superpowers are present, but not the rest of the usual aspects of cape.

The big 2 don't have enough power to kill things anymore (unless you count the people trying to blackmail or blacklist or whatever). The only thing that actually keeps indies and others back, are the people themselves.

The other observation I have is that some people in the industry don't seem to know whether they want to actually reach a large audience or play at being an "artist" who won't compromise on their work.

>because people that buy shit to own the chuds

And it wasn't even those people buying the book; most of the purchases were from speculators, similar to what happened with Naomi.

I can't think of a bigger honor than being insulted by a guy hated by virtually everyone that knows about his existence.

Here's a better question. Instead of asking how to "fix the industry", why not look into why manga is doing so great in the first place? Has anybody done that?

oh yeah, the classic "let's release a ton of 1# issues and see their market value crashing through the ceilling in a few years or less". NFT sellers have more moral integrity than that

Explicitly racist heroes

>That booth on the left encompasses at least a hundred companies
That's not entirely true, at least when it comes to America.
In America there are 6 major manga publishers (Viz, Kodansha, Yen Press, Dark Horse, Seven Seas, and Square Enix), and maybe an additional 7 or 8 that pull in at least $100k a year from the manga they sell/license.
It's just that they all publish a large variety of series (with the exception of Dark Horse).
For example, Kodansha publishes Attack on Titan which is a pretty popular shonen series, Ase to Sekken, which is basically smell fetish smut, Alita Battle Angel, which is edgy, violent, and full of over-the-top gore, and Cardcaptor Sakura, which is a (for the most part) lighthearted manga about magical girls primarily aimed at tween girls and also adult men who are into cunny.
Publishers in America just need more variety and more stories that are actually good or interesting to more than just the same 3 or 4 demographics.

That's not even easy for Manga and Anime

then things would cycle back to golden age and every thing would eventually end up the same

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Those are the only ones that matter in the longrun
>other comic book companies that aren't DC or Marvel or selling more than them
Oh i'm sorry i didn't realise that i was dealing with one of ''that'' kind of posters when i initially chose to respond so how about this: why don't you actually name those WESTERN companies and their respective ORIGINAL IP titles that currently outsell the top ones from the big two (with the sales figures attached or go fuck yourself).

Normal Mode:No weebshit.
i don't want to hear about IDW's take on popular oogly eyed japcrap by Sushi Mitsubishi that sold a gajilion copies to the slant-eyed weebcels over in the land of rape and suicides they translated and brought to the west and publish under their logo.

I'll wait..

Asians are just superior to western trash

if I had to point a single aspect of manga that makes the whole difference is the fact that most of them are creator owned while licensed manga are the exception. With the comic industry it's the opposite.

>with the MCU helping casuals get into comics,
The MCU has been around for over a decade. The movies keep doing what they do while comic sales and even comic attention by the non-interested crowd just keep going down. There is no affect of the MCU on comics at all. The people seeing the movies don't care about them. This is of course not the case with anime adaptations

Image and Dark Horse both are outselling the big two
Along side the big one which is scholastic

The sad part is that they will focus on the temporary success as justifications to continue
>most of the purchases were from speculators, similar to what happened with Naomi.
Exactly this. Most non comic fans saw this in headlines:
>Superman comes out gay
>DC fans cry in outrage
>Understandably assumes crazy homophobia in comic fans? I'll check out to see the madness
Then you have shit like Thought Slime's take: youtube.com/watch?v=jq49o-zaYUk&t=571s&ab_channel=ThoughtSlime

Yes, Warren Ellis was doing that back in the 00s. Of course, he and his acolytes took the wrong lesson by focusing too much on decompression.

Before that people were incorporating stuff they liked from manga. You can see Scott McCloud do this on Zot!, you can see Frank Miller do this on Ronin and DKR and other stuff, you can see Liefeld and other Image artists doing speedlines a lot, you can see Joe Madureira go more anime-influenced and he became a popular artist during the mid/late 90s before he stopped producing regular work.

Manga has nothing to do with that and it's still kicking DC and Marvel's asses. Some of you guys are very retarded and myopic.

>Manga Format

As in, Big ass cheap phonebook likes? that doesnt work here.

A lot of popular manga are just released online (for free) as webcomics these days. Spy X Family, Kaijuu no 8, Dandadan, One Punch Man are some best-selling manga series that have their newest episodes released online for free.

god that's the most rancid comment section I have ever seen in a long time, don't post that crap here ever again

>Image and Dark Horse both are outselling the big two
Not really.
Even in the book channel DC outsells both Image and Dark Horse.

And with which titles they brought from overseas are they doing that again?