If kids can experience it, it's okay for kid's cartoons to talk about it. We've had episodes of kid's shows that have talked about homelessness, addiction, mental disabilities, death, guns in school, and child abuse, and we should have more of them without relying on "very special episodes" or one-off characters that cease to exist outside of that episode, also called "uncle aesops". If kids know that something in their lives is not normal, then they can come forward for help.
Even Sesame Street has brought up at least four of those, and that's a show for preschoolers.
Do you actively want kids to experience those things? Do you think they're common and normal every day problems?
Lincoln Gonzalez
>Do you actively want kids to experience those things? No, but they need to know about it. >Do you think they're common and normal every day problems? From some quick google searches... >20% of the 500,000+ homeless people in America are children. >10% of children live with a parent or guardian with an addiction problem. >1/6 children have a diagnosed developmental or mental disorder. >1/20 children have lost one or both parents by 15. >In 2018, there were 392 individual incidents reported by the media involving guns in school. >16% of children have been subject to sexual abuse or sexual harassment. >A report of child abuse is made on average every ten seconds in the US
This means on average, in a classroom of 20 kids, two live with parents with addiction problems, three have a disorder, one has lost a parent, and three of them have been victims of a sex-related offense. There's a good chance these overlap too. For these kids, these ARE a common and everyday problem, and society's refusal to talk about it only makes it worse. It's not a complicated subject, it's not a difficult subject, and it's not a sensitive subject. It's a subject people refuse to discuss and that needs to change 20 years ago.
The first step to solving a problem is realizing it exists.
I don't know if you're one of the 16% kids who have been sexually abused but that doesn't mean you need to be a bitch on Yea Forums as well.
Matthew Morales
>In 2018, there were 392 individual incidents reported by the media involving guns in school. Correction; In the year prior there was about 3200, after that they stopped counting them, so there are no official stats.
Lincoln Sullivan
Wait. Lets flip this. What should kids cartoons NOT talk about then in your opinion?
Ryder Gutierrez
Easy, Candleja
Cameron Green
Damn. 1/20 kids lost at least one parent? Thats fucked... Pic related
This is true but again it's not a social issue. Even if you're not taught how to use a toilet, there's a point where your inability to use one is either a mental health problem or simply refusal.
Daniel Watson
>"So I stood up and told that there teachin lady that what goes on between me and my here daughter ain't none of her god-dang business."
POV: this user when his daughter learns that being made to clean his dick in the bathtub is an example of child molestation.
The fact you immediately latch onto groomers and sexual abuse when none of that is mentioned in the OP, along with your feeble attempt to shut down discussion, proves that you are a sick fuck.
Kids can experience rape and molestation. Should we show rape and molestation in kids shows? How would we show rape and molestation to kids so that they can easily identify it? You obviously can't just say "Rape" or "Molestation" and use vague descriptions. Rape and molestation come in a variety of packages. Should we show uncensored hard adult penises in kids shows so that kids know what an adult penis looks like and thus know when to avoid it? Should we show a kid being forced to perform a blowjob? Or being told to get naked and having their pictures taken? Do we show a kid being sodomized or raped vaginally? Past the toddler years, cartoons are used as an escape from reality not as an avenue of education. Let kids escape from reality, from being raped, molested, abused, etc, and let trained professionals teach the kids what is and isn't good behavior from a healthy responsible adult.
Robert Brown
>How would we show rape and molestation to kids so that they can easily identify it? Well the marxists in this thread have already told us that they don't believe that "age appropriate" is a thing that actually exists, so just show children rape porn, because that totally isn't grooming.
John Bailey
>Should we show rape and molestation in kids shows? The OP says "talk about it", not "show", remember in the 90s there was a bunch of comics and cartoons talking about physical boundaries? The ones it's relevant to know what it's talking about. youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0zTFo3X5g
Besides, victims of abuse, neglect, and failures of society outnumber LGBT kids by a landslide, and that's not getting into the overlap.
Levi Gray
Have you ever considered that by contributing to covering up reality to children, you're doing more to harm them than anything else?
Daniel Ortiz
I believe the way in which different things are addressed depends on the age of the child. I also believe that you rape children.
Joseph Morales
There are no Marxists any more, they're as extinct as the Etruscans. Communism is only an empty name attached to countries which blend authoritarianism and capitalism.
Hunter Robinson
That's why everyone pitches in to help the kids learn, especially when they're not at the point of no return.
Brody Stewart
Nothing secret about school, believe me. Little kids repeat everything they see and hear (Teachers learn a LOT more about the parents than they want to,)
Nolan Hughes
You seem to be wrong about almost everything. I hope you don't drive a car, you'd be a menace,.
Jack Rogers
It's the parent's job, sure, but if a kid takes a shit in the middle of the supermarket that's kinda everyone's problem.
I worked in a supermarket, any time an accident like that happened the kid was saying "Mom I need to go" for the past 10 minutes. If I wasn't paid "Not paid enough to give a fuck"/hour I would be grabbing their trolleys and saying "Ma'am, take your kid to the toilet NOW". Bathroom access is a human right, and it's one of the more common daily human right violations children suffer.
Jackson Murphy
So what you're saying is you would've gotten in the way of the parent's right to let their kid shit in the supermarket?
It's even a worse health hazard in daycare and kindergarten, where other children are waiting for their turn,
Jace Turner
Individual rights are bounded where they hurt others,. That's pretty basic.
Aiden Thomas
>somewhere in the world some kid got raped in the ass so hard he died >therefore its ok for mass-consumed media aimed at kids to depict assrapemurder If you HAD a child, you sure as fuck wouldn't want some stranger to walk up to them and start talking about rape, or anything remotely related to that.
So how exactly would you guys write an episode covering one of these topics without explicitly showing anything?
Jordan Watson
>Individual rights are bounded where they hurt others lol.
Juan Fisher
Just do The only people saying "read excerpts from Chuck Tingle's Pounded in the Butt series to kindergarteners" are just fear mongering since if they used actual examples they sound retarded for making a big deal out of fucking nothing.
You can get the message across without too many details, enough for kids to realize what's going on if they have/will encounter it. See this Spider-Man page for example (sorry for ant edition), and the Sonic Sez about sexual harassment further up the page. Several cartoons have used metaphors for drugs or even fictional drugs to cover addiction.
Things like death and such shouldn't be handled in such ways though, the finality and inevitability of it should be laid bare. Like the OP said, at least four of those (there's a homeless puppet, one with an addict mother, an autistic muppet, and the death of Mr. Hooper was written into the show) were on a show for preschoolers.
Shitting on the floor is a biohazard, your rights certainly don't apply there
Why should anyone respect another's "right" to cause a public accident? It's not like they're respecting their kid or the people around them.
Nathaniel Peterson
Of course shitting on the floor is a biohazard, That's why I said individual rights end when they harm others,.
Joshua Young
Absolutely, the far right is exaggerating everything to get an excuse to attack gays (and minorities and anyone else they don't like)
Dylan Lewis
Disney again, their movie OLD YELLER sure taught a lot of little kids about death (and responsibilty) in a good way. BAMBI had the mother killed by hunters and (unlike comics) she didn't miraculously return at the end of the movie).
Jonathan Collins
"He's SEETHING. He can't COPE. He's been KEKED by a BASED CHAD, I'm so proud,."
Juan Anderson
>Why should anyone respect another's "right" to cause a public accident? The American fetishization of sociopathy disguised as freedom and rugged individualism.
Ayden Sullivan
Pic related, the "secret sex talks with other people's children" the right is scared of.
Are we really not going to mention the Gargoyles episode about gun safety? Because that seems like something we could use these days.
Evan James
That movie is 65 years old, it would surprise me if anyone my age saw it. I've known people younger than me to not know Mel Blanc.
Jordan Adams
you sure spend a lot of time defending grooming children
Connor Edwards
God yes, with the original dialog and blood. People need a wake-up call. Even I, a fucking britbong, can recite the rules of gun safety and the closest thing I own to a firearm is a tiny catapult on my desk.
Do you think that videos like this would be a good way of presenting forms of abuse, but throughout multiple episodes of the show is and it's a constant thing that the chosen character(s) go through? Would you prefer it to be done in children's shows like pic related? The younger the demographic the easier it is to make children aware of predators and dangerous situations. Putting characters in these scenarios and showing how you should react would help children identify their situation
>What this is gonna do is just send the message it's normal like what happened with divorce and single parents in cartoons. Exactly. The big doomsday scenario that this is all centered around is the idea that someone somewhere might tell a kid "gays and trans people exist and that's okay." no more, no less. I don't even have a dog in this fight but the sheer amount of vitriol and headcanons over something so innocuous makes it easy to see which side is in the wrong.
Logan Lopez
That's a question better left to social workers, police, and child psychologists, but inclusion in mainstream media would likely go a long way. Videos like this can be easily missed or forgotten, but a TV show with millions of eyes on it is not only more widespread, but it's also more difficult for abusers to hide it from their victims.
Landon Watson
That's an oversimplification and you know it. I refuse to endorse pedos corrupting the future generation.